Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-09 Thread Robert Moonen
Hello Dimitry, Since I am only responding to you and not to a list where others interested in the conversation that might not have read it are involved, I will top post as opposed to posting inline, this ensures brevity in my response as well as not requiring you to search out my response. OK.

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-08 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 05/12/11 06:53, Ben Hutchings wrote: Since this feature requires almost no extra memory (the code is all discardable after boot) I'm prepared to enable it. However, I will modify it to taint the kernel if any memory fault is detected, on the basis that there are likely to be other

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-05 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Sorry Ben, I feel like I need to clarify some ambiguity of our communication. When in reply to bug filed against linux-image-amd64 you sad Your request cannot be satisfied since the MEMTEST option is only available for x86, my perception let me think that for some reason you meant the feature

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 20:00 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Sorry Ben, I feel like I need to clarify some ambiguity of our communication. When in reply to bug filed against linux-image-amd64 you sad Your request cannot be satisfied since the MEMTEST option is only available for x86, my

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
Your request cannot be satisfied since the MEMTEST option is only available for x86. However, I suspect that's all you really care about. Since this feature requires almost no extra memory (the code is all discardable after boot) I'm prepared to enable it. However, I will modify it to taint the

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-04 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Monday 05 December 2011 16:53:22 Ben Hutchings wrote: Your request cannot be satisfied since the MEMTEST option is only available for x86. However, I suspect that's all you really care about. So the feature won't be available on amd64? Just x86 is a bit disappointing but certainly better

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Dmitry Smirnov wrote: It is probably obvious to everyone that MEMTEST is harmless. Then why not enable it without painful discussions? Having a feature enabled in the Debian kernel (at release time) is a promise to continue supporting it for the period in which that release is supported. It

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-01 Thread Uwe Kleine-König
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 06:09:03AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Dmitry Smirnov wrote: It is probably obvious to everyone that MEMTEST is harmless. Then why not enable it without painful discussions? Having a feature enabled in the Debian kernel (at release time) is a promise to

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-01 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Uwe Kleine-König wrote: With the latter you have a test case to determine if your RAM is bad (or not). With the memtest kernel option memory is tested before it's given out to kmalloc. So it is able in some cases to just not give out bad parts of RAM allowing to use RAM that is a bit broken.

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-01 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Thursday 01 December 2011 23:09:03 Jonathan Nieder wrote: (Kernel image size is also a consideration, though probably not a major worry in this particular example.) Indeed. In this case we're talking about 130 lines of source code (3 KB), see arch/x86/mm/memtest.c If just few requests

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-12-01 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Friday 02 December 2011 07:59:02 Jonathan Nieder wrote: Having said that I don't know if it's sensible to add to Debian as I didn't test runtime and binary size overhead. Binary size overhead is really negligible. No opinion on that from me. It does seem a shame that many kinds of

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-11-30 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
I would like to reopen this discussion since there are some unanswered questions. Are we censoring certain Linux Kernel features because they are not good enough? If so, * How do we decide what experimental feature is OK? (For example we have btrfs along with many other things,

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-11-29 Thread intrigeri
Hi, Dmitry Smirnov wrote (14 Feb 2011 03:18:17 GMT) : It would be very nice to have 'memtest' option enabled by default in all Debian kernels. This wishlist bug is a duplicate of #556365, which was closed (for very good reasons, if you ask me). Therefore, I believe it should be closed as well.

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-11-29 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Dear intrigeri, This wishlist bug is a duplicate of #556365, which was closed (for very good reasons, if you ask me). Therefore, I believe it should be closed as well. I very much disagree, unless this wishlist will be closed by enabling the feature requested. This *useful* feature has been

Bug#613321: linux-image-amd64: Please enable 'memtest' option for all linux kernels

2011-02-13 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: linux-image-amd64 Severity: wishlist It would be very nice to have 'memtest' option enabled by default in all Debian kernels. This tiny feature is only activated with boot-time parameter so it is harmless, but powerful for those who want to use it. As described in