Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
 This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs:
 - Intel i486,

There is new hardware sold today that is (only) compatible to the 486 SX
instruction set. But it runs at 300 MHz. So it would be a pity to loose
support for such hardware.

http://www.dmp.com.tw/tech/Vortex86SX/
http://www.compactpc.com.tw/ebox-2300.htm

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Philipp Hübner
Hi,

Bastian Blank schrieb:
 This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs:
 - Intel i486,
 - Intel Pentium (MMX),
 - AMD K5,
 - AMD K6(-2, -3),

Many schools are using LTSP on Debian (Edu) and have this hardware as
their thinclients.

Would be a shame if all those schools using free software cannot use the
next release (and following) because their hardware is no longer supported.
And I'm talking of really large numbers here worldwide.

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote:
 - VIA C3 before Nehemiah and
 - National Semiconductor Geode (GXm, GXLV, GX1 and GX2).

That affects XO-1 hardware being manufactured now, and C3s are among
the viable CPUs for low cost, low dissipation school server style
hardware.

On the school server, I do my best to keep Debian a valid alternative
(though the builds are Fedora based) and with a bit of packaging help
most (all?) the XS specific packages could be in Debian.

On the XO side, Jonas is packaging sugar and there's a mini-CDD called
DebXO that seems to be quite active.

I understand supporting additional hw does mean sizable work. Thanks
for the fantastic work done so far. Please do consider not dropping
support.

cheers,



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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread J.A. Bezemer

On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:

 Hi folks
 
 I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
 kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
[..]

Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:

linux-image-2.6-68649518
linux-image-2.6-486 6191

Given that the installer's automatic kernel choice tends to be accurate,
we've got quite some non-cmov users. Actually, i386 has got many more
non-cmov users than any non-i386/amd64 architecture has _in total_:

linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx   772   (=arm/armel)
linux-image-2.6-powerpc  551
linux-image-2.6-sparc64  192
linux-image-2.6-orion5x  106   (=arm/armel)
(rest 100)

#include popcon-accuracy-disclaimer.h

So, the good work you're doing to keep supporting arm/powerpc/sparc/etc.
will actually benefit much less users than the number you'll be annoying
when you drop i386 non-cmov ...


Best regards,

Anne Bezemer


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Bug#529312: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem: Does not recognize all CPUs on summit SMP machines

2009-05-25 Thread Andreas U. Trottmann
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:04:53PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:

 A fix has been committed. It would be helpful if you could test a
 lenny snaphot build and confirm the fix. Information on installing
 snapshots is available here:
 
   http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel
 
 The version you will want to test will be = 2.6.26-16~snapshot.13633
 and should be available after the next daily build cycle.

Thank you very much for your extremely fast response.

I've checked the wiki page and the repository it references.
Also, I've checked the directory with the debs:

http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/


Unfortunately, it appears the latest i386 lenny kernel snapshot
is snapshot.13538 - all more recent ones are either not lenny
or not i386. I'll continue to check and will report any success
as soon as there will be a suitable kernel (lenny, i386, =
2.6.26-16~snapshot.13633) to test.


With kind regards,

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
J.A. Bezemer cos...@wormhole.robuust.nl writes:

 On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:

 Hi folks
 
 I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
 kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
 [..]

 Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:

 linux-image-2.6-68649518
 linux-image-2.6-486 6191

 Given that the installer's automatic kernel choice tends to be accurate,
 we've got quite some non-cmov users. Actually, i386 has got many more
 non-cmov users than any non-i386/amd64 architecture has _in total_:

 linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx   772   (=arm/armel)
 linux-image-2.6-powerpc  551
 linux-image-2.6-sparc64  192
 linux-image-2.6-orion5x  106   (=arm/armel)
 (rest 100)

 #include popcon-accuracy-disclaimer.h

 So, the good work you're doing to keep supporting arm/powerpc/sparc/etc.
 will actually benefit much less users than the number you'll be annoying
 when you drop i386 non-cmov ...


 Best regards,

 Anne Bezemer

And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How
many use a custom kernel?

MfG
Goswin


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Bug#524571: Security update stable?

2009-05-25 Thread Alejandro Leyva
Did somebody could confirm that the security update of the kernel fix this?



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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 25 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 J.A. Bezemer cos...@wormhole.robuust.nl writes:
  On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
  Hi folks
 
  I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
  kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
 
  [..]
 
  Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:
 
  linux-image-2.6-68649518
  linux-image-2.6-486 6191
 
  Given that the installer's automatic kernel choice tends to be accurate,
  we've got quite some non-cmov users. Actually, i386 has got many more
  non-cmov users than any non-i386/amd64 architecture has _in total_:
 
  linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx   772   (=arm/armel)
  linux-image-2.6-powerpc  551
  linux-image-2.6-sparc64  192
  linux-image-2.6-orion5x  106   (=arm/armel)
  (rest 100)
 
  #include popcon-accuracy-disclaimer.h
 
  So, the good work you're doing to keep supporting arm/powerpc/sparc/etc.
  will actually benefit much less users than the number you'll be annoying
  when you drop i386 non-cmov ...
 
 
  Best regards,
 
  Anne Bezemer

 And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How
 many use a custom kernel?

 MfG
 Goswin

Quite a lot (me included) build an image once, and install it on multiple
machines.  I have about 60 machines built from three images for which
this would be a problem.  

David


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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 25 2009 06:03:40 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How
 many use a custom kernel?

OTOH, none of the non-cmov i386 systems here run popcon either.

--Mike Bird


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Processed: Re: Bug#530551: Wired network connection shuts down every 4-5min, then automaticaly restarts

2009-05-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

 reassign 530551 linux-image-2.6.26-1-686
Bug#530551: Wired network connection shuts down every 4-5min, then automaticaly 
restarts
Bug reassigned from package `base' to `linux-image-2.6.26-1-686'.

 thanks
Stopping processing here.

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Bug#530554: linux-image-2.6.29-2-686: hardware wlan kill switch state isn't restored correctly if put back off

2009-05-25 Thread Olivier Berger
Package: linux-image-2.6.29-2-686
Version: 2.6.29-4
Severity: normal

When using network-manager, I cannot connect to wifi if I reactivate wirelless 
after having switched it off with the hardware kill-switch of my Dell Latitude 
D820.

I noticed some weird things after trying to debug the cause of the problem.

I have the following kill-switch information appearing in /sys at boot if 
kill-switch is off (meaning wireless activated) :
# for i in $(find /sys | grep -i kill | grep /state ); do echo -n $i :  ; cat 
$i; done
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill0/state : 1
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill1/state : 1
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:03:00.0/rfkill/rfkill2/state : 1

After I activate the kill-switch to disable networking, it gives :
# for i in $(find /sys | grep -i kill | grep /state ); do echo -n $i :  ; cat 
$i; done
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill0/state : 2
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill1/state : 2
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:03:00.0/rfkill/rfkill2/state : 2

However, after reactivating network (kill switch switched to off), I get only :
# for i in $(find /sys | grep -i kill | grep /state ); do echo -n $i :  ; cat 
$i; done
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill0/state : 1
/sys/devices/virtual/rfkill/rfkill1/state : 1
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:03:00.0/rfkill/rfkill2/state : 2

This probably explains the problem with network-manager (which is btw reflected 
in the killswitch.state shown with lshal :

--- hal-on.log  2009-05-25 19:17:06.0 +0200
+++ hal-back-on.log 2009-05-25 19:20:01.0 +0200
@@ -80,18 +80,18 @@
 udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4222_rfkill_3945ABG_wlan'
   info.addons.singleton = {'hald-addon-rfkill-killswitch'} (string list)
   info.capabilities = {'killswitch'} (string list)
   info.category = 'killswitch'  (string)
   info.interfaces = {'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch'} (string list)
   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4222'  (string)
   info.product = '3945ABG wlan Killswitch'  (string)
   info.subsystem = 'rfkill'  (string)
   info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4222_rfkill_3945ABG_wlan'  
(string)
   info.vendor = 'Intel Corporation'  (string)
   killswitch.access_method = 'rfkill'  (string)
   killswitch.name = '3945ABG'  (string)
-  killswitch.state = 1  (0x1)  (int)
+  killswitch.state = 2  (0x2)  (int)
   killswitch.type = 'wlan'  (string)
   linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
   linux.subsystem = 'rfkill'  (string)
   linux.sysfs_path = 
'/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:03:00.0/rfkill/rfkill2'  (string)

This used to work fine with Network-Manager over 2.6.26, though.

Thanks in advance.

-- Package-specific info:
** Version:
Linux version 2.6.29-2-686 (Debian 2.6.29-4) (wa...@debian.org) (gcc version 
4.3.3 (Debian 4.3.3-8) ) #1 SMP Sun May 3 12:46:00 UTC 2009

** Command line:
root=/dev/sda5 ro pci=assign-busses vga=791

** Tainted: P (1)

** Kernel log:
[   10.456549] coretemp coretemp.0: Using relative temperature scale!
[   10.472451] coretemp coretemp.1: Using relative temperature scale!
[   14.423356] fuse init (API version 7.11)
[   14.531429] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   14.546631] EXT3 FS on sda3, internal journal
[   14.561588] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   14.611015] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   14.626346] EXT3 FS on dm-3, internal journal
[   14.641141] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   14.685104] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   14.699952] EXT3 FS on dm-2, internal journal
[   14.714364] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   14.752134] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   14.766460] EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal
[   14.780224] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   14.841000] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   14.854725] EXT3 FS on dm-1, internal journal
[   14.868207] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   15.013563] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   15.027303] EXT3 FS on dm-4, internal journal
[   15.040477] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   15.141855] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   15.155362] EXT3 FS on dm-6, internal journal
[   15.168501] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   18.961074] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[   18.974645] EXT3 FS on dm-5, internal journal
[   18.987999] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[   22.853875] platform microcode: firmware: requesting intel-ucode/06-0f-02
[   22.920562] platform microcode: firmware: requesting intel-ucode/06-0f-02
[   22.942887] Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 tig...@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk, 
Peter Oruba
[   25.550273] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[   25.564710] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[   52.027501] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.11
[   52.040834] Bluetooth: L2CAP 

Re: Bug#530551: Wired network connection shuts down every 4-5min, then automaticaly restarts

2009-05-25 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 530551 linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 
thanks

On Montag, 25. Mai 2009, Debian Bugs wrote:
 Package: base
 Version: 5.0
 Every 4-5 minutes the wired network connection shuts down. After a couple
 of seconds it back on again. Log text:

 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.373370] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
 :10:00.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner
 kernel: [ 3266.373370] iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch May 25
 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.373370] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device
 :10:00.0 disabled May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Modem hangup
 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.378069] eth0: late interrupt.
 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.380211] b44: eth0: powering down
 PHY May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Connect time 4.6 minutes.
 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Sent 273611 bytes, received 1097617
 bytes. May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Connection terminated.
 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.547179] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
 :10:00.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner
 kernel: [ 3266.547179] iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch May 25
 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.547179] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device
 :10:00.0 disabled May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner kernel: [ 3266.553069]
 ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready May 25 19:22:23 Slejpner
 kernel: [ 3266.662871] b44: eth0: powering down PHY May 25 19:22:24
 Slejpner kernel: [ 3267.870455] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not
 ready May 25 19:22:28 Slejpner kernel: [ 3271.219899] b44: eth0: Link is up
 at 100 Mbps, full duplex. May 25 19:22:28 Slejpner kernel: [ 3271.219909]
 b44: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. May 25 19:22:28
 Slejpner kernel: [ 3271.220250] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes
 ready May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: PPP session is 3757
 May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Using interface ppp0
 May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: Connect: ppp0 -- eth0
 May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: CHAP authentication succeeded
 May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: CHAP authentication succeeded
 May 25 19:22:53 Slejpner pppd[4761]: peer from calling number
 00:90:1A:A0:F4:5A authorized May 25 19:22:54 Slejpner pppd[4761]: local  IP
 address 78.54.111.171 May 25 19:22:54 Slejpner pppd[4761]: remote IP
 address 213.191.76.38 May 25 19:22:54 Slejpner pppd[4761]: primary   DNS
 address 213.191.74.19 May 25 19:22:54 Slejpner pppd[4761]: secondary DNS
 address 62.109.123.197

 Other stuff that might help:

 a...@slejpner:~$ uname -a
 Linux Slejpner 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686
 GNU/Linux a...@slejpner:~$
 a...@slejpner:~$ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 16. Mai 00:36 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.7.so
 a...@slejpner:~$
 a...@slejpner:~$ dpkg -s libc6 | grep ^Version
 Version: 2.7-18
 a...@slejpner:~$ reportbug -q --template -T none -s none -S normal -b
 --list-cc none -q base Detected character set: UTF-8
 Please change your locale if this is incorrect.

 Using 'Arne mydebian.b...@web.de' as your from address.
 Getting status for base...
 Will send report to Debian (per lsb_release).

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 From: Arne mydebian.b...@web.de
 To: Debian Bug Tracking System sub...@bugs.debian.org
 Subject: none
 X-Debbugs-Cc: mydebian.b...@web.de, none

 Package: base
 Severity: normal



 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: 5.0
   APT prefers proposed-updates
   APT policy: (99, 'proposed-updates'), (99, 'stable')
 Architecture: i386 (i686)

 Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
 Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash


 The system is running on a hp nx7400 laptop with 1 GB ram and 250 GB
 Samsung Harddisk. No problems what soever while using Etch.

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Bug#509733: Also broken on Intel G45 integrated graphics

2009-05-25 Thread Daniel Barlow

As far as I know I am using the latest version of xserver-xorg-core
available anywhere in Debian: where can I get one that *does* work?

:; dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| 
Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)

||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  xserver-xorg-c 2:1.6.1.901-2  Xorg X server - core server


:; X -version

This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.

X.Org X Server 1.6.1.901 (1.6.2 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-5-8
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.26-1-vserver-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux lsip 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Wed May 
13 18:43:45 UTC 2009 x86_64

Build Date: 14 May 2009  04:42:17PM
xorg-server 2:1.6.1.901-2 (bui...@excelsior.roeckx.be)
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.



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