Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:59:49PM +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfull dependency solver. Using APT in DEB-based distributions, I can easilly create some kind of problem, APT is

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 03:52:56PM +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: OK. Maybe i just supposed APT to do various things I'm used to expect from other package managements. Now i undrstand, reading the point of view of APT ?cotributor?, this piece of software is not for me. Could you

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement (PROBLEM SOLVED)

2009-02-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:42:31AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote: * kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz [2009-02-09 21:12]: This means my thoughts were correct, because Aptittude mantainers are trying to implement it. (as I request) This answer I found satisfies me. They

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement (PROBLEM SOLVED)

2009-02-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 09 février 2009 à 20:56 +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz a écrit : This paper claims, that experimental branch of Aptitude include a prototype of mentioned powerfull solver (same as zypper or smart). (page 15): http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/model.pdf If you are talking about the

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 09 février 2009 à 19:39 +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz a écrit : This Debian aproach is great for servers, but not usefull for Desktops, where bleeding edge software and mixed repositories could be expected. Bullshit. On desktops as well as on servers, bleeding edge software will

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 09 février 2009 à 23:11 +0100, Tilo Schwarz a écrit : I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfulldependency solver. As a user I never had any problem using aptitude. It lets you cycle quickly through its

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:37:29PM -0800, Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org was heard to say: I made early on was not to fetishize arbitrary optimality definitions, because you can end up chasing phantoms that way. Optimal solutions are not necessarily best. They are good for academic

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-10 Thread Tilo Schwarz
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:27:03 +0100, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le lundi 09 février 2009 à 23:11 +0100, Tilo Schwarz a écrit : I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfulldependency solver. As a user I never

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/09/2009 05:59 AM, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfull dependency solver. Using APT in DEB-based distributions, I can easilly create some kind of problem, APT is unable to solve.

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hello, please wrap your mails properly in future. APT development list CC'ed. kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfull dependency solver. Using APT in DEB-based distributions, I can

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread kc.ubuntu.cz
      __ Od: jackyf.de...@gmail.com Komu: kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, APT Development Team Datum: 09.02.2009 14:20 Předmět: Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: # If you look at the comparison i posted above, you can se that APT is worse than Urpmi and SMART - which was the best dependency solver in that comparison. Zypper mentioned above, is a ittle bit better than #smart: # #If you look at users' feelings,

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread kc.ubuntu.cz
__ Od: jackyf.de...@gmail.com Komu: kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, de...@lists.debian.org Datum: 09.02.2009 18:15 Předmět: Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement kc.ubuntu

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: ... I don't feel comfortable to answer on your mails. Use '' for quoting, don't include mail headers into answers, and wrap the text, really. Why I have to spend my time to parse your mails while you don't have a time even to configure your mail client? Or wait

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread kc.ubuntu.cz
Sorry. I'm not familiar with mailing list, and it take me a lot of time event to find out, how to response. Apologise myself. I did not know. I'm not used to. have a nice day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: __ Od: jackyf.de...@gmail.com Komu: kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, de...@lists.debian.org Datum: 09.02.2009 18:15 Předmět: Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement (PROBLEM SOLVED)

2009-02-09 Thread kc.ubuntu.cz
I don't know, If you know the correct answer, but I was right. I found some paper with additional explanation of the dependency solver problem in Debian. This paper claims, that experimental branch of Aptitude include a prototype of mentioned powerfull solver (same as zypper or smart). (page

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Eugene V. Lyubimkin may or may not have written... kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: ... [note: reformatted] I don't feel comfortable to answer on your mails. Use '' for quoting, don't include mail headers into answers, and wrap the text, really. Why I have to spend my time to

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Eugene V. Lyubimkin may or may not have written... kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: ... [note: reformatted] I don't feel comfortable to answer on your mails. Use '' for quoting, don't include mail headers into answers, and wrap the text, really. Why I have

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Tilo Schwarz
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:59:49 +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfulldependency solver. As a user I never had any problem using aptitude. It lets you cycle quickly through its

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Gustavo Noronha
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 15:31 +0200, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfull dependency solver. Using APT in DEB-based distributions, I can easilly create some

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:59:49PM +0100, kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz was heard to say: I would like to ask you a little bit controversal question. As a user I miss a package manager based on powerfull dependency solver. Using APT in DEB-based distributions, I can easilly create some kind of

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement (PROBLEM SOLVED)

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Wuertele
* kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz [2009-02-09 21:12]: This means my thoughts were correct, because Aptittude mantainers are trying to implement it. (as I request) This answer I found satisfies me. They don't implement it on your request. yours Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,