Bug#684516: R: Re: Regarding: Bug#684516: bluetooth loaded for UNKNOWN reason

2012-08-25 Thread asronche...@libero.it
Hi,
thanks for your advice. I'm going to test this in a week or two. (i'll restore 
a backup image , via dd)
At the moment i installed another distro on this pc, to understand if the 
problem is hardware related.

indeed, it could be a simple hardware problem on this asus notebook, like a 
buggy mobo for example.

#683807 made me think that.
indeed , the strange thing: nobody posted a message like: hey i have that 
problem too! . 


After the test with the other distro, i'll restore debian on this pc.

btw, what do you mean with 'ramdisk' ? is that 'initramfs' ? if i remove that 
file, will the system be still bootable?
(sorry, i still am not an expert about the linux boot stuff)

bye
Asdrubale

Messaggio originale
Da: stapp...@stappers.nl
Data: 25-ago-2012 19.59
A: asronche...@libero.itasronche...@libero.it
Cc: stapp...@stappers.nl
Ogg: Re: Regarding: Bug#684516: bluetooth loaded for UNKNOWN reason

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 09:46:07AM +0200, asronche...@libero.it wrote:
 Da: stapp...@stappers.nl
 Data: 20-ago-2012 22.56
 
 My advice is to research what causes the bluetooth module to be loaded.
 

 that was the reason for me to open this bug report.
 was it such a simple task i'd already solved it by myself.

Nobody said it would be easy.


Another approach to the challenge:

Remove the bluetooth module from /lib/modules and the initial ramdisk,
so that the computer hasn't any more the module.

You might get an error message from what tries to load bluetooth.
Yes, I assume that the computer boots.

No load error on bluetooth only a problem,
when the crash is gone.


What I'm trying to say:

* focus on the problem^Wchallenge
* no limits  ( so removing the bt module, is not beyond a limit )
* do not wait for other


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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 And is there a policy on top-posting vs. bottom-posting?
Yes.



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Bug#684516: R: Bug#684516: bluetooth loaded for UNKNOWN reason

2012-08-20 Thread asronche...@libero.it


Messaggio originale
Da: stapp...@stappers.nl
Data: 19-ago-2012 21.51
A: asronche...@libero.itasronche...@libero.it
Cc: 684...@bugs.debian.org
Ogg: Bug#684516: bluetooth loaded for UNKNOWN reason
My advice is to research what causes the bluetooth module be loaded.

I would start with checking udev rules.

udev rules are the default ones of a fresh squeeze installation and i 've 
found no strange.bluetooth stuff in them. (and also i never touched udev 
default config files).


Thing I would NOT do, is yelling: Nobody listens to me!

Hey! there's no need to start trolling :|

I was just pointing the FACT that the problem is *not* caused by the 
bluetooth/bluez packages.

Asdrubale


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Bug#684516: bluetooth loaded for UNKNOWN reason

2012-08-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 07:41:50PM +0200, asronche...@libero.it wrote:
 Da: Johantan Niederman jrnie...@gmail.com
 Data: 19-ago-2012 19.27
 
 
  (Though I have no idea whether they trigger autoloading of the
  bluetooth module or if it's udev's responsibility.)
 
 
 Thanks for the advice. I checked via aptitude but i have already removed the 
 bluez package.
 
 
 
 Ben Hutchings @ Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:56:35 +0100
 Not a bug; please stop pursuing this irrelevant detail.
 
 How can you think that it's not a bug?

The challenge is to be constructive.


 1) I dont have bluetooth devices attached to this notebook.
 2) I followed your advice and i removed the bluetooth package
 3) today i had a kernel panic and the error message appeared on the the 
 screen 
 showed a list of loaded modulse. The first module of that list was indeed the 
 bluetooth module.
 

My advice is to research what causes the bluetooth module be loaded.

I would start with checking udev rules.

Thing I would NOT do, is yelling: Nobody listens to me!


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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