Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-30 Thread Horms
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:52:54AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:53:09AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 09:58:16AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: kowari:~# hdparm -t /dev/hd{a,g}{,} /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing buffered

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-29 Thread Joshua Kwan
Sven Luther wrote: I asked because another guy (with a piix chipset though), was claiming that his chipset was not detected, and thus that dma was not activated. If he was using 2.4.27 tell him to use 2.4.26 for now. As I've mentioned in other mails I just fixed 2.4.27, in trunk. -- Joshua Kwan

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Sven Luther
] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge Raphael Hertzog wrote: Quoting Joey Hess: 15. Get ftp-master to remove kernel udebs for the old kernel version from testing. This will *break* some old released install media (floppy, netboot, not cdrom), but it's necessary before

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread dann frazier
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:58:06PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: There was no final decision if we ship 2.4.27 with sarge. I wonder what needs to happen to have a formal d-k decision. Do other subgroups of Debian have a mechanism for this? Maybe we need a designated person or persons who can

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:24:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 09:25:20PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:58:06PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: There was no final decision if we ship 2.4.27 with sarge. I wonder what needs to happen to have a

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-27 21:25]: The only thing questionable about it, afaict, is the ide dma issue[1], which appears to have been a problem with our patch set[2], so should be resolvable. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/08/msg00790.html [2]

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread John Summerfield
Steve Langasek wrote: We depend on the experts (the kernel team) for the information we need in order to make good decisions -- or better, to help *you* make good decisions. Based on this thread and other discussions, I understand that the current 2.4.26 packages are unsuitable for release because

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread John Summerfield
kowari:~# hdparm -t /dev/hd{a,g}{,} /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing buffered disk reads: 120 MB in 3.02 seconds = 39.74 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. One thing to bear in mind when making this

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:53:09AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:48:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:35:16PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 02:06:46PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: Various tasks are in a hold pattern until this decision is made (ensuring that d-i uses the proper kernel, removal of other kernel packages from sarge, rebuilding of some packages to fix build-dep

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: It will be 2.6.8. If you write 2.6.8, do you mean 2.6.8.1? Or is the diff to .1 included in the Debian packages? I cannot find a hint and the version number is misleading. Given the diff to .1 is tiny and four-digit version

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:00:47PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Christoph Hellwig writes: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: It will be 2.6.8. If you write 2.6.8, do you mean 2.6.8.1? Or is the diff to .1 included in the Debian packages? I cannot find

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:10:55PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Sven Luther wrote: All here who have 2.4 and 2.6 kernels on ppc should try disk speed tests with hdparm: I found my new Athlon (well the mobo's new, CPU's not) is 30% faster with the 2.4 kernel. Have you reported a

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 02:06:46PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: Various tasks are in a hold pattern until this decision is made (ensuring that d-i uses the proper kernel, removal of other kernel packages from sarge, rebuilding of some packages to fix build-dep

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread John Summerfield
Sven Luther wrote: fwiw I noticed something very like this between 2.2 and 2.4 when 2.4 was new: 2.2 was faster on my Pentium system. I think it was a earlier version of the same chipset. Here are results on 2.6.7-1-k7: /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 108 MB in 3.02 seconds = 35.78

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Quoting Joey Hess: 15. Get ftp-master to remove kernel udebs for the old kernel version from testing. This will *break* some old released install media (floppy, netboot, not cdrom), but it's necessary before release. Why is this necessary ? I'm a bit worried that rc1 netinst images do

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Tretkowski wrote: [snip] I'm going to upload an updated kernel-image-2.4.26-alpha package next weekend, please make sure you're using this one, because it'll be build against kernel-source-2.4.26 2.4.26-6, which fixes some security issues. ... not

RE: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread peter green
-Original Message- From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 August 2004 22:59 To: debian-release@lists.debian.org; debian-boot@lists.debian.org; debian-kernel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge Raphael Hertzog wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:35:16PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-26 Thread Joey Hess
dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. One thing to bear in mind when

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-26 Thread Kenshi Muto
Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. On a similar note, it has been known for