Andrey,
Have you ever tried to read what other people wrote? There's a package
freeze policy, which defines the procedures quite clearly; besides,
Qt-KDE team is not that big and it's hardly possible they'll manage to
package and push KDE 4.10 till wheezy release.
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:33:35
On Feb 7, 2013 1:33 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote:
The result:
Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x devices.
Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
I don't believe that is accurate as my HP tablet running Cyanogenmod9 with
Android 4.0.4, my Motorola Razor
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 07:56:23PM +0800, David Smith wrote:
The result:
Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x devices.
Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
I don't believe that is accurate as my HP tablet running Cyanogenmod9 with
Android 4.0.4, my Motorola Razor
On 08/02/2013 at 13:50, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
Galaxy Nexus was released with 4.0 more than year ago. It doesn't support
UMS.
But, as David pointed out, there are bunch of new devices that DOES support
UMS.
So maybe you should just choose your smartphone more carefully?
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:50:14 +0600
Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 07:56:23PM +0800, David Smith wrote:
The result:
Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x
devices. Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
I don't believe that is
On Friday 08 Feb 2013, David Smith wrote:
On Feb 7, 2013 1:33 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote:
The result:
Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x devices.
Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
I don't believe that is accurate as my HP tablet running
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 02:12:42PM +0100, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
Galaxy Nexus was released with 4.0 more than year ago. It doesn't support
UMS.
But, as David pointed out, there are bunch of new devices that DOES support
UMS.
So maybe you should just choose your smartphone more
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 Pavel Mihaduk le...@nixkid.com wrote:
There's a package freeze policy, which defines the procedures quite
clearly;
I'm not a debian developer, I'm using Debian/stable on servers and
Debian/testing on my home computer. Although it is sometimes tempting to
wish for newer
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:55:14AM +0300, Pavel Mihaduk wrote:
Andrey,
Have you ever tried to read what other people wrote? There's a package
freeze policy
Have *you* tried to read what other people wrote and notice *who* writes
*what*?
which defines the procedures quite clearly; besides,
The problem is that you take exactly the same position, _demanding_ KDE
4.10 in wheezy just because _you_ consider MTP support a must-have.
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:09:42 +0600
Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:55:14AM +0300, Pavel Mihaduk wrote:
Andrey,
MTP is a must-have. Simultaneously accessing data from a PC and a phone
isn't a hard sell. The options have already been laid out here among
everyone's angst. There's a freeze policy and one can help with a backport.
This must-have must be had later or separately.
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:21 AM,
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 05:21:19PM +0300, Pavel Mihaduk wrote:
The problem is that you take exactly the same position, _demanding_ KDE
4.10 in wheezy just because _you_ consider MTP support a must-have.
Please show where I demanded that.
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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 05:21:19PM +0300, Pavel Mihaduk wrote:
The problem is that you take exactly the same
On Feb 7, 2013 1:33 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote:
The result:
Google decided to remove USB Mass Storage from Android 4.x devices.
Newer Android devices support MTP-only.
I don't believe that is accurate as my HP tablet running Cyanogenmod9 with
Android 4.0.4, my Motorola Razor
If there's any links for newer android devices support MTP-only, I'm
interested to see but I think this is a mistake. The first statement
google decided to remove usb mass storage ... is correct in the sense of
google-branded devices. I believe this is also the case for the latest from
samsung.
For Samsung devices, it seems to be some, but not all devices. Looking at
the
tablets, you have usb mass storage support in the Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1
N8000 and the N8020, but not in the N8010. The N8010 and N8020 are marked
as
new on samsung.at, so I guess there is no fixed policy
For Samsung devices, it seems to be some, but not all devices. Looking at
the
tablets, you have usb mass storage support in the Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1
N8000 and the N8020, but not in the N8010. The N8010 and N8020 are marked
as
new on samsung.at, so I guess there is no fixed policy
On 09/02/13 14:38, David Smith wrote:
For Samsung devices, it seems to be some, but not all devices. Looking
at the
tablets, you have usb mass storage support in the Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1
N8000 and the N8020, but not in the N8010. The N8010 and N8020 are
marked as
new on samsung.at
Actually, it is still supported on OS-level, but the appropriate
options were removed from settings. One can enable MSC via terminal
(ofc root is required).
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:08:40 +0600
Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:58:17PM +0100, Leopold Palomo
Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2013 schrieb Alexey Eromenko:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Honestly: I don´t care.
I understand the sense behind MTP in not having to *mount* a device. But
from what I have seen regarding MTP I am not very
Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2013 schrieb Alexey Eromenko:
Long-term problem :
There must be easy way to add killer features post release.
Example : WebM codec is super easy to install on Windows XP. Updating
it's Media Player to v11 also gives you MTP support.
Then help making it happen if it is
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
That said I´d like to see a KDE SC 4.10 backport for Wheezy at some time
via backports.debian.org. And know what? If its so important for you:
You can help.
Heck, I am even not too sure about this for myself. Cause I follow testing
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
You can make it happen if you shift your focus from complaining to
contributing. Another way would be to talk in a different tone about it.
Well that I overdid a bit:
Of course its work in a team.
And for Wheezy release there is a
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
In my eyes its too late for Wheezy and I can understand if there is no
developer willing to upload it.
Well when I read more from the link
http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html
I posted, I really think it is too late
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:05:40AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Honestly: I don´t care.
I understand the sense behind MTP in not having to *mount* a device. But
from what I have seen regarding MTP I
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:05:40AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Honestly: I don´t care.
I understand the sense behind MTP in not
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 06:46:24PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Honestly: I don´t care.
I understand the sense behind MTP in not having to *mount* a device.
But from what I have seen
On 02/06/2013 10:19 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Debian needs to backport this killer feature into it's KDE, else
Android 4.x devices (such as samrtphones and tablets) will not work
with Debian.
Without this feature, Debian is simply not ready to enter the post-PC
era. Integration with Android is a must.
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On 02/06/2013 10:21 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Without this feature, Debian is simply not ready to enter the post-PC
era. Integration with Android is a must.
There's a post-PC era? I'm pretty sure most people still do and still
will do most of their computing on desktop/laptop PCs.
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I wasn't aware Debian had a priority to work on mobile devices.
It is not work on, but work with. Modern O.S. should be able to
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Alle mercoledì 6 febbraio 2013, Alexey Eromenko ha scritto:
Debian 7.0 (upcoming Wheezy) needs MTP support in it's KDE in order
to be relevant.
Arguable POV.
Debian needs to backport this killer feature into it's KDE, else
Android 4.x devices (such as samrtphones and tablets) will not
I think that yo are a bit dramatic. Just to configure your android device to
use usb as msc, mot mtp and you see your fantastic phone as a simple usb.
Another question is caldav and carddav...
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Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com ha escrit:
I wasn't aware Debian had a
History:
USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed
to replace the USB Mass Storage.
Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is
block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power down (or blue
screen, on certain O.S) the data on the smartphone will be
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 19:33:05 Alexey Eromenko wrote:
History:
USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed
to replace the USB Mass Storage.
Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is
block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power down
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 17:33:05 Alexey Eromenko wrote:
History:
USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed
to replace the USB Mass Storage.
Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is
block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power down
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:58:17PM +0100, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
History:
USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed
to replace the USB Mass Storage.
Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is
block-device-level protocol. And if
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 18:29:35 Alexey Eromenko wrote:
I prefer something in between. Stable core (I couldn't care less which
version of glibc is there, as long as it works) but with latest killer
features for Home users.
Then use Arch or Ubuntu or OpenSuSE.
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