Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns

2018-06-29 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 11:44 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
[...]
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Adam D. Barratt
>  wrote:
> 
> > >  what is the reason why that package is not moving forward?
> > 
> > I assume you're referring to the dpkg upload that's in proposed-
> > updates
> > waiting for the point release in two weeks time?
> 
>  i don't know: i'm an outsider who doesn't have the information in
> short-term memory, which is why i cc'd the debian-riscv team as they
> have current facts and knowledge foremost in their minds.  which is
> why i included them.

It would have been wiser to do so *before* stating that nothing was
happening as if it were a fact.

> > I'm also getting very tired of the repeated vilification of SRM
> > over
> > this, and if there were any doubt can assure you that it is not
> > increasing at least my inclination to spend my already limited free
> > time on Debian activity.
> 
>  ah.  so what you're saying is, you could really do with some extra
> help?

I don't think that's ever been in dispute for basically any core team
in Debian.

That doesn't change the fact that the atmosphere around the change in
question has made me feel very uncomfortable and unenthused about SRM
work. (I realise that this is somewhat of a self-feeding energy
monster.)

Regards,

Adam



Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns

2018-06-29 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 10:20 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
[...]
>  debian-riscv has been repeatedly asking for a single zero-impact
> line
> to be included in *one* file in *one* dpkg-related package which
> would
> allow riscv to stop being a NMU architecture and become part of
> debian/unstable (and quickly beyond), for at least six months, now.
> cc'ing the debian-riscv list because they will know the details about
> this.  it's really quite ridiculous that a single one-line change
> having absolutely no effect on any other architecture whatsover is
> not
> being actioned and is holding debian-riscv back because of that.
> 
>  what is the reason why that package is not moving forward?

I assume you're referring to the dpkg upload that's in proposed-updates 
waiting for the point release in two weeks time? Please check your
facts before ranting, particularly with such a wide cross-posting.

Also, ttbomk, the dpkg change landing in stable is not likely to
magically lead to the architecture being added to unstable - a decision
which is not the release team's to make or block. Again, please ensure
you've actually done your research.

I'm also getting very tired of the repeated vilification of SRM over
this, and if there were any doubt can assure you that it is not
increasing at least my inclination to spend my already limited free
time on Debian activity.

Regards,

Adam



Re: Bug#763278: gcc 4.9 wheezy-pu?

2014-10-09 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 23:01 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 Note that the window for the next stable update is closing in about a
 week, so there isn't a lot of time.

Actually, the /point release/ is in about a week. The advertised window
for getting updates in to it closes this weekend.

Regards,

Adam


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Bug#724865: gcc-4.8 also affected

2013-10-31 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 19:48 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 then you do use outdated packages:
 
   package: src:gcc-4.8
   version: 4.8.1-3
 
 the recent version is 4.8.2-1.

4.8.1-3 is in unstable's Sources index, but as Extra-Source-Only: yes; I
guess Johannes's tools need updating to handle that.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Accepted gcc-defaults 1.118 (source all amd64)

2012-05-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 14.05.2012 09:10, Matthias Klose wrote:

On 13.05.2012 21:58, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On 13.05.2012 18:42, Matthias Klose wrote:

On 13.05.2012 21:22, Julien Cristau wrote:

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 18:58:42 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
which ones? are there any reports which are not tagged? I went 
through

the list of Lucas' new batch and tagged the appropriate ones.

There were again some more in the last couple days.  They should 
be tagged

AFAIK.


I am only aware of these usertags:
debian...@lists.debian.org / qa-ftbfs-20120508
do you known about a new rebuild?


From a trivial look the set from #672397 onwards on the usertagged 
bug list were

all filed in the past three days.


looking at 98 and 99 this doesn't seem to be a set.


They're a set in that they appear after each other on the usertagged 
bug list.  I didn't say they had sequential bug numbers, but possibly 
could have chosen a better description.


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Accepted gcc-defaults 1.118 (source all amd64)

2012-05-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 13.05.2012 20:22, Julien Cristau wrote:

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 18:58:42 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:


On 13.05.2012 17:45, Philipp Kern wrote:
 This doesn't mean that we shouldn't have gcc-4.7 in wheezy as an 
alternative,
 just that it is highly problematic as the default at this point of 
the release

 cycle.  +1 on the revert from me, sadly.

in summary, these are getting addressed faster than these are 
submitted. Please

lets wait until the end of June if to make this decision or not.


Hell no.  End of June is when we'll be frozen.  Not when we'll keep
messing around with big toolchain changes.


Ack.  June's been announced as the freeze target since, well, June.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Accepted gcc-defaults 1.118 (source all amd64)

2012-05-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 13.05.2012 18:42, Matthias Klose wrote:

On 13.05.2012 21:22, Julien Cristau wrote:

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 18:58:42 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
which ones? are there any reports which are not tagged? I went 
through

the list of Lucas' new batch and tagged the appropriate ones.

There were again some more in the last couple days.  They should be 
tagged

AFAIK.


I am only aware of these usertags:
debian...@lists.debian.org / qa-ftbfs-20120508
do you known about a new rebuild?


From a trivial look the set from #672397 onwards on the usertagged bug 
list were all filed in the past three days.  There may well be others 
which either haven't been diagnosed as gcc-4.7 issues yet or haven't 
been tagged.


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Processed: blocks mksh on armel; also 2 pkgs on armhf which is a release arch now

2011-11-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 23:27 +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
  severity 633479 serious
 Bug #633479 [gcc-4.6] ICE: gcc-4.6: ICE on armel+armhf with mksh, on armhf 
 with oss4-4.2-build2004-1
 Severity set to 'serious' from 'important'

For reference, armhf is *not* yet a release architecture.  It's not even
in testing, which would be a minimal requirement.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Processed: blocks mksh on armel; also 2 pkgs on armhf which is a release arch now

2011-11-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
[and now with a CC to the bug *sigh*]

On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 23:27 +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
 Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
 
  severity 633479 serious
 Bug #633479 [gcc-4.6] ICE: gcc-4.6: ICE on armel+armhf with mksh, on armhf 
 with oss4-4.2-build2004-1
 Severity set to 'serious' from 'important'

For reference, armhf is not yet a release architecture.  It's not even
in testing, which would be a minimal requirement.

Regards,

Adam


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Bug#649307: gnat-4.6: FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64 (gengtype: Internal error: abort in get_output_file_with_visibility, at gengtype.c:1998)

2011-11-20 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 15:29 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 On 11/19/2011 11:50 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 23:32:48 +0100, Ludovic Brenta wrote:
  
  retitle 649307 FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64: gengtype: Internal error: abort in 
  get_output_file_with_visibility, at gengtype.c:1998
  reassign 649307 src:gcc-4.6
  severity 649307 important
  forcemerge 649307 637236
  thanks
 
  Julien and everyone else, please stop filing FTBFS bugs automatically
  against gcc-4.6 or gnat-4.6.

They're not automatic, the package *is* failing to build, and that issue
should be documented.

  We monitor the buildds and are aware of
  FTBFS, so these bugs are not useful for us and only take away some of
  our precious time for triaging.  Thanks.

Failures of other packages to build can't be blocked against oh, the
maintainers will know about it.  Nor is anyone triaging said failures
going to automatically be aware that you know about the issue, what
progress (if any) has made towards resolving it, whether it's an issue
with GC{C,J} itself or a kernel or glibc issue, ...

In this particular case, it appears that the bug is actually in gcc and
that the gnat failure is a side-effect?  In that case, the bug should be
marked as affecting the gnat package, so it shows up in gnat's bug list.

I see Julien already added the affects, but if that had been done when
the bug was reassigned then it would have been visible in gnat-4.6's bug
list before a duplicate was filed and I suspect at least some of the
animosity in this exchange could have been avoided.

  They may not be useful to you bug they're useful to everyone else.  Why
  are you downgrading this bug?
 
 It's a buildd issue, which somebody needs to investigate.

The log of #637236, which Julien's report got merged with, implies that
someone *is* and has been investigating.

As a general note, marking what are otherwise RC bugs as important so
that the package can migrate isn't really appropriate, at least not
without discussion with the release team (at which point we can e.g.
tell britney to ignore the problems for a particular version).

 The all port lights
 on green attitude by the release team (not only for kfreebsd) doesn't help 
 with
 this either.

If you have specific concerns about the viability of specific ports,
then raise them appropriately (and preferably in a constructive manner).
Making snide remarks and then complaining that nobody's listening to the
issues isn't helpful.

Regards,

Adam




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Bug#633754: gcj-4.6: FTBFS on m68k with segfault

2011-07-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt

severity 633754 important
thanks

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:30:17 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

Source: gcj-4.6
Version: 4.6.1-2
Severity: serious
Justification: fails to build from source

Building (bootstrapping) gcj-4.6 fails after 3/4 days at:

[...]

(gcj-4.6 was never built on m68k before, but gcj-4.4 worked.)


This isn't RC. It's not a regression, and m68k isn't a release 
architecture in any case.


Regards,

Adam



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Bug#631817: libgcc1: missing link libgccc_s.so - libgcc_s.so.1

2011-06-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 17:07 +0200, Ludovic Brenta wrote:
 Further research indicates that the version of gcc-4.6 currently in
 
 testing is not yet multiarch-aware; the first version with multiarch was
 
 4.6.0-12; the latest version is 4.6.0-14.  It should have migrated to
 
 testing five days ago but hasn't.  The reasons are unclear;

How are they unclear?  The output generated by britney and displayed by
the PTS, grep-excuses, etc. indicates precisely why the package hadn't
migrated.

 the PTS says
 
 the package is out of date on powerpc but the build succeeded on
 
 2011-06-18.

Indeed.  However, the result of that build was never uploaded, so the
package was still out-of-date in the archive.

That's somewhat irrelevant now, however, as a new version of gcc-4.6
(4.6.1-1) was uploaded earlier today, so the migration cycle has been
reset.

 Could someone please allow 4.6.0-14 to migrate?

Commenting in bug reports is not a means of contacting the Release
Team...

Regards,

Adam




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Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures

2011-04-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 02:34 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within the 
 next
 two weeks before more transitions start.  GCC-4.5 is already used as the 
 default
 compiler for almost any other distribution, so there shouldn't be many 
 surprises
 on at least the common architectures.  About 50% of the build failures exposed
 by GCC-4.5 are fixed [1].  I didn't see issues on amd64 and i386, armel
 (although optimized for a different processor) and powerpc (some object files
 linked into shared libs had to be built as pic).

It looks like kfreebsd-* also made the switch and there's been a request
to switch for mips and mipsel.

Looking through the bug list for src:gcc-4.5, none of the open issues
seem to be specific to the remaining release architectures which haven't
switched yet - i.e. ia64, s390 and sparc.  Are you aware of any issues
which would preclude switching the default on those architectures?  Has
there been any discussion with the port maintainers regarding switching?

Regards,

Adam


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Bug#622095: gccgo: uninstallable on armel

2011-04-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Package: gccgo
Version: 4:4.6.0-3
Severity: serious

Hi,

gccgo is uninstallable on armel as it depends on gccgo-4.6, which is
only built on amd64 and i386.

Regards,

Adam




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Re: GMP transition: 4.3.2 to 5.0.1?

2011-02-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 04:48 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 01:39:39PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  Have any of the reverse-dependencies been test-built against the new
  version?  Does the move to 5.0.1 imply any source changes being required
  for reverse-dependencies, or just rebuilds?  (I say just as there
  appear to be around 350 r-dependencies, including at least five from the
  GCC suite).
 
 I haven't done any test-builds.  Since the -dev package changed name,
 I presume that just rebuild won't work; rather, the sources have
 to edit their build-deps.

Out of interest, why is the -dev package versioned?

[...]
 Matthias also responded requesting:

 I see that both the runtime library and the -dev packages have
 different package names. But to be able to still use gmp3 for
 existing GCC versions, please change the source name too, such
 that gmp3 is still available in unstable after the upload of gmp5.
 
 Shall I go ahead and upload the source gmp5?  Then both gmp versions
 will co-exist in the repository and packages can choose to move to
 gmp5 at their leisure.

After some further investigation, it looks like this isn't feasible.
Neither gmp 4.3.2 nor 5.0.1 version their symbols and with both versions
in the archive simultaneously and co-installable, there's a reasonable
risk of a process ending up with both libraries loaded in to its address
space, which is generally not a good idea.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: GMP transition: 4.3.2 to 5.0.1?

2011-02-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 22:15 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 On 24.02.2011 21:15, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  [...]
  Matthias also responded requesting:
 
   I see that both the runtime library and the -dev packages have
   different package names. But to be able to still use gmp3 for
   existing GCC versions, please change the source name too, such
   that gmp3 is still available in unstable after the upload of gmp5.
 
  Shall I go ahead and upload the source gmp5?  Then both gmp versions
  will co-exist in the repository and packages can choose to move to
  gmp5 at their leisure.
 
  After some further investigation, it looks like this isn't feasible.
  Neither gmp 4.3.2 nor 5.0.1 version their symbols and with both versions
  in the archive simultaneously and co-installable, there's a reasonable
  risk of a process ending up with both libraries loaded in to its address
  space, which is generally not a good idea.
 
 did you check, that all gcc versions do build with the new version on all 
 architectures, and that the gcc testsuite doesn't show regressions with the 
 new 
 version? will gcc continue to work, while re-building mpfr and mpclib with 
 the 
 new gmp?

Steve's mail to this thread less than a week ago said he hadn't done any
test rebuilds at all; I suspect the chances that he's gone on to build
and test multiple GCC versions on multiple architectures in the meantime
are small.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: GMP transition: 4.3.2 to 5.0.1?

2011-02-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 12:39 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 Now that squeeze is out, I'd like to move from GMP 4 to GMP 5.  The
 latter was released upstream about a year ago and the gmp lists
 aren't buzzing with outrageous bugs, so it appears stable enough.

Looking at the package names of the unstable and experimental versions,
it looks like the main change is libgmp3c2 to libgmp3?  (There is also
lib{32,64}gmp3 - lib{32,64}gmp10, but those libraries appear to only be
used by gmp itself).

 I know GMP is used in gcc itself, so I'd appreciate some guidance
 from the gcc team as well, since this is a major version change.
 
 I uploaded GMP 5 to experimental last year and it builds fine with two
 exceptions: hppa is BD-Uninstallable (?) and ia64 fails to build with
 an ICE.  The underlying cause is already known [1] and from reading
 the bug report I suspect I may be able to work around this by building
 one file with -O2 rather than -O3.  Other suggestions welcome.

hppa is in Needs-Build, not BD-Uninstallable; that's expected because
hppa doesn't have any autobuilders for experimental.

Have any of the reverse-dependencies been test-built against the new
version?  Does the move to 5.0.1 imply any source changes being required
for reverse-dependencies, or just rebuilds?  (I say just as there
appear to be around 350 r-dependencies, including at least five from the
GCC suite).

 Main question: should I go ahead and upload the new version when
 I get a free moment or do we need more investigation?

At the very least I'd first like to confirm that the suggested change
for ia64 works (rebuilding on the other architectures wouldn't hurt
either) and better understand the scope of the changes, particularly in
relation to e.g. gcc.

Regards,

Adam


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Bug#589389: FTBFS on ia64

2010-08-15 Thread Adam D. Barratt
clone 589398 -1
reassign -1 src:genius
found -1 1.0.9-1
thanks

Hi,

On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 18:23 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
 Short summary: genius FTBFS on ia64 (and only there) with this problem:
 
 cd ../lib  ../src/genius --maxerrors=0 --compile loader.gel  temp.cgel  
 mv -f temp.cgel lib.cgel
 /bin/bash: line 1:  7761 Segmentation fault  ../src/genius --maxerrors=0 
 --compile loader.gel  temp.cgel
 make[4]: *** [lib.cgel] Error 139
 
 I've debugged it on merulo and it builds fine with gcc-4.3 and gcc-snapshot,
 only fails with gcc-4.4. However with -O0 and -O1 it builds fine with
 gcc-4.4, only -O2 fails.

Thanks for the analysis.  As this can be worked around in the genius
packages I'm reassigning a clone back there.

The upstream changelog for 1.0.9 suggests that it fixes a number of
potential crashes and given the amount of testing it's had in unstable
(other than on ia64, obviously) it would be good to get that version in
to Squeeze.  (genius is also one of the last remaining packages using
mpfr rather than mpfr4 in testing).

Regards,

Adam



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Bug#589337: FTBFS on mips and sparc

2010-08-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 09:23 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 This is a bug in gcj, not in db4.8.  It appears to now affect *all*
 architectures, it just only manifested on sparc and mips because db4.8 was
 later to build there and got caught by the introduction of this bug.

Specifically, this does appear to be another instance of the general
problem from #580148.

gcc-4.4-base 4.4.4-7 ships /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.4/, 4.4.4-8
ships /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/ and the new gcj-4.4-base
packages have symlinks pointing to the latter.  gcc-4.4-base is already
installed in the chroots and often won't be the latest version unless
something has forced an upgrade, whereas gcj will be installed each time
if the buildd is using lvm snapshot chroots; the end result is that the
symlinks end up dangling.

afaics, gcj-4.4-jdk's dependency on gcc-4.4 needs to be bumped to =
4.4.4-8.

Regards,

Adam



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Bug#456264: retitle 456264 to gcj: non-free man page included ..., user [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...

2008-02-11 Thread Adam D . Barratt
# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.10.15
# Sorry...
retitle 456264 gcj: non-free man page included
retitle 465264 [debuild] --lintian-opts doesn't work
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
usertags 465264 debuild




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Bug#412104: Man page for gcc missing on Etch

2007-02-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 12:05 -0500, Bob Kline wrote:
 Package: gcc-4.1  
 
 Installing gcc on Etch does not provide a man page.  I've never seen a
 system (including previous versions of Debian) where gcc didn't come
 with a man page.

You want gcc-doc, which is in contrib, and will install the relevant
gcc-X.X-doc package from non-free.

gcc's man pages and documentation are licensed under a variant of the
GFDL that Debian has decided is non-free, hence their removal from main.

The gcc packages do Suggest: gcc-doc, which is much as a package in main
may do with respect to a package in non-free.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: hello,what is the gcc problem? etch gcc 4.1 no stdio.h?

2006-10-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 05:58 -0400, lantian ai wrote:
 grandi:~# cat hello.c
 #include stdio.h
 int main()
 {
   printf(hello world\n);
 }
 grandi:~# gcc -o hello hello.c
 hello.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
 hello.c: In function 'main':
 hello.c:4: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in
 function 'printf'
 grandi:~# ls /usr/include/
 initreq.h

The problem is that you don't have libc6-dev installed.

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Adam


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Bug#390694: [arm] Internal consistency failure while building OpenSER 1.1.0-3

2006-10-02 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 18:52 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Julien BLACHE writes:
  Package: gcc-4.1
  Version: 4.1.1-13
  Severity: important
  
  Hi,
  
  gcc-4.1 bails out with an error while build OpenSER 1.1.0-3 on arm, see
   
  http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?pkg=openserver=1.1.0-3%2Bb1arch=armstamp=1159765150file=logas=raw
 
 you're pointing to a sucessful log.

The package built successfully, but one of the files did indeed fail to
compile:

tree234.c: In function 'delpos234_internal':
tree234.c:927: fatal error: internal consistency failure
compilation terminated.
Preprocessed source stored into /tmp/ccqzWZWz.out file, please attach this to 
your bugreport.
make[2]: *** [tree234.o] Error 1

(In fact, tree234.c fails four times in the log).

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Adam


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Bug#389713: cpp-3.3: gcc package dependency problem

2006-09-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:46 AM, Klemens Kasemaa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Package: cpp-3.3
 Version: gcc-3.3-base

Erm... that's not a version number of the package cpp-3.3.

 Severity: important
 Cannot install gcc because of dependency problem:
   cpp-3.3: Depends: gcc-3.3-base ( 1:3.3.6) but 1:3.3.6-5 is to be
 installed
[...]
 Versions of packages cpp-3.3 depends on:
 ii  gcc-3.3-base  1:3.3.6-5  The GNU Compiler
 Collection (base ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge4 GNU C

It looks like you've attempted to mix and match packages from stable and
testing/unstable. That's not supported.

The version of gcc-3.3-base in sarge (stable) is currently 1:3.3.5-13, which
satisfies the dependencies. 1:3.3.6-5 isn't in the archive at all at the
moment (testing and unstable both have -13). -5 is newer than sarge, but
still over 15 months out of date.

Downgrade gcc-3.3-base to the sarge version, in line with the rest of your
system, and cpp-3.3 will install fine.

Closing as this isn't a bug in the package.

Regards,

Adam



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Re: g++ insanity??????

2005-12-02 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Friday, December 02, 2005 12:00 PM, Michael Blansfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

   I am trying to install the g++-3.3 compiler on my linux box. But I
 need  to install all the supporting libraries, which I do fine until
 I get to  libstdc++5-3.3-dev which requires g++!  What is this?
 Endless loop, catch 22, this does not compute, this does not
 compute...

apt is perfectly capable of resolving circular dependencies.

apt-get install g++-3.3 will do the right thing.

Regards,

Adam


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