Processed: Re: Bug#844315: tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security installed

2016-11-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> reassign 844315 general
Bug #844315 [tzdata] tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from 
oldstable security installed
Bug reassigned from package 'tzdata' to 'general'.
No longer marked as found in versions 2016i-0+deb7u1.
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #844315 to the same values 
previously set
> retitle 844315 updates appear in wheezy-security before jessie
Bug #844315 [general] tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from 
oldstable security installed
Changed Bug title to 'updates appear in wheezy-security before jessie' from 
'tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security 
installed'.
> affects 844315 tzdata
Bug #844315 [general] updates appear in wheezy-security before jessie
Added indication that 844315 affects tzdata
> thanks
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Bug#844315: tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security installed

2016-11-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
reassign 844315 general
retitle 844315 updates appear in wheezy-security before jessie
affects 844315 tzdata
thanks

On 2016-11-14 12:54, Marcel Meckel wrote:
> Package: tzdata
> Version: 2016i-0+deb7u1
> Severity: critical
> 
> Upgrading a fully updated wheezy system (incl. security repo) to
> jessie (incl. security repo) results in tzdata not being updated
> because the version in wheezy-security is newer than in jessie.
> 
> Package tzdata on amd64
> 
>   wheezy:  2016d-0+deb7u1
>   wheezy-security: 2016i-0+deb7u1
> 
>   jessie:  2016f-0+deb8u1
>   jessie-updates:  2016i-0+deb8u1
>   jessie-proposed-updates: 2016i-0+deb8u1
> 
> Using only the main repo + security repo results in tzdata not being
> updates since wheezy-securities '2016i-0+deb7u1' is higher than
> jessies '2016f-0+deb8u1'.

Nothing can be done at the tzdata level, except maybe stopping providing
updates to wheezy users. I am therefore reassigning the bug to the
"general" package. Also there are probably more than tzdata affected.

Note however that you are supposed to use jessie-updates on a jessie
system. This is actually enabled by default in debian-installer.

Aurelien

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Bug#844315: tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security installed

2016-11-14 Thread Marcel Meckel

I like my systems to have packages from stable and stable security only.
So when I do a dist-upgrade and remove old/outdated/not needed packages
I expect to have all remaining packages to be from stable.

tzdata - although with a newer version - being stuck on oldstable,
is not expected.

It doesn't break anything in terms of "something doesn't work" but more
in terms of "it simply shouldn't be this way".

So, I'm with you - "critical" might not be the appropriate severity 
here.


Marcel



Bug#844315: tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security installed

2016-11-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:54:27PM +0100, Marcel Meckel wrote:
> Package: tzdata
> Version: 2016i-0+deb7u1
> Severity: critical
> 
> Upgrading a fully updated wheezy system (incl. security repo) to
> jessie (incl. security repo) results in tzdata not being updated
> because the version in wheezy-security is newer than in jessie.
> 
> Package tzdata on amd64
> 
>   wheezy:  2016d-0+deb7u1
>   wheezy-security: 2016i-0+deb7u1
> 
>   jessie:  2016f-0+deb8u1
>   jessie-updates:  2016i-0+deb8u1
>   jessie-proposed-updates: 2016i-0+deb8u1
> 
> Using only the main repo + security repo results in tzdata not being
> updates since wheezy-securities '2016i-0+deb7u1' is higher than
> jessies '2016f-0+deb8u1'.
>...

What is the "critical" breakage here?

If all that "breaks" is that you have the (more recent) 2016i-0+deb7u1 
installed until the next point release will update jessie to
2016f-0+deb8u1 (or newer), then this is a purely cosmetical issue.

If anything is actually broken, please explain what is broken.

Thanks
Adrian

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Bug#844315: tzdata version breaks dist-upgrade leaving version from oldstable security installed

2016-11-14 Thread Marcel Meckel

Package: tzdata
Version: 2016i-0+deb7u1
Severity: critical

Upgrading a fully updated wheezy system (incl. security repo) to
jessie (incl. security repo) results in tzdata not being updated
because the version in wheezy-security is newer than in jessie.

Package tzdata on amd64

  wheezy:  2016d-0+deb7u1
  wheezy-security: 2016i-0+deb7u1

  jessie:  2016f-0+deb8u1
  jessie-updates:  2016i-0+deb8u1
  jessie-proposed-updates: 2016i-0+deb8u1

Using only the main repo + security repo results in tzdata not being
updates since wheezy-securities '2016i-0+deb7u1' is higher than
jessies '2016f-0+deb8u1'.

Comment from IRC:

 That's indeed unfortunate. You can work around the
problem by adding jessie-updates, though.

 I think it's because wheezy didn't have a wheezy-updates,
so all updates must go through wheezy-security, whereas in jessie all
non-critical updates go through jessie-updates, and get wrapped up in
point releases every few months.

 It's still a bug though, I'd report it on the tzdata
package. Might warrant a RC severity, since it breaks automatic upgrades
and is easy to fix.