Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 05:07:13PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: So, release people: How likely is it that Hurd gets added to jessie? Within the next one or two months I mean, not maybe in a years time. :) I don't see it happening, to be honest. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital

changing the java default to java7, and dropping java support for some architectures

2013-05-06 Thread Matthias Klose
It's time to change the Java default to java7, and to drop java support on architectures with non-working java7. Patches for the transition to Java7 should be available in the BTS, mostly submitted by James Page. Some may be still lurking around as diffs in Ubuntu packages, apologies for that.

Re: changing the java default to java7, and dropping java support for some architectures

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matthias Klose, le Mon 06 May 2013 16:22:30 +0200, a écrit : - hurd never had openjdk support, and afaik, nobody is working on that. There has been work towards this, notably by Jeremie Koenig. I don't know the status, we just have not made it a strong priority so far. Samuel -- To

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Barry deFreese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, I have been significantly out of the loop for a while now but what do you base that on? What requirements are we still falling short on? Thanks, Barry deFreese On 5/6/2013 7:08 AM, Neil McGovern wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 05:07:13PM

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:15:44PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: Percentage built, percentage up to date, and (as far as I know) a working port and installer for a modern desktop machine? Um, having read back the above, it may have sounded a bit more curt than I was expecting, apologies! Those

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 05/05/13 16:07, Joerg Jaspert wrote: ...released together with all the others (probably as a technology preview)... So, release people: How likely is it that Hurd gets added to jessie? If added as a 'technology preview', what does that mean exactly? Would Hurd-specific RC-severity bugs

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:36:55AM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- OK, I have been significantly out of the loop for a while now but what do you base that on? What requirements are we still falling short on? Percentage built, percentage up to date, and (as

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Barry deFreese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fair enough and no offense taken. As I said, I haven't been contributing for quite a while now so they were more questions for myself than anything. Niels actually showed me the graph and it is a bit sadder than I had hoped. :( Though we do have

Re: changing the java default to java7, and dropping java support for some architectures

2013-05-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Klose dixit: Currently java bindings/packages are built for all architectures, however some architectures still use gcj as the (only available) Java implementation, and some OpenJDK zero ports are non-functional at this point, and Debian porters usually don't care about that. So the

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
with all the others (probably as a technology preview)... So, release people: How likely is it that Hurd gets added to jessie? If added as a 'technology preview', what does that mean exactly? Note that the tech preview was a softening of a requirement to get added to wheezy. Which didnt

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 06/05/13 20:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Adding it and then keeping it out of the usual migration rules is asking for failure from the beginning, accumulating cruft. Not a way to go, IMO. In that case would there be 150-200 RC-severity bugs introduced right away by its inclusion? (Packages

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Neil McGovern, le Mon 06 May 2013 17:15:45 +0100, a écrit : On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:36:55AM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- OK, I have been significantly out of the loop for a while now but what do you base that on? What requirements are we still

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Barry deFreese, le Mon 06 May 2013 13:32:04 -0400, a écrit : Fair enough and no offense taken. As I said, I haven't been contributing for quite a while now so they were more questions for myself than anything. Niels actually showed me the graph and it is a bit sadder than I had hoped.

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joerg Jaspert, le Mon 06 May 2013 21:27:46 +0200, a écrit : Adding it and then keeping it out of the usual migration rules is asking for failure from the beginning, accumulating cruft. Not a way to go, IMO. Excluding from the migration rules would probably become a headache, yes. But wouldn't

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Mon 06 May 2013 21:20:57 +0100, a écrit : On 06/05/13 20:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Adding it and then keeping it out of the usual migration rules is asking for failure from the beginning, accumulating cruft. Not a way to go, IMO. In that case would there be 150-200

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi Samuel, On 06/05/13 21:35, Samuel Thibault wrote: Steven Chamberlain, le Mon 06 May 2013 21:20:57 +0100, a écrit : In that case would there be 150-200 RC-severity bugs introduced right away by its inclusion? I would rather say simply dropping them, as already requested in Bug#704477.

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Mon 06 May 2013 21:47:00 +0100, a écrit : On 06/05/13 21:35, Samuel Thibault wrote: Steven Chamberlain, le Mon 06 May 2013 21:20:57 +0100, a écrit : In that case would there be 150-200 RC-severity bugs introduced right away by its inclusion? I would rather say

Re: Hurd and the archive

2013-05-06 Thread Barry deFreese
Well maybe that was a poor choice of words. I don't even quite understand what some of the columns mean, to be honest. But a visceral response to all of the red and yellow blocks was kind of sad knowing how much you all (and myself to a MUCH lesser degree) have put into it over the last