[SOLVED, kind of] Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-12 Thread local10 
Oct 12, 2018, 12:23 PM by luigi.tosc...@tiscali.it:

> Kate can't run directly as root, but there is a way to edit files a root:
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D4634 
> https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/02/editing-files-as-root 
> 
>

Your post game me some ideas, and I tried to run Kcalc as root and it worked[1] 
just fine. So it looks like KDE is simply preventing some apps to be run as 
root yet allowing others. What can I say... I wish the error message would've 
been phrased better, at least giving the user some ideas as to what is 
happening instead of generic "KDEInit could not launch...".

Regards,


[1] - After running "kwriteconfig5 --file kdesurc --group super-user-command 
--key super-user-command su" as it was suggested by yaros

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-12 Thread local10 
Oct 12, 2018, 11:08 AM by yaro...@posteo.net:

> I can run applications as a root in buster. I have some applications 
> launchers (partitionmanager, luckybacku) with checked option "Run as a 
> different user" root and it works...
>

Thanks. That's pretty much what I did.

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-12 Thread Luigi Toscano 

local10 ha scritto:

Oct 11, 2018, 4:08 PM by mar...@lichtvoll.de:


lI simply have not tried and I see no reason to try it.



I don't do it often myself but occasionally it is useful, for example if I need 
to quickly browse through or compare a lot of files with root permissions or I 
need to make a lot of changes in a file with root perms  and I want use a 
decent editor like Kate while doing it.



It looks like you are referring to two specific programs, Dolphin and Kate.

Dolphin can be run (again) as root (with su, not sudo) since 18.08.0 
(currently in testing) with big warning, waiting for the feature which will 
allow users to browse all files even without running the whole program as root.


Kate can't run directly as root, but there is a way to edit files a root:
https://phabricator.kde.org/D4634
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/02/editing-files-as-root/

--
Luigi

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-12 Thread local10 
Oct 11, 2018, 4:08 PM by mar...@lichtvoll.de:

> lI simply have not tried and I see no reason to try it.
>

I don't do it often myself but occasionally it is useful, for example if I need 
to quickly browse through or compare a lot of files with root permissions or I 
need to make a lot of changes in a file with root perms  and I want use a 
decent editor like Kate while doing it.

Regards,

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-12 Thread yaros 
Dnia czwartek, 11 października 2018 17:10:29 CEST local10 pisze:
> Oct 4, 2018, 4:31 PM by loca...@tutanota.com:
> 
> > Oct 4, 2018, 3:54 PM by > yaro...@posteo.net > :
> >
> >> Do you have kdesu in location from error message 
> >> (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/)? Is it executable?
> >>
> > Yes and yes.
> >
> 
> More info: I can open Konsole, run "su - root" and switch to  root user 
> without any issues. Also, I appreciate all the suggestions but my original 
> questions have never been answered:
> 
> Has anyone been able to run an app, any app, as root in Buster KDE? If yes, 
> how do you do it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
I can run applications as a root in buster. I have some applications launchers 
(partitionmanager, luckybacku) with checked option "Run as a different user" 
root and it works...


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Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald 
local10 - 11.10.18, 17:10:
> Has anyone been able to run an app, any app, as root in Buster KDE? If
> yes, how do you do it?

I simply have not tried and I see no reason to try it.

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Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-11 Thread local10 
Oct 4, 2018, 4:31 PM by loca...@tutanota.com:

> Oct 4, 2018, 3:54 PM by > yaro...@posteo.net > :
>
>> Do you have kdesu in location from error message 
>> (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/)? Is it executable?
>>
> Yes and yes.
>

More info: I can open Konsole, run "su - root" and switch to  root user without 
any issues. Also, I appreciate all the suggestions but my original questions 
have never been answered:

Has anyone been able to run an app, any app, as root in Buster KDE? If yes, how 
do you do it?

Thanks

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-04 Thread local10 
Oct 4, 2018, 3:54 PM by yaro...@posteo.net:

> Do you have kdesu in location from error message 
> (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/)? Is it executable?
>
Yes and yes.

# ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56800 Sep  6 14:40 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu

# ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/
total 612
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Oct  1 06:26 discover
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    12 Aug 17 10:17 filesharelist -> fileshareset
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11019 Aug  4 06:57 fileshareset
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73064 Aug 17 10:18 kconf_update
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   993 Sep  4 06:05 kdeeject
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56800 Sep  6 14:40 kdesu
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 81112 Aug 17 10:18 kdesud
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19032 Aug 17 10:18 kdesu_stub
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27392 Aug 17 10:18 kiod5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60792 Aug 17 10:18 kioexec
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56568 Aug 17 10:18 kio_http_cache_cleaner
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14704 Aug 17 10:18 kioslave
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14440 Aug 17 10:18 klauncher
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14632 Aug 17 10:18 kpac_dhcp_helper
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Sep 26 19:32 kpackagehandlers
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60224 Aug 19 17:18 kscreen_backend_launcher
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 39912 Aug 17 10:19 ksendbugmail
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 35960 Aug 17 10:19 purposeprocess
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14648 Aug 17 10:18 start_kdeinit
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14504 Aug 17 10:18 start_kdeinit_wrapper

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-04 Thread yaros 
Dnia czwartek, 4 października 2018 20:12:15 CEST local10 pisze:
> Oct 4, 2018, 11:02 AM by yaro...@posteo.net:
> 
> > Check if you have installed:
> > libkdesu5
> > libkf5su-bin
> > libkf5su-data
> > libkf5su5
> >
> 
> Yes, I have them all installed. Basically, I have installed kde-standard with 
> all the recommended packages, so if a package is a part of kde-standard (plus 
> the recommended packages) then I have it. Thanks
> 
> 
> # aptitude show libkdesu5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 | grep -i 
> "package\|state\|automatically"
> Package: libkdesu5
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: yes
> This package is part of the KDE Development Platform libraries module.
> Package: libkf5su-bin
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: yes
> Package: libkf5su-data
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: yes
> Package: libkf5su5
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: yes
> 
> 
Do you have kdesu in location from error message 
(/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/)? Is it executable?


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Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-04 Thread local10 
Oct 4, 2018, 11:02 AM by yaro...@posteo.net:

> Check if you have installed:
> libkdesu5
> libkf5su-bin
> libkf5su-data
> libkf5su5
>

Yes, I have them all installed. Basically, I have installed kde-standard with 
all the recommended packages, so if a package is a part of kde-standard (plus 
the recommended packages) then I have it. Thanks


# aptitude show libkdesu5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 | grep -i 
"package\|state\|automatically"
Package: libkdesu5
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
This package is part of the KDE Development Platform libraries module.
Package: libkf5su-bin
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Package: libkf5su-data
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Package: libkf5su5
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-04 Thread yaros 
Dnia czwartek, 4 października 2018 07:27:48 CEST local10 pisze:
> Oct 3, 2018, 3:00 AM by w...@debian.org:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:56:51AM +0200, local10 wrote:
> >
> >> Now when I try to run Kwrite  as root (just for test purposes) it no 
> >> longer  hangs but immediately fails with the following error message:
> >>
> >>KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu'
> >>
> > Install kde-cli-tools.
> >
> 
> I've already had them installed:
> 
> # aptitude search  kde-cli-tools
> i A kde-cli-tools 
> - tools to use KDE services from the 
> command line  
>   
> i A kde-cli-tools-data
> - tools to use kioslaves from the 
> command line 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Check if you have installed:
libkdesu5
libkf5su-bin
libkf5su-data
libkf5su5


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Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-03 Thread local10 
Oct 3, 2018, 3:00 AM by w...@debian.org:

> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:56:51AM +0200, local10 wrote:
>
>> Now when I try to run Kwrite  as root (just for test purposes) it no longer  
>> hangs but immediately fails with the following error message:
>>
>>    KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu'
>>
> Install kde-cli-tools.
>

I've already had them installed:

# aptitude search  kde-cli-tools
i A kde-cli-tools   
  - tools to use KDE services from the 
command line

i A kde-cli-tools-data  
  - tools to use kioslaves from the command 
line 

Regards,

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin 
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:56:51AM +0200, local10 wrote:
> Now when I try to run Kwrite  as root (just for test purposes) it no longer  
> hangs but immediately fails with the following error message:
> 
>    KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu'
Install kde-cli-tools.

-- 
WBR, wRAR


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Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-03 Thread local10 
Oct 2, 2018, 11:12 AM by yaro...@posteo.net:

>
> Try this (command as user, not root):
>
>
>  
>
>
> kwriteconfig5 --file kdesurc --group super-user-command --key 
> super-user-command su
>
>
>  
>
>
> That makes su default super user command instead sudo. (source: > 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo#kdesu 
> > )
>
>

Now when I try to run Kwrite  as root (just for test purposes) it no longer  
hangs but immediately fails with the following error message:

   KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kf5/kdesu'

Thanks

Re: Buster: Has anyone been able to run an app as root in KDE?

2018-10-02 Thread yaros 
Dnia wtorek, 2 października 2018 05:40:37 CEST local10 pisze:
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone been able to run an app, any app, as root in KDE? If yes, how do 
> you do it? I tried the following approach with several apps  but it did not 
> work for me:
> 
> 1. Select an application launcher (tried it with Kwrite, Konqueror) > RMB 
> click > Edit launcher (or Edit Application) > Application > Advanced Options 
> > User > [X] check Run as a different user > User name > root
> 
> 2. Launch the app, it launches, asks for the (root) password, enter the 
> password, click OK, the app just sits there for several minutes. Trying to 
> close the Enter password window results in "Application kdesu is not 
> responding" and offers to terminate application kdesu. I can terminate it but 
> that's about it.
> 
> Thanks
> 

Hi,

Try this (command as user, not root):

kwriteconfig5 --file kdesurc --group super-user-command --key 
super-user-command su

That makes su default super user command instead sudo. (source: 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo#kdesu)



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