Re: Plasma 6 in Debian?
Le 26 avril 2024 10:05:19 GMT+02:00, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > >Members of the Debian Qt/KDE team are working on packages and uploading to >experimental since quite a while already. Most of them KF6 related. Due to >new names most, if not all, of them need to go through NEW. Those appear >to get accepted by ftpmasters quite smoothly at the moment, but it still >needs additional time. Yes, and we're making good progress on kf6 thanks to the sustained effort of Patrick Franz in particular. >Also AFAIR there an updated set of KF5 packages needs to go to unstable >first. I think it was due to some packages need to be provided as 5 and 6 >versions and some missing features in the older KF5 packages currently in >Debian preventing that, but I am not sure I got the exact explanation >right. The exact reason is that the previous kf5 versions were not all co-installable with their kf6 counterparts. We want to have kf5 and kf6 co-installable to avoid breaking everything so we need the lastest version of kf5 to go in first. >To summarize all of this in a short way: From what I have read it is to >early to predict when Plasma 6 will hit Debian unstable. Yes, that's it. It's coming and will be ready when it's ready. Happy hacking, -- Aurélien
Re: Re: Plasma 6 in Debian?
Martin Steigerwald on Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:05:19 +0200 wrote *> Mostly unblocked? While there are quite some transitions at 100% more are scheduled* *> and there are still uninstallable / not upgradeable packages* I meant mostly that dpkg and curl, which were huge blockers, were just unblocked and most packages started moving. I think Debian developers mentioned all this should not discourage new uploads now, but it's understandable that it might be easier to do when "dust settles" so to say. Thanks for clarifying the current situation. I wasn't sure if KDE Debian team were waiting for this time_t transition to cool down or not to work on packaging Plasma 6. Regards, Shmerl.
Re: Plasma 6 in Debian?
Hi. Shmerl - 25.04.24, 23:05:06 CEST: > Now that the 64-bit time_t transition is mostly unblocked, will we see > Plasma 6 packaged soon? Mostly unblocked? While there are quite some transitions at 100% more are scheduled and there are still uninstallable / not upgradeable packages¹. The churn of what might be the biggest and longest "we break everything and then some for the greater good" transformation of Debian I remember is still not fully settled. Members of the Debian Qt/KDE team are working on packages and uploading to experimental since quite a while already. Most of them KF6 related. Due to new names most, if not all, of them need to go through NEW. Those appear to get accepted by ftpmasters quite smoothly at the moment, but it still needs additional time. Also AFAIR there an updated set of KF5 packages needs to go to unstable first. I think it was due to some packages need to be provided as 5 and 6 versions and some missing features in the older KF5 packages currently in Debian preventing that, but I am not sure I got the exact explanation right. To summarize all of this in a short way: From what I have read it is to early to predict when Plasma 6 will hit Debian unstable. At the moment as far as I have seen KF6 is not yet completed. Then you need Plasma 6 and enough of KDE Gear 6 for it to make sense. Unfortunately asking "when it may be" does not speed up the process. If you can offer some help, I'd recommend to drop by in their chat and ask where you could help most efficiently. I answered this to the best of my knowledge from what I have seen in IRC chat of the team and in Debian's devel-changes mailing list. Hopefully this will save team members some time for answering here that they can spend on packaging work or for recreational purposes – it is understandable that someone does not choose to use 100% of their free time for packaging work :). They are all doing it in their spare time and writing an explanatory mail like this also takes time. Please correct if any of the above is not accurate. [1] https://release.debian.org/transitions/ Best, -- Martin
Plasma 6 in Debian?
Now that the 64-bit time_t transition is mostly unblocked, will we see Plasma 6 packaged soon? Thanks! Shmerl.
