Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Denis Barbier a écrit : On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : - glibc maintainers, would you approve of such an update to a point release of sarge? I am *one* of the glibc maintainer, and I agree in principle with such a change,

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Well I am currently trying to split the glibc to not have libraries and binaries in the same package (that will be a problem for multiarch). While I am doing that, I can also put the timezone data in a separate package. Please do. That will be a

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:56:36AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Denis Barbier a écrit : Ditto, but this should be done for all sarge stable releases, which is a lot of work. IMO splitting timezone data into a seperate package in the next sarge release would help future releases, if this is

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-15 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : - glibc maintainers, would you approve of such an update to a point release of sarge? I am *one* of the glibc maintainer, and I agree in principle with such a change, though I haven't look very

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: To get things rolling, I have prepared an updated glibc for sarge with just the timezone data updated to the latest upstream upstream. It is at http://people.debian.org/~lmamane/glibc/ . Technically right

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-10 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-09 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Hi, I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for one thing; and it places an extra burden on the maintainer(s) (who know have to track three different upgrade paths,

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for one thing; and it places an extra burden on the

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
[ debian-volatile dropped ] Hi Daniel, On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:41:26PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 09:52]: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
2006/2/7, Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's not us, but the stable maintainer, that you'd have to talk to; he has traditionally not been interested in these sorts of updates to stable as far as I know. Well, perhaps a first start is creating the package for stable-updates; would it be

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Martijn van Oosterhout ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 14:09]: ISTM the d-volatile is the right place for this. However, in the mean time I think someone should send a message to debian-announce that anyone running a debian machine with an Australian (or other affected) timezone needs to get

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Martijn van Oosterhout writes (Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?): The requirements for getting into a stable release update are not black magic, they're quite well known: http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r1/ 2. The package fixes a critical bug which can lead

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Daniel, On Monday, 06 Feb 2006, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security purposes -- but stable updates should not be confined to only

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:57:54AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 09:52]: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-06 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Hi, I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more rapidly than our release cycle (and than any release cycle we

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-06 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security purposes -- but stable updates should not be confined to only that. They should be done to keep the system

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more rapidly than our release cycle (and than any release cycle we can reasonable have). See

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/2006 12:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:08:52AM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: On 02/03/2006 12:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely