Bug#877900: How to get 24-hour time on en_US.UTF-8 locale now?

[Roman Mamedov]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:42:06 +0100
Aurelien Jarno  wrote:

> Yes, that's normal that only LANG is set, as it's the one with less
> priority. That said there was clearly something setting LC_ALL to
> en.US-UTF-8 before, you might want to grep /etc for that. When only LANG
> is set, you should get and output like this one:

Thanks, turns out in my case the "culprit" was LC_ALL getting passed from the
ssh client each time, due to /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

  # Allow client to pass locale environment variables
  AcceptEnv LANG LC_*

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With respect,
Roman

Bug#877900: How to get 24-hour time on en_US.UTF-8 locale now?

[Roman Mamedov]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:21:41 +0100
Aurelien Jarno  wrote:

> What is the content of /etc/default/locale? it looks like you have an
> additional entry than the LANG one set by dpkg-reconfigure locales.

"dpkg-reconfigure locales" only writes LANG=C.UTF-8 (or any other accordingly)
to that file. This results in the "locale" output that I posted above
(including after a relogin or reboot). There were no lines aside from that
in /etc/default/locale.

I was able to get the desired result only by manually adding a line with
"LC_ALL=C.UTF-8" to /etc/default/locale.

# locale
LANG=C.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="C.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="C.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="C.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="C.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="C.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="C.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="C.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="C.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="C.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="C.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=C.UTF-8

It is puzzling why this is required.

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With respect,
Roman

Bug#877900: How to get 24-hour time on en_US.UTF-8 locale now?

[Roman Mamedov]

So for those of us (the entire world), who have been relying on this behavior:

> * en_US (.UTF-8) is used as the default English locale for all places that
>   don't have a specific variant (and often even then).  Generally, technical
>   users use English as a system locale

How do we roll-back what you have done here, and still get en_US.UTF-8 while
retaining the proper 24-hour time?

dpkg-reconfigure locales does not list "C.UTF-8" in the main "locales to
generate" list, but does offer it on the next screen as "Default locale for the
system environment". After selecting it, we get:

# locale
LANG=C.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8

But still:

# date
Thu 07 Feb 2019 09:53:47 AM UTC

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With respect,
Roman