Spamfiltering with KMail (was: Re: Multi-tasking)

2006-07-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 12:57 schrieb David Martínez Moreno: El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 11:50, Alejandro Exojo escribió: I have an Athlon 800, and when I download my email, kmail blocks completely, and doesn't refreshes until spamassassin finishes processing at least the current

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag 02 Juli 2006 21:03 schrieb Ritesh Raj Sarraf: You're using a laptop. So I guess you're just another use like me. You won't be running database daemons or other server daemons on the laptop. All I can suggest is to recompile your kernel with the following features: 1) Use 1000HZ

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: All I can suggest is to recompile your kernel with the following features: 1) Use 1000HZ for Kernel Timer Frequency (I highly recommend it) 2) Enable Kernel Preemption for Low Latency Desktops 3) Use Preempt The BIG Kernel Lock 4) Use CFQ as the I/O scheduler Thanks,

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Rigo Wenning
Nice tip, just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the official web-interface gives the same result. A stock kernel will

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Michael Thaler
On Monday 03 July 2006 09:59, Rigo Wenning wrote: Nice tip, just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the official

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Alejandro Bárcena Campos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rigo Wenning wrote: Nice tip, just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no,

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Lunes, 3 de Julio de 2006 09:59, Rigo Wenning escribió: just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the official

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Rigo Wenning
Thanks a lot for the answers and the effort. In fact I searched with kernel (as it worked before) and hadn't the reflex to search with source. Sorry for the chatter.. Rigo Am Monday 03 July 2006 10:03, sprach Michael Thaler: The debian kernel sources for 2.6 kernels are in sid. It is called

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Alejandro Bárcena Campos wrote: just tried to find the debian kernel-source for a 2.6 kernel in sid and there was none... I admit that I was a bit surprised. (unstable, isn't it ;) I thought it must be my fault (screwed aptitude or so), but no, the official web-interface gives the same result.

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-07-02 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Matej Cepl on Wednesday 28 Jun 2006 08:39 wrote: Hi, I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it for long time

Re: [OT]Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-29 Thread Dietz Proepper
Raúl Sánchez Siles: Here is something I have always liked to asks but I hadn't had the chance. The problem is that on my job PC, I use reiser over a LVM over a SATA disk. When I have some disk intensive tasks/intervals, my system turns not as responsive as I wish and as I think should be.

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-29 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 09:20, Matej Cepl wrote: Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Felipe Figueiredo wrote: Wouldn't it make much sense if debian had two kernel pakages? One suited for desktop and one for server? I guess it should be about time by now to have such concerns. Maybe that would be a sugestion for utnubu crew? That's bug# 375845 http://bugs.debian.org/375845 and

Re: [OT]Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-29 Thread Raúl Sánchez Siles
First of all, thank you very much for your answer. El Jueves, 29 de Junio de 2006 10:20, Dietz Proepper escribió: Raúl Sánchez Siles: In this situation, I have tried doing top on a konsole, and I find that the field wa in the above part of the top report, in the middle of id and hi

Re: [OT]Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-29 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
El Jueves, 29 de Junio de 2006 20:31, Raúl Sánchez Siles escribió: I currently use the deadline scheduler, do you think using another schedule would improve things¿? Staircase scheduler rocks all the way, and also CFQ2 for I/O. But they're only available in CK patch i use here :) -- Rafael

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
. Regards, Leo A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl va escriure: Hi, I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: Hi, I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it for long time

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread André Wöbbeking
multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it for long time, but couple of days I was working on Windows XP and running something terribly complicated with Access, it was running completely out of its mind, but when I switched to the other window where I had Excel, I could work

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Anders E. Andersen
Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and it is not that bad computer -- Dell Inspiron 2200 notebook w/ Celeron 1.4GHz, 512MB RAM). I believe that Linux should have perfect

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 11:50, Alejandro Exojo escribió: I have an Athlon 800, and when I download my email, kmail blocks completely, and doesn't refreshes until spamassassin finishes processing at least the current email, but if I switch to another application, it works very well.

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote: That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It is...two years old? Three? And it makes KMail unuseable with a spamassassin configured with DNS

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and it is not that bad computer -- Dell Inspiron 2200 notebook w/

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 13:28, Frans Pop escribió: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote: That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It is...two years old? Three? And it

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread André Wöbbeking
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 13:48, David Martínez Moreno wrote: The last option is learning some C++, Qt, and KDE internals, and get wet with the code. I'm sure help is always welcome :-) But I don't think that anythink is changed in 3.5.x. We have to wait until KDE 4. Cheers, André

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:30, André Wöbbeking wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:15, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: Hi, Is anything trying to write/read large amounts of data when this happens? if so you might want to: - check

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen escribió: Pretty much the only thing that comes to my mind is if you are running a kernel that has been compiled with the 'preemptible kernel' option. s/with/without/ Without a preemptible kernel, the desktop experience is not as

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Alejandro Exojo wrote: Which kernel are you using? I always run the default debian kernel, and I noticed that the responsiveness of the desktop improved a lot in some 2.6 release (i suppose because the scheduler was different). hand-compiled vanilla+suspend2 2.6.17.1 Thanks for the reply,

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or server. A preemptive kernel has a better feeling for the

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Leopold Palomo Avellaneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Jun 28 06:53 -0500]: A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: have you tried to compile yourself a kernel. I think that the debian packages of kernels have a default behavior of server. From the 2.6 kernels, there's an option in the multitask about preemptive or server. A preemptive kernel has a better feeling for the

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
Hi, Your computer should work fine with all the given suggestions. But if you want to improve your desktop experience even more, try Con Kolivas kernel patch: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ Here, I can compile several things at the same time while listening to music with

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Matej Cepl
André Wöbbeking wrote: I sometimes have this problem and thought that it's related to SATA. But I'm using reiserfs3. Do you've more infos about its problems under high load. No, the problem was non-preemptive kernel -- this is just plain ext3 notebook (no fancy server filesystems here). Matej

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Anders E. Andersen
Leopold Palomo Avellaneda skrev: A Dimecres 28 Juny 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen va escriure: Matej Cepl skrev: on the background. Whenever I run something more complicated in Linux (gcc, update of slocate dbase), whole computer goes almost to halt (and it is not that bad computer --

Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Anders E. Andersen
Matej Cepl skrev: Why, oh why I haven't asked this question before (using Linux for almost six years and never suspected that my kernel configuration is anything than perfect)? :'( Thanks a lot, I have recompiled kernel with CONFIG_PREEMPT and it seems to be really *much* more responsive. Why

Re: Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then? Has anyone filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB |

Re: Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB |

Re: Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. - Nate -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB |

Re: Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Nate Bargmann wrote: So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what happens. And if they add to this version of kernel also

[OT]Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Raúl Sánchez Siles
El Miércoles, 28 de Junio de 2006 13:24, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) escribió: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:30, André Wöbbeking wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:15, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:09, Matej Cepl wrote: Hi, Is anything trying to

Re: Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Jun 28 15:02 -0500]: Nate Bargmann wrote: So, I presume they are not compiled for desktop use then?  Has anyone filed a wishlist bug to get a set of kernels that are pre-emptive? I filed a wishlist bug against linux-source-2.6.17 so we shall see what

Multi-tasking

2006-06-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, I really do not want to flame (I have been using KDE for many years and I do not mean to change anything about that), but can anybody explain why KDE has so lousy multi-tasking? Or is it whole Linux? I have noticed it for long time, but couple of days I was working on Windows XP and running