Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-29 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:21:14AM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:47:37AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > The module do not seem to do a great job in Buster, at least. > [..] > > With the jitterentropy_rng kernel module, entropy still drain out. > > This was

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-29 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:47:37AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > The module do not seem to do a great job in Buster, at least. [..] > With the jitterentropy_rng kernel module, entropy still drain out. > This was without typing on the keyboard and not moving the mouse. After reading the

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wolfgang Schweer] > 5.6.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.6.14-1 (2020-05-23) GNU/Linux (unstable): > enabled as a module (jitterentropy_rng). > > Unchanged at least since Buster (4.19.x). Right. The module do not seem to do a great job in Buster, at least. I tried with and without haveged active,

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-29 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 08:44:55AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Wolfgang Schweer] > > Maybe this one:: > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/crypto/jitterentropy.c > > Perhaps. I notice it has been around since 2015, and was updated in > 2019 with adjusted algoritms. Is it

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wolfgang Schweer] > Maybe this one:: > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/crypto/jitterentropy.c Perhaps. I notice it has been around since 2015, and was updated in 2019 with adjusted algoritms. Is it enabled and activated in the kernel by default recently? Note, the test done by

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Wolfgang Schweer [200528 18:56]: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:25:25PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:24:22PM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > The topic came up on IRC, and for me it is about removing bloat from > > > ("default") installs. > > d-i still uses

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:17:37PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I tried searching the web for information about the added entropy > sources in the kernel, but came up short Maybe this one:: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/crypto/jitterentropy.c Wolfgang signature.asc

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Chris Hofstaedtler] > your package currently Recommends: haveged. On modern kernels, so > whatever will ship in bulleye, the kernel will provide enough entropy, > so there should be no need for haveged, except in exceptional > situations. This sound very good indeed. Where can I read more about

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:25:25PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:24:22PM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > The topic came up on IRC, and for me it is about removing bloat from > > ("default") installs. d-i still uses haveged-udeb, see:

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:24:22PM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > The topic came up on IRC, and for me it is about removing bloat from > ("default") installs. cool, thanks. > I have also heard about concerns of the quality of haveged > randomness, but personally did not investigate. ack.

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [200528 15:15]: > Hi, > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:06:49PM +, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > your package currently Recommends: haveged. On modern kernels, so > > whatever will ship in bulleye, the kernel will provide enough entropy, > > so there should be no need for

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:06:49PM +, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > your package currently Recommends: haveged. On modern kernels, so > whatever will ship in bulleye, the kernel will provide enough entropy, > so there should be no need for haveged, except in exceptional > situations. > >

Bug#961729: education-networked-common: Please remove Recommends: haveged

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Package: education-networked-common Version: 2.11.18 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, your package currently Recommends: haveged. On modern kernels, so whatever will ship in bulleye, the kernel will provide enough entropy, so there should be no need for haveged, except in exceptional