Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Grant Grundler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-19 19:08]:
 This is a good idea - switch to gcc-4.3 for everything but the kernel.
 I didnt think this would be possible but I'm not sure why I thought that.

We use gcc-4.1 for the kernel anyway, rather than the default
compiler.
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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-20 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:23:42AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * Grant Grundler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-19 19:08]:
  This is a good idea - switch to gcc-4.3 for everything but the kernel.
  I didnt think this would be possible but I'm not sure why I thought that.
 
 We use gcc-4.1 for the kernel anyway, rather than the default
 compiler.

fwiw, i'm comfortable with switching the kernel to gcc-4.2. i've been
using it for kernels on all my boxes since around christmas, i believe
(when i found problems with gcc-3.4 that made me move.)

i haven't tried it on any older boxes (pa1.1 based) but it seems to be
working well enough both 32-bit and 64-bit on my newer machines.

cheers, kyle


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Grant Grundler
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Grant Grundler writes:
...
  Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
  Can I apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3 on my hybrid system and get
  the right version?
 
 gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
 testing and unstable.

This is what I tested the 2.6.25-rc6 kernel with:

j6k:~# gcc-4.3 -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: hppa-linux-gnu
Configured with: ../src/configure linux gnu
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.3.1 20080309 (prerelease) (Debian 4.3.0-1)
j6k:~#

And during update (currently running), I pulled:

Get:11 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-hppa64 4.3.0-3 [3113kB]  
Get:12 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-base 4.3.0-3 [105kB] 

So I'll rebuild a kernel with that tomorrow and report back if no one
else can test that sooner.

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Kyle McMartin a écrit :
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:33:08AM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Grant Grundler writes:
 ...
 Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
 Can I apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3 on my hybrid system and get
 the right version?
 gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
 testing and unstable.
 This is what I tested the 2.6.25-rc6 kernel with:

 j6k:~# gcc-4.3 -v
 Using built-in specs.
 Target: hppa-linux-gnu
 Configured with: ../src/configure linux gnu
 Thread model: posix
 gcc version 4.3.1 20080309 (prerelease) (Debian 4.3.0-1)
 j6k:~#

 And during update (currently running), I pulled:

 Get:11 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-hppa64 4.3.0-3 [3113kB]
   
 Get:12 http://mirror.anl.gov testing/main gcc-4.3-base 4.3.0-3 [105kB]   
   

 So I'll rebuild a kernel with that tomorrow and report back if no one
 else can test that sooner.

 
 It's still broken, I tried today.
 

Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
kernel bug?

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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Kyle McMartin a écrit :
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:11:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
 kernel bug?

 
 It fails with gcc-4.3, and works fine with all previous versions...

I am actually asking that, because on the 3 problems detected when
switching glibc from gcc-4.2 to gcc-4.3, 2 were due to a bug on the
glibc side.

 Don't get me wrong though, I support switching to gcc-4.3 by default. If
 anything, more breakages gives us a better chance to debug it.

Agreed.

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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-17 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:11:30PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 Have you narrowed done the problem to find if it is a gcc bug or a
 kernel bug?
 

It fails with gcc-4.3, and works fine with all previous versions...

Don't get me wrong though, I support switching to gcc-4.3 by default. If
anything, more breakages gives us a better chance to debug it.

I'd just need gcc-4.2 to stick around for a while for the kernel.

regards, Kyle


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-16 Thread Matthias Klose
Grant Grundler writes:
 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 ...
  FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
  than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
  
  So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.
 
 Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
 Can I apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3 on my hybrid system and get
 the right version?

gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
testing and unstable.


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-16 Thread Grant Grundler
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Grant Grundler writes:
  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
  ...
   FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
   than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
   
   So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.
  
  Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
  Can I apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3 on my hybrid system and get
  the right version?
 
 gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.3-hppa64 are both available in the same version in
 testing and unstable.

ok - I'll check tonight if that's the same version Kyle and I tried 3-4 weeks
ago. I reported the symptom and version numbers in this forum.

To remind: the symptom was NIC driver ws reporting it could see traffic
(ifconfig stats) but remote host was not seeing ICMP responses - only
ARP traffic.

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-15 Thread Grant Grundler
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
...
 FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
 than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.
 
 So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.

Has anyone built a kernel with this version of gcc-4.3 and tried it?
Can I apt-get install -t sid gcc-4.3 on my hybrid system and get
the right version?

thanks,
grant


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Ludovic Brenta writes:
 Now that gnat-4.3 is on all architectures, I would like to upload
 gcc-defaults 1.70 making it the default on alpha, mips and mipsel as
 for all other archs.
 
 As is, gcc-defaults cannot enter testing because on alpha, mips and
 mipsel, if depends on gnat-4.2 which is not in testing and has RC
 bugs.
 
 I've committed the necessary change in the Subversion repo but I will
 not upload without approval.  So, is it OK to upload now?

please wait until Tue. the immediate need for the upload apparently
was worked around by hinting both gnat-4.2 and gnat-4.3 into testing.

I'd like to re-ask the hppa porters, if they want to make 4.3 the
default for lenny.

A short notice from the d-r team about by-passing RC reports would be
appreciated.


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Re: Approval to upload gcc-defaults 1.70?

2008-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Matthias Klose a écrit :
 Ludovic Brenta writes:
 Now that gnat-4.3 is on all architectures, I would like to upload
 gcc-defaults 1.70 making it the default on alpha, mips and mipsel as
 for all other archs.

 As is, gcc-defaults cannot enter testing because on alpha, mips and
 mipsel, if depends on gnat-4.2 which is not in testing and has RC
 bugs.

 I've committed the necessary change in the Subversion repo but I will
 not upload without approval.  So, is it OK to upload now?
 
 please wait until Tue. the immediate need for the upload apparently
 was worked around by hinting both gnat-4.2 and gnat-4.3 into testing.
 
 I'd like to re-ask the hppa porters, if they want to make 4.3 the
 default for lenny.
 

FYI the glibc testsuite with gcc-4.3 on HPPA now gives the same results
than with gcc-4.2, except on one FPU test, due to a bug in the *glibc*.

So it *seems* HPPA is ready for gcc-4.3 by default.

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