Re: Linux kernel version for jessie

2014-07-31 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:32:55 Ben Hutchings wrote: This will be Linux 3.16, due to be released in early August. Release candidates for Linux 3.16 are already packaged and available in the experimental suite. Do you plan to back-port BTRFS changes to 3.16? I'm thinking of filing a bug report

Re: Linux kernel version for jessie

2014-07-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 20:08 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:32:55 Ben Hutchings wrote: This will be Linux 3.16, due to be released in early August. Release candidates for Linux 3.16 are already packaged and available in the experimental suite. Do you plan

Re: Linux kernel version for jessie

2014-07-31 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:35:55 Ben Hutchings wrote: I'm thinking of filing a bug report against the Debian-installer package to warn people about BTRFS. I don't believe that BTRFS in 3.15 is suitable for a typical Debian user and I don't know how good 3.16 will be. Do you think some

Re: Linux kernel version for jessie

2014-07-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 10:35 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:35:55 Ben Hutchings wrote: I'm thinking of filing a bug report against the Debian-installer package to warn people about BTRFS. I don't believe that BTRFS in 3.15 is suitable for a typical Debian user and I

Linux kernel version for jessie

2014-07-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
The Debian Linux kernel team has discussed and chosen the kernel version to use as a basis for Debian 8 'jessie'. This will be Linux 3.16, due to be released in early August. Release candidates for Linux 3.16 are already packaged and available in the experimental suite. If you maintain a

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 17:43 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] So we have a choice between: Linux 3.14-stable - Supported by Greg for about 2 years after release (March 2014) - As an official kernel.org branch, it is likely to get some more testing and review, and more backports from

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-21 Thread Luis Henriques
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:39:15PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 17:43 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] Linux 3.16-stable - Supported by Ubuntu kernel team for about 15-18 months after distro release (October 2014) [...] Note, that period is based on it being

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-20 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sun, 2014-07-20 at 01:44 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 22:19 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: OOI who is it that is going to be basing on 3.14? I don't know specifically, but he implied that consumer electronics companies would be using it in a lot of products. Thanks. So

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 17:43 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] Linux 3.16-stable - Supported by Ubuntu kernel team for about 15-18 months after distro release (October 2014) [...] Note, that period is based on it being provided as an alternate kernel for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. My understanding is

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:43:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] The earlier we freeze the kernel, the more work will be required to backport fixes and hardware enablement during the jessie support period. So I think that 3.16

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk schrieb: Ubuntu 14.10 is planned to use Linux 3.16, in which case Ubuntu will maintain a 3.16-stable branch (not blessed by kernel.org, but still following the same rules). So we have a choice between: Linux 3.14-stable - Supported by Greg for about 2

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 22:19 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 17:43 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] The earlier we freeze the kernel, the more work will be required to backport fixes and hardware enablement during

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] The earlier we freeze the kernel, the more work will be required to backport fixes and hardware enablement during the jessie support period. So I think that 3.16 would be the best fit. It is also very unlikely that a PREEMPT_RT

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-18 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:43:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Linux 3.14-stable - Supported by Greg for about 2 years after release (March 2014) - As an official kernel.org branch, it is likely to get some more testing and review,

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-18 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 17:43 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] The earlier we freeze the kernel, the more work will be required to backport fixes and hardware enablement during the jessie support period. So I think that 3.16 would be

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-07-18 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 22:41 +0200, maximilian attems wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:43:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Linux 3.14-stable - Supported by Greg for about 2 years after release (March 2014) - As an official

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-05-02 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Based on a linear regression of Linux release dates since 3.2, I extrapolated that the latest stable release at freeze time will likely be 3.17: http://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/tmp/linux-release-dates.svg. However, there will be little

Re: Kernel version for jessie

2014-05-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk schrieb: --=-7K30lQ4BLoJ3LSF2G3VV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Based on a linear regression of Linux release dates since 3.2, I extrapolated that the latest stable release at freeze time will likely

Kernel version for jessie

2014-05-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
Based on a linear regression of Linux release dates since 3.2, I extrapolated that the latest stable release at freeze time will likely be 3.17: http://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/tmp/linux-release-dates.svg. However, there will be little time for any necessary but disruptive fixes or packaging