Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:40:59AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: The opinion of debian-legal would be highly appreciated by all involved in this long running thread of discussion about the implications of: 1- Kaffe being licensed under the GNU GPL. 2- Kaffe's class library being licensed

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Andrew Suffield wrote: Kaffe is essentially a filter that takes java bytecode as input and emits program code on the fly (this is technically incomplete, but effectively equivalent for the sake of this argument). The input to a filter cannot be a derivative work of it; we don't *care* about the

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
[This is no longer particularly important] On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:37:49AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: Andrew Suffield wrote: Kaffe is essentially a filter that takes java bytecode as input and emits program code on the fly (this is technically incomplete, but effectively equivalent for

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Etienne, let's have some non-lawyerish philosophical licensing discussion fun again ;) My first issue is with the subject line: Kaffe uses plain GPL, not some special 'Kaffe's GPL'. It should be FSF's GPL, if you'd want to attribute it someone special. Etienne Gagnon wrote: Hi

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 07:51:37PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: My first issue is with the subject line: Kaffe uses plain GPL, not some special 'Kaffe's GPL'. It should be FSF's GPL, if you'd want to attribute it someone special. I read Kaffe's (GPL and GPL incompatible Java software), not