Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 16 March 2007 18:34, dann frazier wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:19:11AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > In the D-I team we treat the Uploaders field differently. Uploaders > > are people who actually coordinate the package or do frequent uploads > > because of their role in the project

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 06:06:03PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:03:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > What is your interpretation Bastian? > > The same than d-i have. And I lost the trust in maks. Whether you trust or distrust other members of the kernel team, is irr

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread maximilian attems
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 06:06:03PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:03:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > What is your interpretation Bastian? > > The same than d-i have. And I lost the trust in maks. what the connection with aboves question and your asocial response? you

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:59:36AM +0200, Jurij Smakov wrote: > I do agree with this interpretation. Do you also agree that it is okay to break anything just for fun? Bastian -- If some day we are defeated, well, war has its fortunes, good and bad. -- Commander Kor, "Errand of M

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:03:36PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > What is your interpretation Bastian? The same than d-i have. And I lost the trust in maks. Bastian -- Where there's no emotion, there's no motive for violence. -- Spock, "Dagger of the Mind", stardate 2715.1 -- T

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Notice that Frans decided on this way of using the uploader field, and used it > as weapon against me in his war against me. Uh, uh. You are at least 2 years too late: | $ svn log -r 1293 svn://svn.debian.org/d-i/trunk/packages/debian

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 03:23:39PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thursday 15 March 2007 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > >> Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team should be permitted an > >> entry in the Uploaders field. I also do not believe t

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-17 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 21:32, dann frazier wrote: >> Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team should be permitted an >> entry in the Uploaders field. I also do not believe that the presence >> of a maintainer's name in the Uploaders field grants th

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-17 Thread Otavio Salvador
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sven Luther) writes: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:43:03AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:09:48AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: >> > So, Frans has the right to speak here, while i have not ? >> >> Frans' message was on topic and useful, while you were basica

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread dann frazier
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:19:11AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > > Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team should be permitted an > > entry in the Uploaders field. I also do not believe that the presence > > of a maintainer's name in the Up

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:18:13PM +0200, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:15:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > I do agree with this interpretation. I also think it's really sad that > > > we have to invoke policy to regulate the use of the Uploaders field. > > > There is no

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:15:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > I do agree with this interpretation. I also think it's really sad that > > we have to invoke policy to regulate the use of the Uploaders field. > > There is no reason whatsoever (other than Bastian's anti-social > > tendencies) to

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 10:00:48AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > So, i played nice, to no avail, so i will try to be an asshole for a week or > two now, and see how people like it. Welcome to my killfile. Congratulations, this is a real achivement. Greetings Marc -- --

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:43:03AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:09:48AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > So, Frans has the right to speak here, while i have not ? > > Frans' message was on topic and useful, while you were basically > telling him to shut up, which is neither

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:15:55AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > So, will you try to expulse him too, like Frederik and Andres did to me ? Can you please take your personal vendettas from this technical mailing list? Both Bastian and you are difficult to work with, but in different dimensions. Gre

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:09:48AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > So, Frans has the right to speak here, while i have not ? Frans' message was on topic and useful, while you were basically telling him to shut up, which is neither on topic nor useful. Do you see the difference? Greetings Marc -- -

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:59:36AM +0200, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:32:29PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > According to policy 5.6.3: > > > > List of the names and email addresses of co-maintainers of the > > package, if any. If the package has other maintainers beside the

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 10:01:08AM +0200, Jurij Smakov wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:21:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Frans, you are not of the kernel team, and as you have played dirty tricks > > in > > these areas yourself, you are absolutely not qualified to give your opinion >

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-16 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:21:54AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Frans, you are not of the kernel team, and as you have played dirty tricks in > these areas yourself, you are absolutely not qualified to give your opinion > here. Don't be ridiculous. It's a public mailing list, and everyone's opi

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:32:29PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > According to policy 5.6.3: > > List of the names and email addresses of co-maintainers of the > package, if any. If the package has other maintainers beside the one > named in the Maintainer field, their names and email addresses s

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:19:11AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > > Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team should be permitted an > > entry in the Uploaders field. I also do not believe that the presence > > of a maintainer's name in the Up

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 March 2007 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team should be permitted an > entry in the Uploaders field. I also do not believe that the presence > of a maintainer's name in the Uploaders field grants them any > additional privileges. Uploads stil

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:30:54PM +0100, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 14:32 -0600, dann frazier wrote: > [...] > > Does this match other people's interpretations? > > Yes. > > Norbert ack -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:43:49PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:32:29PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > Does this match other people's interpretations? Let's please use this > > thread to achieve consensus on Uploaders usage. > > No. What is your interpretation Bastian?

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:43:49PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:32:29PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > Does this match other people's interpretations? Let's please use this > > thread to achieve consensus on Uploaders usage. > > No. Hi Bastian, Would you be so kind as

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:32:29PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > Does this match other people's interpretations? Let's please use this > thread to achieve consensus on Uploaders usage. No. Bastian -- The sight of death frightens them [Earthers]. -- Kras the Klingon, "Friday's Chi

Re: Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 14:32 -0600, dann frazier wrote: [...] > Does this match other people's interpretations? Yes. Norbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Towards consensus of our usage of the Uploaders field

2007-03-15 Thread dann frazier
According to policy 5.6.3: List of the names and email addresses of co-maintainers of the package, if any. If the package has other maintainers beside the one named in the Maintainer field, their names and email addresses should be listed here. Given this, I believe anyone on the kernel team