Bug#442251: marked as done (check for non-free firmware (Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom))

2008-01-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:57:06 +0100 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line check for non-free firmware has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your

Bug#442238: marked as done (check for non-free firmware (Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom))

2008-01-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:57:06 +0100 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line check for non-free firmware has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your

check for non-free firmware (Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom)

2007-09-14 Thread Robert Millan
Package: linux-2.6 Severity: wishlist Please could you add some check in debian/rules to prevent non-free firmware from inadvertingly entering the linux-2.6 package, as described in the mail quoted below? On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 03:29:29AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Wednesday 12

Re: check for non-free firmware (Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom)

2007-09-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:33:58PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: Please could you add some check in debian/rules to prevent non-free firmware from inadvertingly entering the linux-2.6 package, as described in the mail quoted below? You voluntered to write one? It needs to apply a heuristic,

Bug#442251: check for non-free firmware (Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom)

2007-09-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: linux-2.6 Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 14 September 2007 12:33, Robert Millan wrote: Please could you add some check in debian/rules to prevent non-free firmware from inadvertingly entering the linux-2.6 package, as

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 12 September 2007 15:37, Robert Millan wrote: There isn't any patch that should be required here. There is already a script in the kernel team repo to be used for pruning non-free firmware from the tarball, and it appears that whoever produced the initial uploads of

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Colin Tuckley
Nathanael Nerode wrote: drivers/media/video/dabfirmware.h ... drivers/net/tokenring/3c359_microcode.h In other words, *all* of the above drivers. Wrong! Those are not the *drivers* they are the source code header files needed to link to them. Colin -- Colin Tuckley | [EMAIL

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:10:17 +0100, Colin Tuckley wrote: Nathanael Nerode wrote: drivers/media/video/dabfirmware.h ... drivers/net/tokenring/3c359_microcode.h In other words, *all* of the above drivers. Wrong! Those are not the *drivers* they are the source code header

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:13:38AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Coming back to looking at Debian after being preoccupied by family business, I see that the kernel team is not even seriously trying to separate out any non-free material. There have been severe regressions from sarge and

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Coming back to looking at Debian after being preoccupied by family business, I see that the kernel team is not even seriously trying to separate out any non-free material. There have been severe regressions from sarge and no attempt is being made to fix them. Why don't you start to

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:39:05AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Non-free material is being included in main for the benefit of *precisely zero* users. There's no two ways about this: this is a Social Contract violation. Kernel has 736[1] open bugs, including ones that corrupt data and make

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Sam Morris
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:13:38 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Why don't you start to send patches then. Seems you have enough free time to look after such issues. Fixing Kernels to work on more (sometimes even important machines, like buildds) is a much more important job than to get rid of oh so

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nathanael Nerode: The most recent linux-source-2.6.22 contains the following files: drivers/media/video/dabfirmware.h Probably okay, could be a frequency table or some kind of bitmap. Who knows. drivers/net/drgs_firmware.c Doesn't exist upstream. Huh? drivers/usb/misc/emi26_fw.h

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11140 March 1977, Nathanael Nerode wrote: I'm not sure I can take the Debian kernel team seriously any more. What team? We dont seem to have a team. The most recent linux-source-2.6.22 contains the following files: [...] In other words, *all* of the above drivers. It's even worse than

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:25:11AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:13:38AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Coming back to looking at Debian after being preoccupied by family business, I see that the kernel team is not even seriously trying to separate out any

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:42:56PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:39:05AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Non-free material is being included in main for the benefit of *precisely zero* users. There's no two ways about this: this is a Social Contract violation.

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Ondrej Certik
I guess the Social Contract really is a joke. I don't know why new applicants are supposed to agree to it. Old members apparently violate it at will for years with no consequences. It doesn't make me respect Debian very much. I am not a DD (yet), but all my packages were very strictly

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Karl Goetz
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:42 +0200, Ondrej Certik wrote: I guess the Social Contract really is a joke. I don't know why new applicants are supposed to agree to it. Old members apparently violate it at will for years with no consequences. It doesn't make me respect Debian very

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:42:56 +0300, Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:39:05AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Non-free material is being included in main for the benefit of *precisely zero* users. There's no two ways about this: this is a Social Contract

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:39:05AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: The most recent linux-source-2.6.22 contains the following files: drivers/media/video/dabfirmware.h # CONFIG_USB_DABUSB is not set drivers/net/drgs_firmware.c # CONFIG_DGRS is not set drivers/usb/misc/emi26_fw.h

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Oh well, the kernel team just lost its trust, which means new uploads of kernel-team packages dont get their old way of fasttracking in NEW, as I now need to check all of their uploads for such cases. I'm not sure I find this helpful. You're not checking for copyright

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2007-09-12, Faidon Liambotis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: You're not checking for copyright violations or for non-free stuff in all other packages. I obviously meant all other *existing* source packages, i.e. all the uploads that don't pass through NEW.

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:07:43 +0300, Faidon Liambotis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2007-09-12, Faidon Liambotis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: You're not checking for copyright violations or for non-free stuff in all other packages. I obviously meant all

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11140 March 1977, Faidon Liambotis wrote: You're not checking for copyright violations or for non-free stuff in all other packages. I wonder what I did to all those thousands of packages I had in NEW in the past. IMHO, it's not the ftp-master's job to check with each upload if a number

Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11140 March 1977, Faidon Liambotis wrote: I don't consider it something needing fixing. It is a good way to have the copyright files occasionally reviewed. I don't think that old source packages are re-reviewed for copyright violations/non-freeness. But I could easily be wrong. Those that

Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

2007-09-11 Thread Nathanael Nerode
I'm not sure I can take the Debian kernel team seriously any more. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing states, in part: Debian kernel team identifies the following three types of firmware, currently found in the Linux kernel: 1. Sourceless binary blobs with no license, no explicit