Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-08-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:58:51PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > I think Andres already fixed this, but i will let him comment on this. > They need to be unique per debian architecture. Bah, no, it is not fixed, it just generated duplicated package entries. But it is rather easy fixable. Bastia

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-08-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 03:19:05PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Andres Salomon wrote: > > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > > everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. > > > > The curr

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-08-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:58:51PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:24:14PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > General problems: > > > - The 2.6 (instead of 2.6.12 etc.) versioning means previous versions > > > are thrown out of the archive, anything which isn't ready until t

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-08-22 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:24:14PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > General problems: > > - The 2.6 (instead of 2.6.12 etc.) versioning means previous versions > > are thrown out of the archive, anything which isn't ready until then > > will lose support. > > It is IMHO not realistic to expect t

Re: linux-kernel-di udebs [Was: Re: 2.6.12 upload]

2005-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 06:18:28PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:49:01PM +0900, Horms wrote: > >> I tend to aggree, though I believe Franz Pop, or perhaps some of the > >> other d-i team members have reason for keepi

linux-kernel-di udebs [Was: Re: 2.6.12 upload]

2005-07-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:49:01PM +0900, Horms wrote: >> I tend to aggree, though I believe Franz Pop, or perhaps some of the >> other d-i team members have reason for keeping these images separate. >> Perhaps they could reiterate them here. > > Mostly

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-28 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:49:01PM +0900, Horms wrote: > I tend to aggree, though I believe Franz Pop, or perhaps some of the > other d-i team members have reason for keeping these images separate. > Perhaps they could reiterate them here. Mostly two reasons: - Changes in the d-i packages don't tr

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The problem is that the DAK will update linux-2.6, kernel-tree-x.y.z-n > and kernel-image packages without any regards to linux-kernel-di. They > will become out of sync and end up without source -> GPL violation. Last I check

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-28 Thread Horms
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 11:20:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We seem to be running around in circles here. If an image package > > depends on kernel-tree-x.y.z-N, then kernel-source-x.y.z can be > > updated and the image can still be rebuilt, verb

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We seem to be running around in circles here. If an image package > depends on kernel-tree-x.y.z-N, then kernel-source-x.y.z can be > updated and the image can still be rebuilt, verbatim. > > Let me try and illustrate by example: > > * kernel-source-2.6.8 versio

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-27 Thread Horms
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:22:09PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:23:05PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow w

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:23:05PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Horms
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:23:05PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow w

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 20:00, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > daily builds aren't that big of a deal. If one fails because of a > kernel change, you update the config and build it manually or the next > day. This is already what happens with a change in the build-deps (at > least, if you're not watchin

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:24:43PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Really it's just creating udebs with the kernel and specific modules. >> >> That would solve a lot of problems, including t

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:24:43PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Really it's just creating udebs with the kernel and specific modules. > > That would solve a lot of problems, including the GPL one. The debs > and udebs would update at the

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephen R Marenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> The DI kernel udebs (linux-kernel-di- source) takes the >>

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> The DI kernel udebs (linux-kernel-di- source) takes the >> >> kernel-i

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> The DI kernel udebs (linux-kernel-di- source) takes the > >> kernel-image deb, splits it up into kernel and sev

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Horms
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:26:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> The DI kernel udebs (linux-kernel-di- source) takes the > >> kernel-image deb, splits it up into kernel and sev

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> The DI kernel udebs (linux-kernel-di- source) takes the >> kernel-image deb, splits it up into kernel and several groups of >> modules and builds udebs. There is no Depends there and can't

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:17:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > Andres Salomon wrote: > >> > [snip] > >> >> > It is IM

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:03:39PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Andres Salomon wrote: > [snip] > > >> - Dependencies with arch spec for one-arch packages. > > > > > > Right, the control file is full of the packages with control fields like > > > this: > > > > > > Architecture: powerpc > > > Dep

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:08:59AM +0200, Horms wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:20:31PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:55:42 +0300, Horms wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > > [...] > > >> - i'm leaning towards using gcc

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:17:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Andres Salomon wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> > It is IMHO not realistic to expect the rest of the world to wait for >> >> > some obscure su

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-20 Thread Horms
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:56:01AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:55:42 +0300, Horms wrote: > > [...] > > > I need to do something about the fact that users go and > > grab kernel-source-2.4.27 and it doesn't compile with the > > default gcc any more. Here are three solutio

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-20 Thread Horms
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:17:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Andres Salomon wrote: > > [snip] > >> > It is IMHO not realistic to expect the rest of the world to wait for > >> > some obscure subarchitecture. > >> > >> Who said we're go

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andres Salomon wrote: > [snip] >> > It is IMHO not realistic to expect the rest of the world to wait for >> > some obscure subarchitecture. >> >> Who said we're going to wait for some obscure subarchitecture? We're >> going to keep working on kerne

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:03:39 +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: >> The bootloader dependencies need to be per flavour. It makes no sense >> to depend on N bootloaders for an architecture where N-1 are unusable >> for the specific flavour's kernel image. >> >>

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-19 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:36:38 -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: >>> Hm, anything I'm forgetting? >> >> - The scripts dir in the linux-headers package must match the flavour. > > The problem h

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-19 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:55:42 +0300, Horms wrote: [...] > I need to do something about the fact that users go and > grab kernel-source-2.4.27 and it doesn't compile with the > default gcc any more. Here are three solutions I have thought. > > 1. Document this somewhere > 2. Change the makefile to

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. > > The current changes and state of the pack

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Horms
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 12:29:47AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 04:55:42PM +0300, Horms wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > > > So, unless anyone has any c

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Horms
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:20:31PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:55:42 +0300, Horms wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > [...] > >> - i'm leaning towards using gcc-3.3, as i'm afraid of gcc-4.0 > >> miscompiling things. howev

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andres Salomon wrote: [snip] > >> - Dependencies with arch spec for one-arch packages. > > > > Right, the control file is full of the packages with control fields like > > this: > > > > Architecture: powerpc > > Depends: initrd-tools (>= 0.1.78), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), > > module-init-

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andres Salomon wrote: [snip] > > It is IMHO not realistic to expect the rest of the world to wait for > > some obscure subarchitecture. > > Who said we're going to wait for some obscure subarchitecture? We're > going to keep working on kernels until we freeze for etch, at which point > the su

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:03:39 +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Andres Salomon wrote: > [snip] >> >> - Dependencies with arch spec for one-arch packages. >> > >> > Right, the control file is full of the packages with control fields like >> > this: >> > >> > Architecture: powerpc >> > Depends: initrd

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:19:05 +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Andres Salomon wrote: >> Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. >> So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume >> everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. >> >> The current change

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:15:39 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: >> Hm, anything I'm forgetting? [...] > - The shell-code is unreadable. So fix it? :) I'm still planning on using cdbs2 for packaging in the long term, anyways. The single-s

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:36:38 -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: >>> Hm, anything I'm forgetting? >> >> - The scripts dir in the linux-headers package must match the flavour. > > The problem h

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:55:42 +0300, Horms wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: [...] >> - i'm leaning towards using gcc-3.3, as i'm afraid of gcc-4.0 >> miscompiling things. however, if any architectures require gcc-4.0, >> either let me know, or upda

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andres Salomon wrote: > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. > > The current changes and state of the packaging: > - source package is called linu

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 12:36:38AM -0400, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Bastian Blank wrote: > >- The descriptions are wrong for non-i386. > > I am not too happy with how the decscription stuff turned out. I think > that the boilerplate descriptions should be generated only if the cu

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: Hm, anything I'm forgetting? - The scripts dir in the linux-headers package must match the flavour. The problem here is that some architectures (s390, powerpc and mips) are using two d

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 04:15:39AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > - linux-headers-.*-all is no dummy package. Bah, this package is not built anyway. Bastian -- You can't evaluate a man by logic alone. -- McCoy, "I, Mudd", stardate 4513.3 signature.asc Description: Digital signa

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > Hm, anything I'm forgetting? - The scripts dir in the linux-headers package must match the flavour. - The descriptions are wrong for non-i386. - Dependencies with arch spec for one-arch packages. - linux-headers-.*-all is no dummy p

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 04:55:42PM +0300, Horms wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > > everything's a go for u

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Andres Salomon wrote: > - there are 3 patches that were in 2.6.11 that have been dropped due to > lack of interest; sparc, alpha, and powerpc folks should determine > their value, at some point. The dropped alpha patch is no longer required with 2.6.12, at least on my systems the kernel work

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:53:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Was amd64 support merged in or do we still do a seperate amd64 image >> package? > > Amd64 support is part of this package since the very beginning. :-) > > Best rega

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Horms
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:39:55PM +0300, Andres Salomon wrote: > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. Excellent > The current changes and state of

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:53:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Was amd64 support merged in or do we still do a seperate amd64 image > package? Amd64 support is part of this package since the very beginning. :-) Best regards Frederik Schueler -- ENOSIG signature.asc Descriptio

Re: 2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. > So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume > everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. Was amd64 support merged in or do we still do a seperate amd64 im

2.6.12 upload

2005-07-16 Thread Andres Salomon
Alright folks, I think the packaging is ready to be beaten on by people. So, unless anyone has any concerns/problems/etc, I'm going to assume everything's a go for uploading 2.6.12. The current changes and state of the packaging: - source package is called linux-2.6 - binary image packages ha