Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
spoke again to TL and asked if pine64 would be willing to look at sponsorship witn rockpro64 boards (the ones that take 4x PCIe): if someone from debian were to contact him direct he would happily consider it. i then asked him if i could cc him into this discussion and he said he was way *way*

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:13 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > >>> also worth noting, they're working on a 2U rackmount server which >>> will have i think something insane like 48 Rock64Pro boards in one >>> full-length case.

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > >> that is not a surprise to hear: the massive thrashing caused by the >> linker phase not being possible to be RAM-resident

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: > that is not a surprise to hear: the massive thrashing caused by the > linker phase not being possible to be RAM-resident will be absolutely > hammering the drives beyond reasonable wear-and-tear limits. which is > why i'm recommending people try

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: >> also worth noting, they're working on a 2U rackmount server which >> will have i think something insane like 48 Rock64Pro boards in one >> full-length case. > None of this addresses the basic DSA requirement of remote management. >

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 06:05:55PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > apologies for repeating it again: this is why i'm recommending people > try "-Wl,--no-keep-memory" on the linker phase as if it works as > intended it will almost certainly drastically reduce memory usage to > the

Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>2G is also way too little memory these days for a new buildd. > > Nod - lots of packages are just too big for that now. apologies for repeating it again: this is why i'm recommending people try "-Wl,--no-keep-memory" on the linker phase

Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)

2018-06-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:23:25AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: >On 06/29/2018 09:16 AM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: >>> >>> [DSA Sprint report]: >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2018/02/msg4.html >> >> In this report Julien Cristau wrote: >> >>> In short, the hardware (development