Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Dalibor Topic wrote: It would have been nice if you had made the arguments of each side clear, before attacking my position. The discussion has not taken place on debian-legal, but on debian-java. I appreciate the way Gadek presented both sides of the previuos argument.

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Dalibor Topic wrote: It would have been nice if you had made the arguments of each side clear, before attacking my position. The discussion has not taken place on debian-legal, but on debian-java. I appreciate the way Gadek presented both sides of the previuos argument. You have a good point, th

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 07:51:37PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: > My first issue is with the subject line: Kaffe uses plain GPL, not some > special 'Kaffe's GPL'. It should be FSF's GPL, if you'd want to > attribute it someone special. I read "Kaffe's (GPL and GPL incompatible Java software)", no

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Etienne, let's have some non-lawyerish philosophical licensing discussion fun again ;) My first issue is with the subject line: Kaffe uses plain GPL, not some special 'Kaffe's GPL'. It should be FSF's GPL, if you'd want to attribute it someone special. Etienne Gagnon wrote: Hi Debian-legal

Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Hi Debian-legal, Egon and Dalibor, The opinion of debian-legal would be highly appreciated by all involved in this long running thread of discussion about the implications of: 1- Kaffe being licensed under the GNU GPL. 2- Kaffe's class library being licensed under the GNU GPL. 3- Differeing interp

Re: Undistributable java in main

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: On Saturday 01 November 2003 20:08, Etienne Gagnon wrote: E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: The big question seems to come done to: "What part of Java is library and what part is language?" It seems to me that at least the syntax *and* java.lang *is* the language...

Re: Undistributable java in main

2003-11-02 Thread E.L. Willighagen (Egon)
On Saturday 01 November 2003 20:08, Etienne Gagnon wrote: > E.L. Willighagen (Egon) wrote: > > The big question seems to come done to: > > > > "What part of Java is library and what part is language?" > > > > It seems to me that at least the syntax *and* java.lang *is* the > > language... Thus as l

sablevm on hppa

2003-11-02 Thread Randolph Chung
Well, it started innocently enough on irc... an aside: what's needed to get it to work on hppa? just ffi? tausq: I belive so (unless we hit some bug ;-) * tausq might give it a try sometime tausq: you're welcome. I am here most of the time so I should be able to help/participate in re