Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-23 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Perhaps this could be solved with some kind of ticket system handling email to the official roles in debian? I'm not sure if BTS is the best option to handle emails to ftpmaster, leader and others. Perhaps request-tracker is a better option? We use it at work, and it s

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-22 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:06:19AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > And I believe that the Vancouver proposal, if implemented as intended up > to now, will not only affect what Debian really *is*, but in some ways > will *destroy* what Debian is. Debian has already decided to destroy what it is by g

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-22 Thread Humberto Massa
Sven Luther wrote: >Still i believe i have made some constructive proposals, and even if my >first posts may have been a bit too aggressive, for which i apologize, >or too many, i think it is also a prove of the passion which lies on >this issue. Something which has the potential to affect many of

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-22 Thread Frank Küster
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Sven Luther] >> No, he is not, as far as i am concerned, unless he presents his >> apologies first. > > For what? Commenting on your wast amount of email posted the last few > days, and his suggestion that the amount of email could make the > ftpm

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:28:44PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Sven Luther] > > No, he is not, as far as i am concerned, unless he presents his > > apologies first. > > For what? Commenting on your wast amount of email posted the last few > days, and his suggestion that the amount of ema

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 06:34:00PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > > I'm quite unhappy that this thread has turned so bad. Please, all of us > > who are part of this thread, can we please try to get the heat out. > > > I can't agree more. What I have seen up to now is make me very > sad. Seein

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther] > No, he is not, as far as i am concerned, unless he presents his > apologies first. For what? Commenting on your wast amount of email posted the last few days, and his suggestion that the amount of email could make the ftpmasters delete mails by mistake? I can not really believe t

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
> I'm quite unhappy that this thread has turned so bad. Please, all of us > who are part of this thread, can we please try to get the heat out. I can't agree more. What I have seen up to now is make me very sad. Seeing Sven considering to resign is sad news for me. I won't play the "others star

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Petter Reinholdtsen] > in later private emails. This was a misunderstanding on my part, due to the fact that I received the replies from Sven before I received the replies from Matthew. The fact that the replies were done on public lists and not in private email do not change how I react to thei

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:40:44PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Sven Luther] > > the problem is not the reject, is the no news in weeks and no > > communication channel open. But again, i think and hope that this > > will become better now. > > I agree. Complete silence and no feedback is

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther] > the problem is not the reject, is the no news in weeks and no > communication channel open. But again, i think and hope that this > will become better now. I agree. Complete silence and no feedback is a real problem when it happen, and only worse if it is an official debian role f

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:11:06PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Maybe, if one would reply to all mails you send out, one wouldn't have > time for ANY other Debian work. For example, you contributed 75 mails[1] > within 24 hours to the Vancouver thread, consisting (excluding quoted > text)

Re: *** SPAM *** Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:45:10PM +, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 04:08:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Thanks. Maybe i should resign from my debian duties then since i am not > > wanted. Do you volunteer to take over my packages ? Please handle parted for > > which i am

Re: *** SPAM *** Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 04:08:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Thanks. Maybe i should resign from my debian duties then since i am not > wanted. Do you volunteer to take over my packages ? Please handle parted for > which i am searching a co-maintainer since > 6 month, and take over the > powerpc k

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Andreas Barth
Dear, all, > [...] I'm quite unhappy that this thread has turned so bad. Please, all of us who are part of this thread, can we please try to get the heat out. I think we all are happy that ftp-masters and -assistents are currently working on reducing the NEW queue to a reasonable size. This wi

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Anyway, regarding kernels: I can imagine sometimes, especially with the > > backlog we have currently, a swift processing of some kernel package > > might be warranted and help Sarge. If there is such a case, it would > > help if some

Re: *** SPAM *** Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:10:34PM +, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Anyway, regarding kernels: I can imagine sometimes, especially with the > > > backlog we have currently, a swift processing of some kernel package > > > might be warr

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:11:06PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > [ Please followup to the right list depending on the contents of your > reply. Be aware I'm not subscribed to -kernel, so Cc me if needed ] > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:14:37AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > [huge rant about

NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
[ Please followup to the right list depending on the contents of your reply. Be aware I'm not subscribed to -kernel, so Cc me if needed ] On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:14:37AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > [huge rant about NEW and hurting kernel stuff etc etc] Three remarks: > Rejecting those would l