Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-08-20 Thread Andres Salomon
Hi, Here's a use case where having initramfs-tools unconditionally update initramfs images is a bad thing (at the very least, violating the principal of least surprise). I had a machine that was had a poorly supported sata_mv chipset; dapper nor sarge w/ 2.6.15/2.6.16 images would install onto

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-08-20 Thread maximilian attems
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 04:25:53PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: Here's a use case where having initramfs-tools unconditionally update initramfs images is a bad thing (at the very least, violating the principal of least surprise). you use an plural, which is wrong. initramfs-tools updates the

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-08-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:26:32 +0200 maximilian attems wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 04:25:53PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: I had a machine that was had a poorly supported sata_mv chipset; dapper nor sarge w/ 2.6.15/2.6.16 images would install onto it. I had to make a custom cd w/

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-19 Thread maximilian attems
posting our irc conversation with mdz about current update-initramfs calls: 21:29 maks mdz: do you remember why you added to initramfs-tools the update-initramfs call? 21:30 maks more precisely to the postinst 21:30 * vorlon perks up 21:30 maks the changelog has no notice to an bug report.

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 09:24:22PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: Having evms call update-initramfs at install time is completely gratuitous, because the system *won't* be set up for evms at the time of the evms postinst: either the update-initramfs will be a complete no-op and have to be

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-14 Thread maximilian attems
initramfs differs from initrd as it's no fs, but just an archive. you can easily append stuff to it that wasn't inside yet. On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:18:59PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: snipp severity discussion, rm speaks by design

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-14 Thread Jeff Bailey
Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 21:24 +0200, maximilian attems a crit: Having evms call update-initramfs at install time is completely gratuitous, because the system *won't* be set up for evms at the time of the evms postinst: either the update-initramfs will be a complete no-op and have to

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2006-04-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
severity 362064 grave thanks Hi, I issue is not whther or not the initramfs has to be changed, nor whether in this particular instance nothing bad happened. The issue is silently changing a critical subsyten silently, where a bug in initramfs-tools would potentially have made a

Re: Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 13 Apr 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, it is true I did not check the postinst; I just saw that error message _after_ I had gotten initramfs to install by hacking /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools.postisnt. What exactly was trying to

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2006-04-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Langasek
severity 362064 serious quit On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:29:06AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: __ sudo dpkg --configure udev Setting up udev (0.089-1) ... touch: cannot touch `/boot/initrd.img-2.6.16-selinux1-1-skas3-v9-pre9': Read-only file system /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line

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2006-04-13 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread maximilian attems
severity 362064 wishlist stop On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: severity 362064 serious quit i don't agree with the severity of this bug. i'll present my arguments below. been busy the last 2 weeks and see the other bug was escaleted too. i disagree with the severity of #358397

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:18:59 +0200 maximilian attems wrote: by design initramfs-tools needs that: a) allows each hook to add it's boot device detection scripts if you want evms root you simply install evms. thanks to it's initramfs hook you get evms root support. b) prevents races in

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:18:59PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: i don't agree with the severity of this bug. i'll present my arguments below. On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:29:06AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: We've had this conversation before on IRC, and I don't believe there is any

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2006-04-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 362064 initramfs-tools Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking Bug reassigned from package `udev' to `initramfs-tools'. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance

Bug#362064: udev: udev tries to write to an installed, working initrd without asking

2006-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 12 Apr 2006, Marco d'Itri stated: reassign 362064 initramfs-tools thanks On Apr 12, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is udev trying to write to a working boot mechanism without asking? Why do you believe that udev creates initramfs images? Hmm, it is true I did