Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:19:04AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is not a position acceptable in debian right now, who aims to support many less-supported-arches/subarches, who still struggle to get their main patches into mainline. So i believe it is

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By saying that these obsolete drivers should be supported anyway you are basically requesting other people to spend their time maintaining workarounds in their own packages. Well, we have done this for sarge in a much more extensive way when

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 04:25:01PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By saying that these obsolete drivers should be supported anyway you are basically requesting other people to spend their time maintaining workarounds in their own packages.

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, i remember some issues with the firewire module in the sarge timeframe, and how you actively discouraged a workaround for this. It's hard to be specific since I do not remember the details either, but IIRC I suggested a solution to be

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, on one hand you say you have no plan to oppose workarounds, but on the other hand you clearly oppose such workarounds ? No, I oppose attempts to require me to maintain them

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it would be best for all involved if we maintained a list of such cases, and had proper workaround in either udev or a separate package, and then, actively search to get those cases fixed in the kernel, either by doing the development

Re: Debian Installer - boot floppies

2006-03-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:35:55PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it would be best for all involved if we maintained a list of such cases, and had proper workaround in either udev or a separate package, and then, actively search to get