Le jeudi 10 février 2011 à 08:42 +0100, Niels Thykier a écrit :
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On 2011-02-09 00:17, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote:
Hi,
- work on Lintian to include some Java check (or some other tool ?)
lintian (2.5.0) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
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On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:23 AM, tony mancill wrote:
On 02/09/2011 05:26 AM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
So yes, I'm sure this kind of service can help, but I'm not sure it can
really bring us as far as we'd like to.
I think the Maven repo will be a great step forward, and know that multiple
On 09/02/2011 12:25, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
My apt-get source, hack and dpkg-bp was seen from a derivative
developer or sysadmin that has to modify the way a software works
on its own system or distribution.
As a sysadmin, I've never found the need to repackage a package.
If I need to
On 09/02/2011 15:40, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
I'm also trying to pass a message: you obviously care about packaging
Java applications, so aren't you frustrated that this is so hard (I
mean, impossible) to do for any significant and useful business
application (those that professional Debian
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
On 09/02/2011 15:40, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
I'm also trying to pass a message: you obviously care about packaging
Java applications, so aren't you frustrated that this is so hard (I
mean, impossible) to do for any significant and
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
On 09/02/2011 12:25, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
2. sometimes the policies need to be changed in the face of reality.
Otherwise, we end up like these poor monkeys:
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
On 09/02/2011 12:25, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
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Could we please end this thread here ? I'm glad it turned into a
constructive discussion on a
On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
On 09/02/2011 12:25, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
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Could we please end this thread here ?
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
Problem is, this is a policy issue, that is specific from the Java world
The issues Debian faces in packaging Java stuff is definitely not
specific to the Java world. Ruby, C, Python, games, all of them have
had or still
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On 2011-02-10 11:31, Jochen Becker wrote:
Hello Maintainers,
i have a question about this sun-java bug
Hey,
Moving this to debian-java@l.d.o to get more exposure. Unfortunately I
cannot answer your questions as I am not directly involved with
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Hi Stefane,
in another thread you write:
and that it is possible for projects to accumulate
technical debt by depending on strict version numbers.
OTOH, this is a HUGE source of instability and hard to debug bugs (as we've
found to our expense) to depend on loose version numbers.
I
On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Thomas Koch wrote:
Hi Stefane,
in another thread you write:
and that it is possible for projects to accumulate
technical debt by depending on strict version numbers.
OTOH, this is a HUGE source of instability and hard to debug bugs (as we've
found to our
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
I'm talking about the facts that valuable packages are not available *at
all* for us Debian / Ubuntu users.
In the case being discussed here, they're available from your separate apt
repository. If you were running Fedora, getting things from
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure
that the same build that works today will still work next week, if you
redo the build on the exact same version of the sources (and Maven, and
Java, of course), any operating
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure
that the same build that works today will still work next week, if you
redo the build on the exact same version of the sources
Hi Stefane,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure that
the same build that works today will still work next week, if you redo the
build on the exact same version of the sources (and
On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
Hi Stefane,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure that
the same build that works today will still work next week, if you redo the
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
a.jar (0.1) depends on b.jar (0.1)
c.jar (0.3) depends on b.jar (0.2)
d.jar (0.4) depends on a.jar (0.1) and c.jar (0.3)
A lot of things are wrong in Maven, but it this
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
a.jar (0.1) depends on b.jar (0.1)
c.jar (0.3) depends on b.jar (0.2)
d.jar (0.4) depends on a.jar (0.1) and c.jar
On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
Hi Stefane,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com wrote:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure that
the same build that works today will still work next week, if you redo the
Hi, Stefane:
On Thursday 10 February 2011 21:29:34 Stefane Fermigier wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be sure
that the same build that works today will still work
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
For those of us who have been doing this sort of thing for a while,
this argument sounds very familiar. I've heard this argument applied
to C libraries, Perl modules, Python modules, and most recently
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
If you don't do that already is because you know that your app will fail
day-in day-out because foo developer (and bar, and zoot...) is not
sensible enough not to break backwards compatibility between foo_1.2.3
and foo_1.2.4. Russ is right
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Hi, Stefane:
On Thursday 10 February 2011 21:29:34 Stefane Fermigier wrote:
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Stefane Fermigier s...@nuxeo.com writes:
Only by fixing version numbers of third-party libraries can you be
Hello,
Here are my goals for this year:
- keep working on maven-debian-helper and in particular mh_make.
The goal is to make it as trivial as possible to create a Debian package
from a project which uses Maven as its build tool. The current version
in experimental is already working well, but
I'm sadly still mostly not working on Debian due to a huge day job push,
but the good news from the Debian Java perspective is that the huge push
is in absorbing a bunch of Java applications (both web applications and
long-running daemons) from another part of our organization. That means
that
Hi,
I'm looking for a sponsor for the package squirrel-sql.
* Package name: squirrel-sql
Version : 3.2.0-1
Upstream Author : Colin Bell, Gerd Wagner, Rob Manning et al.
* URL : http://www.squirrelsql.org/
* License : LGPL
Section : java
The upload
Hi Thomas,
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Zeeman tjzee...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Actually, you can predict it. Given the above order and no outside influences
like a dependencyManagement block in your (parent) pom, it would be 0.1. See
Hi Ludovic,
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Ludovic Claude
ludovic.cla...@laposte.net wrote:
The current version in experimental is already
... in unstable. :)
Cheers,
Torsten
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