Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:06:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
  On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
  changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
  proposed-updates. 
 
 Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
 so.

Ok, thanks

  Anyway for the current status, 2011h is in s-p-u, while sid has 2011j,
  bringing DST changes for Samoa, New Foundland and creating a South
  Soudan entry. 2011k is going to be released on September 26th, bringing 
  changes to Palestine and Belarus. So it looks like we can already upload
  2011i for Lenny, and push 2011j to volatile just after. For Squeeze we 
  can go directly to 2011j.
 
 2011k?

Yes, sorry

  Can I already start with the upload to o-s-p-u or should I open a bug
  for that?
 
 Feel free to upload if you wish.  fwiw, although uploads for 5.0.9
 officially close over the weekend, I'd be minded to make an exception
 for a tzdata upload if it could made as early in the week as reasonably
 possible.
 

Ok, I have just uploaded 2011j to o-s-p-u for now. I will see if 2011k 
is really released on Monday. It contains quite important changes, but 
not urgent (they will be need for the 3rd week of October). There is 
currently a lot of discussions on the upstream mailing list for the name
of the new timezone for West Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

For squeeze, I'll wait to see how things are going upstream and will 
upload either 2011j or 2011k depending on that.

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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:55:17PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 11:45 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
  On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:06:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
proposed-updates. 
   
   Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
   so.
  
  Ok, thanks
 
 In fact, I found a tuit and the SUA went out last night.
 

Great, thanks.


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
 changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
 proposed-updates. 

Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
so.

 Anyway for the current status, 2011h is in s-p-u, while sid has 2011j,
 bringing DST changes for Samoa, New Foundland and creating a South
 Soudan entry. 2011k is going to be released on September 26th, bringing 
 changes to Palestine and Belarus. So it looks like we can already upload
 2011i for Lenny, and push 2011j to volatile just after. For Squeeze we 
 can go directly to 2011j.

2011k?

 Can I already start with the upload to o-s-p-u or should I open a bug
 for that?

Feel free to upload if you wish.  fwiw, although uploads for 5.0.9
officially close over the weekend, I'd be minded to make an exception
for a tzdata upload if it could made as early in the week as reasonably
possible.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-18 Thread Youssef Eldakar

On 09/17/2011 07:57 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 16:40 +0200, Youssef Eldakar wrote:

  On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:

[Russian law changes on October 30th]

For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
incorporate any further changes.


  Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze
  installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth
  reconsidering.

If it's broken for more than four months now, why has nobody mentioned
the issue before?


I myself was using Ubuntu - which had the updated tzdata package - and 
was recently considering switching a group of hosts to Debian when I ran 
into the issue.


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 16:40 +0200, Youssef Eldakar wrote:
 On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:
[Russian law changes on October 30th]
  For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
  the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
  before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
  may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
  incorporate any further changes.
 
 Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze 
 installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth 
 reconsidering.

If it's broken for more than four months now, why has nobody mentioned
the issue before?

tzdata maintainers - any thoughts here?  I know Aurelien mentioned that
there was probably another update for lenny/squeeze appearing before the
point releases in any case, but I'm not sure what the status is there.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-14 Thread Youssef Eldakar

On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:

I don't think there is a real need to push to to -updates. Nobody
requested about this changes in lenny or squeeze, so I guess they are
not that important.

It's very important update for everyone using debian in Russia, so
please, consider to push it to -updates and include in oldstable.
Our law on this matter become effective next week (September, 7) and
all systems where patch will not be installed on October, 30 will have
incorrect time.


For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
incorporate any further changes.


Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze 
installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth 
reconsidering.


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Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:
  I don't think there is a real need to push to to -updates. Nobody
  requested about this changes in lenny or squeeze, so I guess they are
  not that important.
 It's very important update for everyone using debian in Russia, so
 please, consider to push it to -updates and include in oldstable.
 Our law on this matter become effective next week (September, 7) and
 all systems where patch will not be installed on October, 30 will have
 incorrect time.

For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
incorporate any further changes.

Regards,

Adam


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