Menus toolbars all screwed up.

2003-03-14 Thread Doug Holland
Since I updated my system using dselect, menus  toolbars on many programs are 
seriously screwed up.  I get doubled entries, doubled toolbars, menu items 
saying No text! and so on.

What happened to my menus and how do I fix it?




Re: Menus toolbars all screwed up.

2003-03-14 Thread David Pashley
Doug Holland said, and I quote:
 Since I updated my system using dselect, menus  toolbars on many programs 
 are 
 seriously screwed up.  I get doubled entries, doubled toolbars, menu items 
 saying No text! and so on.
 
 What happened to my menus and how do I fix it?
 
 
Check that you have a /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file. Re-install
kdelibs-data.

   apt-get install --reinstall kdelibs-data

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CapsLock

2003-03-14 Thread Oleg
CapsLock stopped working in KDE after I installed 3.1.  Did a search in 
Control Center - nothing. Any ideas?

Oleg




Where is kdeprint?

2003-03-14 Thread Pedro Jurado Maqueda
 Hi, today March 14th I try to install kdeprint 3.1.0 in woody with KDE 3.1.0 
but it no be in Nolden's repository, then I search in Debian page but either 
be there. Nevertheless I found it in unstable branch kdeprint 3.1.1. What 
happens, why aren't in 3.1.0 version?, is something wrong with it?
Thanks in advance for you ask.

FDO. ER_MELENAS




Re: Where is kdeprint?

2003-03-14 Thread Pedro Jurado Maqueda
El Viernes, 14 de Marzo de 2003 13:24, Pedro Jurado Maqueda escribió:
  Hi, today March 14th I try to install kdeprint 3.1.0 in woody with KDE
 3.1.0 but it no be in Nolden's repository, then I search in Debian page but
 either be there. Nevertheless I found it in unstable branch kdeprint 3.1.1.
 What happens, why aren't in 3.1.0 version?, is something wrong with it?
 Thanks in advance for you ask.

Searching in Google I found two packages:

*kdeprint_3.1.0-2_i386.deb
It's not install, dependencies problem

dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de kdeprint:
 kdeprint depende de libc6 (= 2.3.1-1); sin embargo:
  Versión de libc6  en el sistema es 2.2.5-14.3.
 kdeprint depende de libfam0c102; sin embargo:
  el paquete libfam0c102 no está instalado.
 kdeprint depende de libgcc1 (= 1:3.2.2-1); sin embargo:
  Versión de libgcc1  en el sistema es 1:3.2.2-0.bunk.
 kdeprint depende de libpng12-0; sin embargo:
  el paquete libpng12-0 no está instalado.
 kdeprint depende de libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.1.1); sin embargo:
  el paquete libqt3c102-mt no está instalado.
 kdeprint depende de libstdc++5 (= 1:3.2.2-1); sin embargo:
  Versión de libstdc++5  en el sistema es 1:3.2.2-0.bunk.

sorry by the Spanish output but I think everybody can understand

Next I download kdeprint_3.1.0-0woody2_i386.deb
It install without problem but when I try to enter in Administrator mode in 
peripherals-Printers could not find the next file:

*kdeprint_lpd.la

and I can not add any printer.

I couldn't find kdeprint_3.1.0-1 that seems to be the correct package for me, 
it isn't?

Thanks again in advance for your ask

FDO. ER_MELENAS




Re: Is kscd usable? (kdemultimedia 3.1 on ppc)

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 21:58, Matthieu Robin wrote:
 Le Jeudi 13 Mars 2003 21:19, Chris Cheney a écrit :
  Something I forgot to mention earlier is that PC optical disks have had
  spdif connectors on them for several years now. So even if you are an
  audiophile using a cable (a spdif one) would still result in good
  quality.

 On recent PCs, on-the-fly ripping (1x) does not take so much cpu time.
 The analog cable was useful for 486, but I really think that it is outdated
 now (maybe for some old drives that can't extract audio digitally).

 The problem is that the current linux kernel is unable to use DMA for audio
 ripping (related to the sector size) on IDE drives. And without DMA, the
 cpu load is high... Something like playing a dvd video vithout overlay...

Whatever the problem is - send in a patch and I'll go over it and add it to 
CVS :-)

Ralf

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Re: KDE Usability survey

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 20:48, Frank Van Damme wrote:
 On Thursday 13 March 2003 19:58, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:

 That said, a survey taken only on Debian-kde is bogus. Your data won't be
 representational. I also think the concept of useability is taken in the
 Apple sense, focusing on user interface. That may have been the objective
 of the one who wrote the survey, but why were there questions about
 stability then?

Taken only on debian-kde is probably bogus, but it would help KDE a lot 
because all other distributions modify KDE to their liking. Debian is one of 
the only distros that keeps KDE in the way that the projects ships the code, 
which is what I value debian for mostly. For KDE surveys, debian is probably 
one of the best platforms due to that, and you can also further elaborate on 
the problems that users experience with debian as a desktop system.

Ralf


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Re: KDE Usability survey

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 22:16, Bruce Sass wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
  On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:08, Frank Van Damme wrote:
   On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:27, Randy Kramer wrote:
 
  ...
 
   * The optimization effort currently going on in kde.
  
   I wasn't really aware of this :-)

 ditto  :-)

  It would be interesting to know why the bleeding edge people insist on
  using old hardware.

 - we like pushing the envelope in all directions
 - crippling a nice new machine with unstable software
   doesn't always work
 - easiest way out of a compatibility issue

  If you think that you want to draw people from win95 on a P100
  to to linux offering KDE3.1 you miss your audience.

 I don't think the audience is missed, maybe small, and probably best
 targeted (can't expect to do all of KDE3+ on an old slow box, at least
 not all at the same time).

 ...

  I really hope I am wrong and that somebody is still developing the KDE1
  and

 Debian Weekly News - February 11th, 2003:
 ...the [3]Turbo Desktop Environment aimed at users with older
 computers who still want to run a proper desktop. It is based on KDE 1
 and Debian.

  3. http://www.liniso.de/tde/

 Anyone used TDE yet?

No, but you're running into a different type of problem. KDE 1 was using Qt 1 
which is not free software, hence the reason why KDE 1 wasn't part of debian.

Ralf



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artsdsp rosegarden4 crashes

2003-03-14 Thread Gerhard Gaussling
Hi All,

I tried to run rosegarden 4 from sid, but the sequencer crashes all the 
time:

# artsdsp rosegarden4 

0x415e2b89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x415e2b89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x41656020 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x414d5061 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x40bafd6b in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x4156f9d8 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x414d3521 in raise () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x41570986 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#7  0x41569ae9 in __assert_fail () from /lib/libc.so.6
#8  0x414b1712 in snd_seq_query_next_client () from 
/usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#9  0x4006b8b4 in Rosegarden::AlsaDriver::checkForNewClients() ()
   from /usr/lib/libRosegardenSequencer.so.0
#10 0x0805cc03 in dlopen ()
#11 0x0805e4f6 in std::_Rb_treeRosegarden::MappedEvent*, 
Rosegarden::MappedEvent*, std::_IdentityRosegarden::MappedEvent*, 
Rosegarden::MappedEvent::MappedEventCmp, 
std::allocatorRosegarden::MappedEvent* 
::_M_erase(std::_Rb_tree_nodeRosegarden::MappedEvent**) ()
#12 0x4155ea51 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6

Does anybody know about that problem?

The only things related I found on the web are these messages:
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/16004/2002/11/0/10253054/
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=rosegarden4

But there is no related bug listed...

Any hints?

Do I have to enable jackd before starting the sequencer?

Thanks in advance

kind regards

Gerhard Gaußling




KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

just to let you know, I've updated my repository and set up the packages files 
today.

Please give it a go and update. If the update works fine so far, those 
packages will be the ones going to the ftp servers for KDE 3.1.1 on woody.

/etc/apt/sources.list:
- --

KDE 3.1.1 + Ägypten:

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde woody main

Updated KDE 3.1.1 packages and libgpgme6 (gpgme). Excluded for now are quanta 
and kdebindings due to compile problems with qt-3.1.2.

XFree86 4.3:

The XFree 4.3 builds are updated to Daniels' -0ds3v1 build:

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/X11 woody main

Known problems:
- -

If you are using KDE 2.2.2 from Woody and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 from my 
repository everything should work fine.

If you're using KDE 3.0.x and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you should read

http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README

If you're using KDE 3.1.0 and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you will run into one 
particular problem with kdepim. If you run into kdepim-libs not being 
installable due to conflicts with other packages, remove those conflicting 
packages first. 

kdepim is entering sid in exactly this way and there's unfortunately no other 
way to avoid those problems other than that I would have added the conflicts 
myself and maintain them extra (Chris didn't put them in, not for 3.0- 3.1.1 
nor for 3.1.0 - 3.1.1 because kdepim wasn't in sid ever for 3.1.0).

The good side of this is though that after you've made this transition to my 
woody 3.1.1 packages you'll be in sync with unstable again (except the 
Ägypten stuff which currently only reliably works with my woody builds). As 
far as updating your machine to any later KDE version (or distribution 
version after woody) goes, you can count on that will work painlessly.

Please let us know if you have problems with those packages other than the 
described conflicts that may occur.

Ralf


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kdevelop and kdelibs3/4

2003-03-14 Thread Jean Richelle
Hi,
I'm trying to install kdevelop but it seems to depend on kdelibs4 
that does not want to be installed; cf err msg below.  At the web 
site it said to depend on kdelibs3 !
What can be done ?

Regards, Jean
apt-get -t stable install kdevelop
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs4 (= 4:3.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages



qt-designer crashes

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Thaler
Hello,

I installed qt3-designer on kde unstable today and if I try to start
it (from the start-menu, kdevelop or the command line) it crashed. On
the command line I get the following error message:

:~$ designer-qt3
Segmentation fault

which is not really helpfull. By chance, I startet qt3-designer also
as root and it works. So I thought maybe the reason is the qt-curve
style. I changed it to Keramik and tryed it again and got the
following error message:

:~$ designer
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqcdestyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqcompactstyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqmotifplusstyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqmotifstyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqplatinumstyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqsgistyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqwindowsstyle-non-mt.so:
  Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
Segmentation fault
:~$

So it is definitely a problem with styles/libqt. But why are the
styles compiled with the single threaded library or what's wrong here?

By the way, wouldn't it be nice to have gideon in SID, too? Ok, it's
probably unstable, but isn't that what debian unstable is for?

Thanks in advance,
Michael




Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Roy Bixler
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 02:37:45PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 Please give it a go and update. If the update works fine so far, those 
 packages will be the ones going to the ftp servers for KDE 3.1.1 on woody.

Upgrading from your 3.1 packages, I get a couple of unmet
dependencies:

kdelibs-bin depends on libcupsys2 (= 1.1.18-1)
kdelibs4 depends on libcupsys2 (= 1.1.18-1)

And here is what I have installed for these dependencies:

 *** Opt libs libcupsys2   1.1.14-4.4  1.1.14-4.4

Should force installation of these two packages or what?

thx,

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Re: Where is kdeprint?

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 14 Mar 2003 12:24, Pedro Jurado Maqueda wrote:
  Hi, today March 14th I try to install kdeprint 3.1.0 in woody with
 KDE 3.1.0 but it no be in Nolden's repository, then I search in
 Debian page but either be there. Nevertheless I found it in unstable
 branch kdeprint 3.1.1. What happens, why aren't in 3.1.0 version?, is
 something wrong with it? Thanks in advance for you ask.

You probably caught Ralf in the middle of updating his repository from 
KDE 3.1.0 to 3.1.1. Perhaps you should run apt-get update and try and 
install kdeprint from there again?

Re: your subsequent email, you should not have taken kdeprint from 
Debian/sid as it will not be compatible with Ralf's KDE for Woody. 
Please remove kdeprint (dpkg --remove kdeprint) and then try installing 
from Ralf's source.

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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Re: qt-designer crashes

2003-03-14 Thread James Greenhalgh
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 09:09, Michael Thaler wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I installed qt3-designer on kde unstable today and if I try to start
 it (from the start-menu, kdevelop or the command line) it crashed. On
 the command line I get the following error message:
 
 :~$ designer-qt3
 Segmentation fault
 
Try moving your ~/.qt to ~/.qt-old 

-James




Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Sebastian Gutweiler
* Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030314 14:37]:
 Please let us know if you have problems with those packages other than the 
 described conflicts that may occur.

I have one problem:

kdelibs4: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.18-1) but 1.1.14-4.4 is to be installed

Am I missing a apt-line? I can't find a backport of libcupsys2.

Sebastian
 




Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 14:37, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 /etc/apt/sources.list:
 --

 KDE 3.1.1 + Ägypten:

 deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde woody main

 Updated KDE 3.1.1 packages and libgpgme6 (gpgme). Excluded for now are
 quanta and kdebindings due to compile problems with qt-3.1.2.

Sidenote:  Newly backported packages for running KDE are:

libdb4.0
libpisock8 


libdb4 is required now across KDE since kdesdk (esp. kbabel) now relies on it, 
so all KDE packages depending on libdb are now using libdb4 like those in 
unstable.

KPilot users should now be happier with libpisock8 being used so you can use 
USB palms on woody.

Ralf

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Re: qt-designer crashes

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 15:09, Michael Thaler wrote:

Try rm -r ~/.qt, then re-login and set your KDE settings again in kcontrol.

Ralf
 Hello,

 I installed qt3-designer on kde unstable today and if I try to start
 it (from the start-menu, kdevelop or the command line) it crashed. On

 the command line I get the following error message:
 :~$ designer-qt3

 Segmentation fault

 which is not really helpfull. By chance, I startet qt3-designer also
 as root and it works. So I thought maybe the reason is the qt-curve
 style. I changed it to Keramik and tryed it again and got the

 following error message:
 :~$ designer

 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqcdestyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqcompactstyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqmotifplusstyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqmotifstyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqplatinumstyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqsgistyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/styles/libqwindowsstyle-non-mt.so:
   Plugin uses single threaded Qt library!
 Segmentation fault

 :~$

 So it is definitely a problem with styles/libqt. But why are the
 styles compiled with the single threaded library or what's wrong here?

 By the way, wouldn't it be nice to have gideon in SID, too? Ok, it's
 probably unstable, but isn't that what debian unstable is for?

 Thanks in advance,
 Michael

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Friday 14 March 2003 14:37, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 just to let you know, I've updated my repository and set up the packages
 files today.

 Please give it a go and update. If the update works fine so far, those
 packages will be the ones going to the ftp servers for KDE 3.1.1 on woody.

To overcome the unmet dependencies with kdelibs4 and libcupsys, I also
installed your printer packages.

But:

Aegypten with the crypt-plugin in kmail doesn't work anymore. The pinentry
window appears to ask for the passphrase. But after typing one or two
letters of the passphrase, the window disappears and a window with an error
message This message could not be signed!, The Crypto Plug-in ... #19: No
passphrase.

Also, looking at ~/.xsession-errors, I found the following lines:

kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/libsocks.so: 
file=/usr/lib/libsocks.so: /usr/lib/libsocks.so: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/libsocks5.so: 
file=/usr/lib/libsocks5.so: /usr/lib/libsocks5.so: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: 
file=/usr/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: /usr/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/lib/libsocks.so: 
file=/usr/local/lib/libsocks.so: /usr/local/lib/libsocks.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/lib/libsocks5.so: 
file=/usr/local/lib/libsocks5.so: /usr/local/lib/libsocks5.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: 
file=/usr/local/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: /usr/local/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: 
file=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: /usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5.so: 
file=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5.so: /usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5.so: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: 
file=/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: 
/usr/local/socks5/lib/libsocks5_sh.so: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/opt/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: 
file=/opt/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: /opt/socks5/lib/libsocks.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/opt/socks5/lib/libsocks5.so: 
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Disk mount/unmount GUI...

2003-03-14 Thread Terry Gray
Does Debian, or KDE, have an application similar to Mandrake's DiskDrake, or
selecting and mounting/unmounting disk partitions.

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
Hmmm.. a lot of packages seem to be kept back with an 'apt-get upgrade'

apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  ark artsbuilder cervisia kaboodle kaddressbook kappfinder kate kaudiocreator 
kcalc kcontrol kdebase kdebase-bin
  kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia 
kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesktop kfind khelpcenter 
kicker kjots klipper kmail kmenuedit kmid
  kmidi kmix konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer krec 
kscd ksmserver ksplash ksysguard
  ksysguardd ktip kuser kwin libarts1-mpeglib libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 mpeglib 
noatun
8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 51  not upgraded.
Need to get 3457kB of archives. After unpacking 36.9kB will be used.


On Friday 14 March 2003 05:37, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 Hi,

 just to let you know, I've updated my repository and set up the packages
 files today.

 Please give it a go and update. If the update works fine so far, those
 packages will be the ones going to the ftp servers for KDE 3.1.1 on woody.

 /etc/apt/sources.list:
 --

 KDE 3.1.1 + Ägypten:

 deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde woody main

 Updated KDE 3.1.1 packages and libgpgme6 (gpgme). Excluded for now are
 quanta and kdebindings due to compile problems with qt-3.1.2.

 XFree86 4.3:

 The XFree 4.3 builds are updated to Daniels' -0ds3v1 build:

 deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/X11 woody main

 Known problems:
 -

 If you are using KDE 2.2.2 from Woody and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 from my
 repository everything should work fine.

 If you're using KDE 3.0.x and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you should read

 http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README

 If you're using KDE 3.1.0 and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you will run into one
 particular problem with kdepim. If you run into kdepim-libs not being
 installable due to conflicts with other packages, remove those conflicting
 packages first.

 kdepim is entering sid in exactly this way and there's unfortunately no
 other way to avoid those problems other than that I would have added the
 conflicts myself and maintain them extra (Chris didn't put them in, not for
 3.0- 3.1.1 nor for 3.1.0 - 3.1.1 because kdepim wasn't in sid ever for
 3.1.0).

 The good side of this is though that after you've made this transition to
 my woody 3.1.1 packages you'll be in sync with unstable again (except the
 Ägypten stuff which currently only reliably works with my woody builds). As
 far as updating your machine to any later KDE version (or distribution
 version after woody) goes, you can count on that will work painlessly.

 Please let us know if you have problems with those packages other than the
 described conflicts that may occur.

 Ralf


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Ralf's latest.. Sorry.. Should have specified which packages

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
The following pacakges are indicated ready for upgrade.


file kdebase-data libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-xine libartsc0 
libgpgme6 libmimelib1

Trying an upgrade for these results in all of the 'heldback' pacakges in the 
last email.  This of course is Ralf's stable..

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Re: Disk mount/unmount GUI...

2003-03-14 Thread tatanka
Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 16:51, Terry Gray a écrit :
 Does Debian, or KDE, have an application similar to Mandrake's DiskDrake,
 or selecting and mounting/unmounting disk partitions.

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 Status Report

2003-03-14 Thread tatanka
Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 01:45, Doug Holland a écrit :
 On Thursday 13 March 2003 08:27 am, Chris Cheney wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:30:44AM -0300, Michel Loos wrote:
   On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 11:09, Caoilte O'Connor wrote:
I'm trying to workout if this was deliberately inconsiderate or not.
It's not like kde 3.1.1 has been officially released (as far as i can
tell). What you have done is force people still using other packages
to upgrade to the incomplete sid ones if they want a package.
  
   And when libvorbis0a hits sid, we willl have to choose for some time
   between kde and a lot of other packages which depend on libvorbis0
   (mplayer, zinf etc..)
  
   Michel.
 
  Yep, it hits sid today, a message was sent to debian-devel last saturday
  to get all packages depending on libvorbis to rebuild so they should be
  done soon, probably during the Bug Squash Party held this weekend.
 
  Chris

 Do please hold off on the libvorbis until people have had time to rebuild
 packages.  I tried installing it, and found that it would force an
 uninstall of a whole bunch of games  such, so I held off.

 Doug

maybe it was already said but why there is a libvorbis0a and not just a more 
recent libvorbis0 ?




Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:36, Sven Bergner wrote:
 Hi Sebastian,
 I had the same problem. The apt-line you need is
 http://ktown.kde.org/nolden/Printer woody main


That's a Typo..
deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/Printing looks better :)

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Peddemors
The Printing source dealt with the libcupsys issue, but now we have still have 
a problem with 4 packages being held back. Probably cupsys problem but before 
I can get to that, getting an error. Ralf might be in the middle of more 
updates..

Fetched 37.4MB in 8m50s (70.4kB/s)
Failed to fetch 
http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs-bin_3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb
  
Size mismatch
Failed to fetch 
http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs-data_3.1.1-0woody1_all.deb
  
Size mismatch

apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  cupsys samba-common smbclient smbfs

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Update again was:Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 17:50, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 On Freitag, 14. März 2003 16:33, Sebastian Gutweiler wrote:
  * Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030314 14:37]:
   Please let us know if you have problems with those packages other than
   the described conflicts that may occur.
 
  I have one problem:
 
  kdelibs4: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.18-1) but 1.1.14-4.4 is to be
  installed
 
  Am I missing a apt-line? I can't find a backport of libcupsys2.

 ARGL !!!

Ok, please give it another go. If I've mistakely have used another dependency 
from the Printing or X11 section please let me know. The cupsys problem 
should be removed now, I rebuilt kdelibs (same version number) and uploaded 
it.

Ralf

 Ok, ok, my mistake :-) I will need to recompile kdelibs with the cups from
 woody.

 If you still want to use *those* packages already up, then use

 deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/Printing woody main

 Mind that that upgrades other stuff too like samba-2.2.7a. If you don't
 want to upgrade those packages, please wait until I recompiled kdelibs.

 Ralf

  Sebastian

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Re: KDE Usability survey

2003-03-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Thursday 13 March 2003 03:26 pm, Frank Van Damme wrote:
  Hmm, maybe I misunderstood -- I thought you created the survey?

 Heh, no, not at all :-)

Frank,

Well, good!  (I didn't want to say the survey seemed quite slanted to 
achieve a certain result, but that's sure what it seemed like.)

regards,
Randy Kramer




Re: KDE 3.1.1 Status Report

2003-03-14 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
torsdagen den 13 mars 2003 09.58 skrev Gaute Hvoslef Kvalnes:
 Chris Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Most of KDE 3.1.1 is now in Debian Sid.

 How can that be? 3.1.1 hasn't been tagged in CVS yet, as far as I can
 tell.

I found this is kde-core-devel:

fredagen den 14 mars 2003 13.16 skrev Dirk Mueller:
 On Fre, 14 Mär 2003, Stephan Binner wrote:
  I still don't see KDE_3_1_1_RELEASE tags. I read that distributors got
  the source on Tuesday and Debian is already shipping KDE 3.1.1 binary
  packages.

 The packages are not final yet, there is still at least one compile problem
 in Quanta to sort out.

 Debian does special stuff all the time, get used to it ;-)

Laugh!

Karolina




Re: PyKDE packages?

2003-03-14 Thread Pablo de Vicente
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El Jueves, 13 de Marzo de 2003 22:08, Charles de Miramon escribió:
 Le Jeudi 13 Mars 2003 20:47, John Goerzen a écrit :
  Any idea on why PyKDE is not in sid, and when it might be?  Is anyone
  working on it?
 
  -- John

 Jim Bublitz has not finished the PyKDE compatible with KDE 3.1
 (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/index.php).

 You can find information on the Debian packages of PyQT on
 http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes/

 Cheers,
 Charles

Hello,

 The binary packages by Ricardo Cardenes for Woody work fine in a pure Woody 
system but they do not work well with KDE 3.1.x because they need versions 
for Qt lower than 3.1.2. I mentioned about these problems to Ricardo, and we 
concluded that the newest Python Qt version would compile with Qt 3.1.2. So 
he prepared some deb sources from a snapshot of qscintilla, sip and 
python-qt3 from 03/march/2003. Since the sources are for Sid, they use a new 
version of debhelper and the control dependences are for Sid, I slightly 
modified them (with Ricardo's invaluable help) to make them compile in Woody 
and I have created some binary debs for a Woody system plus KDE 3.1 from Ralf 
Nolden. I offer the binaries in case somebody is interested but although they 
work fine for me I cannot offer support with these packages because I have 
zero experience in packaging.

  It would be great if Ralf could create binary debs from these deb sources  
and include them in the list of third part applications at ktown.kde.org. 
Ralf would you mind creating binaries for qscintilla, sip and python-qt3...?. 

The apt source is:

  deb-src http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes main-nolden main

As I have already written, some files need to be modified so that they compile 
in a woody system + KDE 3.1 from Ralf.

Pablo de Vicente.
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KDE 3.1 in Sarge?

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Fiedler
Hallo alle. 
Ich hätte da mal ne Frage.
Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der 
Source.list , da wo stable steht  testing hingeschrieben. -Dachte das ich 
da dann Sarge bekommen könnte.  -- War das Sarge?? oder habe ich da was 
anderes gezogen? 
Nun aber meine eigentliche Frage. Ich gehe mal davon aus das das Sarge war . 
Wann kommt den KDE 3.1 dort dazu??
..Thomas




Re: KDE 3.1.1 Status Report

2003-03-14 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
fredagen den 14 mars 2003 21.30 skrev John Gay:

 Wasn't there a comment on this list about Debian and Spaceballs that would
 be extremely appropriate to repeat just about now ;-)

As I did the mistake of prematurely building KDE 3.1.0, and then that version 
was withdrawn, giving me a version number trouble, this time I am wiser and 
wait until the real KDE 3.1.1 is very final. :-) 

Karolina




Re: KDE Usability survey

2003-03-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:19:06 +0100
Frank Van Damme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 People also seem to differ in their perception os speed - some find any 
 computer older then 2 years unbearably slow, others will say they don't 
 notice too much difference between a P200 and a GHz computer. 

To me KDE is usable exported over a 100Mbit ethernet.  Some people would
find it slow.  OTOH there are some cases when using such a remote display is
slow.  For example (not KDE related, but could be) I use Pan for binary
decodes.  The article list takes 2-3 seconds to load over the ether.  If I use
TightVNC with basic compression turns on it becomes usable again.  Wish I
could do that with X and exceed.  :/

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 19:16, Michael Peddemors wrote:
 The Printing source dealt with the libcupsys issue, but now we have still
 have a problem with 4 packages being held back. Probably cupsys problem but
 before I can get to that, getting an error. Ralf might be in the middle of
 more updates..

That may have happened exactly after I uploaded a new kdelibs build. Please 
someone report that this now works with a stock woody without the Printing 
section.

Ralf


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 apt-get upgrade
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages have been kept back
   cupsys samba-common smbclient smbfs

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Re: PyKDE packages?

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 21:42, Pablo de Vicente wrote:
 El Jueves, 13 de Marzo de 2003 22:08, Charles de Miramon escribió:
  Le Jeudi 13 Mars 2003 20:47, John Goerzen a écrit :
   Any idea on why PyKDE is not in sid, and when it might be?  Is anyone
   working on it?

Can't take care of that for the next week. I'm off for CeBIT tomorrow and I'm 
still not done with the KDE 3.1.1 packages plus being busy next week. I'll 
see what we can do after then.

Ralf
  
   -- John
 
  Jim Bublitz has not finished the PyKDE compatible with KDE 3.1
  (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/index.php).
 
  You can find information on the Debian packages of PyQT on
  http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes/
 
  Cheers,
  Charles

 Hello,

  The binary packages by Ricardo Cardenes for Woody work fine in a pure
 Woody system but they do not work well with KDE 3.1.x because they need
 versions for Qt lower than 3.1.2. I mentioned about these problems to
 Ricardo, and we concluded that the newest Python Qt version would compile
 with Qt 3.1.2. So he prepared some deb sources from a snapshot of
 qscintilla, sip and python-qt3 from 03/march/2003. Since the sources are
 for Sid, they use a new version of debhelper and the control dependences
 are for Sid, I slightly modified them (with Ricardo's invaluable help) to
 make them compile in Woody and I have created some binary debs for a Woody
 system plus KDE 3.1 from Ralf Nolden. I offer the binaries in case somebody
 is interested but although they work fine for me I cannot offer support
 with these packages because I have zero experience in packaging.

   It would be great if Ralf could create binary debs from these deb sources
 and include them in the list of third part applications at ktown.kde.org.
 Ralf would you mind creating binaries for qscintilla, sip and
 python-qt3...?.

 The apt source is:

   deb-src http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes main-nolden main

 As I have already written, some files need to be modified so that they
 compile in a woody system + KDE 3.1 from Ralf.

 Pablo de Vicente.

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Where do K3b and similar menu entries belong?

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Schuerig

I've just installed Jean-Michel Kelbert K3b package and when I wanted to 
try it, I had to look around for the menu entries in the Kicker menu. I 
finally found them in the System submenu.

I'm not aware of any Debian policy regarding CD-burning programs and in 
my opinion the main(!) K3b menu entry belongs somewhere else. I'm not 
delighted by Multimedia as it is in the original tarball, but I think 
that's better than System. K3b Setup, on the other hand, could be 
hidden even more in System/More Programs.

I didn't file a bug report as I think this matter deserves some 
discussion first.

Michael

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Re: KDE Usability survey

2003-03-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Freitag, 14. März 2003 22:18 schrieb Steve Lamb:
 To me KDE is usable exported over a 100Mbit ethernet.  Some people
 would find it slow.  OTOH there are some cases when using such a remote
 display is slow.  For example (not KDE related, but could be) I use Pan for
 binary decodes.  The article list takes 2-3 seconds to load over the ether.
  If I use TightVNC with basic compression turns on it becomes usable again.
  Wish I could do that with X and exceed.  :/

Did you try tunneling and compression with putty (ssh)?

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Re: Where do K3b and similar menu entries belong?

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Freitag, 14. März 2003 22:58, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
 On 03/03/14 at 16:56 Michael Schuerig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
  I'm not aware of any Debian policy regarding CD-burning programs and in
  my opinion the main(!) K3b menu entry belongs somewhere else. I'm not
  delighted by Multimedia as it is in the original tarball, but I think
  that's better than System. K3b Setup, on the other hand, could be
  hidden even more in System/More Programs.

 I put it there, because I see that xcdroast also go there.

Both it more or less wrong. You should make the original author place his 
desktop file where it belongs, i.e. multimedia.

Ralf

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Re: Where do K3b and similar menu entries belong?

2003-03-14 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Friday 14 March 2003 23:46, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 On Freitag, 14. März 2003 22:58, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
  On 03/03/14 at 16:56 Michael Schuerig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
   I'm not aware of any Debian policy regarding CD-burning programs
   and in my opinion the main(!) K3b menu entry belongs somewhere
   else. I'm not delighted by Multimedia as it is in the original
   tarball, but I think that's better than System. K3b Setup, on
   the other hand, could be hidden even more in System/More
   Programs.
 
  I put it there, because I see that xcdroast also go there.

 Both it more or less wrong. You should make the original author place
 his desktop file where it belongs, i.e. multimedia.

That's where he put it.

But do you think that K3b Setup belongs in multimedia, too? I don't 
think so -- for one thing, it requires root privileges to run. Thus my 
suggestion to put it into System/More Programs (i.e. 
/usr/share/applnk/System/More/k3bsetup.desktop).

Michael

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Florian Blaser
 That may have happened exactly after I uploaded a new kdelibs build. Please
 someone report that this now works with a stock woody without the Printing
 section.
It seems to work without a hitch here ! Thanks for your work.

Best regards,
Florian





Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?

2003-03-14 Thread Anders Ellenshj Andersen
On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote:
 Hallo alle.
 Ich hätte da mal ne Frage.
 Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der
 Source.list , da wo stable steht  testing hingeschrieben. -Dachte das

Ich spreche nicht zu viel Deutch aber Ich möchte gern sagen das es ist einer 
slechtes ide sarge zum brauchen. Es wird nicht opdatirt für viele monaten. 
Kein sicherheits opdatirung oder anderes. KDE will nicht in sarge gehen zum 6 
monaten (mein estimat). Die bestes idee sind woody oder sid zum brauchen.

Anders

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Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?

2003-03-14 Thread Jan Schumacher
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On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote:
 Hallo alle.

Hi,

 Ich hätte da mal ne Frage.

auf der Liste wird meistens Englisch geschrieben, weswegen Dich viele auf 
Deutsch nicht verstehen werden. Deine Fragen im Folgenden sind auf der Liste 
bereits beantwortet, so dass Dir das Archiv weiterhelfen könnte. Für den 
Fall, dass Du mit der Sprache Schwierigkeiten hast die Kurzversion:

 Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der
 Source.list , da wo stable steht  testing hingeschrieben. -Dachte das
 ich da dann Sarge bekommen könnte.  -- War das Sarge?? oder habe ich da was
 anderes gezogen?

Das ist z.Zt. Sarge, also die nächste Distribution. Unstable wird Sid genannt.

 Nun aber meine eigentliche Frage. Ich gehe mal davon aus das das Sarge war
 . Wann kommt den KDE 3.1 dort dazu??

Das kann Dir keiner beantworten. KDE3.1 ist inzwischen größtenteils in Sid. 
Wenn Du aber nur wegen KDE auf Testing gewechselt hast, würde ich Dir 
empfehlen es nocheinmal mit Woody zu versuchen und Ralf Noldens Backport zu 
verwenden. Diesen findest Du mit:

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main

Gruß
Jan

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Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?

2003-03-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 01:23 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
 On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote:
  Hallo alle.
  Ich hätte da mal ne Frage.
  Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der
  Source.list , da wo stable steht  testing hingeschrieben. -Dachte das

 Ich spreche nicht zu viel Deutch aber Ich möchte gern sagen das es ist
 einer slechtes ide sarge zum brauchen. Es wird nicht opdatirt für viele
 monaten. Kein sicherheits opdatirung oder anderes. KDE will nicht in sarge
 gehen zum 6 monaten (mein estimat). Die bestes idee sind woody oder sid zum
 brauchen.

Too switch back to english: it is not correct that sarge was not updated for a 
long time. In fact, there was a big upgrade to libc-2.3.1 lately that also 
pulled in LOTS of other packages.

HS

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Josh Metzler
On Friday, March 14, 2003 04:34 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 On Freitag, 14. März 2003 19:16, Michael Peddemors wrote:
  The Printing source dealt with the libcupsys issue, but now we have still
  have a problem with 4 packages being held back. Probably cupsys problem
  but before I can get to that, getting an error. Ralf might be in the
  middle of more updates..

 That may have happened exactly after I uploaded a new kdelibs build. Please
 someone report that this now works with a stock woody without the Printing
 section.

 Ralf

Worked for me.  I had to remove kdepim-libs, kaddressbook, and libkcal2 (I 
think that was it), because of conflicting packages, but you had already 
mentioned this would need to be done.

Thanks for all the work you put into packaging KDE.

Josh Metzler




Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 15. März 2003 02:51, Josh Metzler wrote:
 On Friday, March 14, 2003 04:34 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
  On Freitag, 14. März 2003 19:16, Michael Peddemors wrote:
   The Printing source dealt with the libcupsys issue, but now we have
   still have a problem with 4 packages being held back. Probably cupsys
   problem but before I can get to that, getting an error. Ralf might be
   in the middle of more updates..
 
  That may have happened exactly after I uploaded a new kdelibs build.
  Please someone report that this now works with a stock woody without the
  Printing section.
 
  Ralf

 Worked for me.  I had to remove kdepim-libs, kaddressbook, and libkcal2 (I
 think that was it), because of conflicting packages, but you had already
 mentioned this would need to be done.
Yes, that was libkcal2 and libgnatt0 for me. Other people might have had also 
a conflict with kdelibs4 and kdelibs4-dev.

Good to hear everything works so far :-)

Ralf



 Thanks for all the work you put into packaging KDE.

 Josh Metzler

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Re: Where do K3b and similar menu entries belong?

2003-03-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Samstag, 15. März 2003 00:40, Michael Schuerig wrote:
 On Friday 14 March 2003 23:46, Ralf Nolden wrote:
  On Freitag, 14. März 2003 22:58, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
   On 03/03/14 at 16:56 Michael Schuerig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
I'm not aware of any Debian policy regarding CD-burning programs
and in my opinion the main(!) K3b menu entry belongs somewhere
else. I'm not delighted by Multimedia as it is in the original
tarball, but I think that's better than System. K3b Setup, on
the other hand, could be hidden even more in System/More
Programs.
  
   I put it there, because I see that xcdroast also go there.
 
  Both it more or less wrong. You should make the original author place
  his desktop file where it belongs, i.e. multimedia.

 That's where he put it.

 But do you think that K3b Setup belongs in multimedia, too? I don't
 think so -- for one thing, it requires root privileges to run. Thus my
 suggestion to put it into System/More Programs (i.e.
 /usr/share/applnk/System/More/k3bsetup.desktop).

One thing is that I think that moving a desktop file because you think it's 
better here than there is a bad idea. System doesn't necessarily mean that a 
program requires being root either. If I want to burn a CD I would look into 
multimedia, too :-)

Ralf

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KDE 3.1 installation help || bare bones

2003-03-14 Thread Metnetsky
I am running an absolutely base bare-bones install of Debian from the
b42.4 binary.  What do I need to get KDE 3.1 up and running?  Probably a
packed question, but it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
advance.

~ Matthew




Re: Where do K3b and similar menu entries belong?

2003-03-14 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert
On 03/03/14 at 17:47 Ralf Nolden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 Both it more or less wrong. You should make the original author place his 
 desktop file where it belongs, i.e. multimedia.

You may be rigth, it has its place in multimedia. I will made a new
version against libvorbis on tuesday and solve this problem too.
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Jean-Michel Kelbert


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