Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 02/08/2011 04:16 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 AUFS will be included for use in Debian Live if there is a version
 compatible with 2.6.37.

is available, see upstreams repository at
http://git.c3sl.ufpr.br/gitweb?p=aufs/aufs2-2.6.git

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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2011-02-08 at 15:16 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
 will not come back.  OpenVZ and VServer users should migrate to LXC
 (Linux containers, using the cgroups and namespace features).  Xen
 support in mainline Linux is improving and it should be usable as the
 dom0 kernel soon. 

What about the Grsecurity featureset?
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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 06:37:22PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 On mar., 2011-02-08 at 15:16 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
  Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
  will not come back.  OpenVZ and VServer users should migrate to LXC
  (Linux containers, using the cgroups and namespace features).  Xen
  support in mainline Linux is improving and it should be usable as the
  dom0 kernel soon. 
 
 What about the Grsecurity featureset?
 
Well, I had thought that was ready to add, but Bastian raised some issues
that you'll have to answer first.  Sorry for raising your hopes on that.

Ben.

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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2011-02-09 at 17:47 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 06:37:22PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On mar., 2011-02-08 at 15:16 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
   Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
   will not come back.  OpenVZ and VServer users should migrate to LXC
   (Linux containers, using the cgroups and namespace features).  Xen
   support in mainline Linux is improving and it should be usable as the
   dom0 kernel soon. 
  
  What about the Grsecurity featureset?
  
 Well, I had thought that was ready to add, but Bastian raised some issues
 that you'll have to answer first.  Sorry for raising your hopes on that. 

No problem, though I've replied to the comments and am waiting for some
replies.

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Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
I intend to upload linux-2.6 and linux-kbuild-2.6 based on upstream
version 2.6.37, later this week.  linux-latest-2.6 will also be
updated.

Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
will not come back.  OpenVZ and VServer users should migrate to LXC
(Linux containers, using the cgroups and namespace features).  Xen
support in mainline Linux is improving and it should be usable as the
dom0 kernel soon.

AUFS will be included for use in Debian Live if there is a version
compatible with 2.6.37.

Ben.

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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
 Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
 will not come back.

Does this mean that it would be a good day to start testing the dom0
support of plain 2.6.37 to make sure regressions will be minimal? (I
am assuming 2.6.37 does support dom0 now).




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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 07:20:38PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
  Note that the OpenVZ, VServer and Xen flavours have been dropped and
  will not come back.
 
 Does this mean that it would be a good day to start testing the dom0
 support of plain 2.6.37 to make sure regressions will be minimal? (I
 am assuming 2.6.37 does support dom0 now).
 
The backend drivers have not yet been merged, so it's not yet very
useful as dom0.

Ben.

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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
 The backend drivers have not yet been merged, so it's not yet very
 useful as dom0.

ok. Is there still hope that they will get merged before wheezy is
released or would now be a good time to start looking at KVM migration
plans?


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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 08:54:24PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
  The backend drivers have not yet been merged, so it's not yet very
  useful as dom0.
 
 ok. Is there still hope that they will get merged before wheezy is
 released or would now be a good time to start looking at KVM migration
 plans?

I think they will, e.g. netback is going through review now and I would
expect it to be merged in time for 2.6.39.

Apparently Linux 2.6.38 will have enough functionality in dom0 that
blkback and netback can be implemented in userland in qemu.

Ben.

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Re: Uploading linux-2.6 2.6.37-1 to unstable

2011-02-08 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 19:14 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: 
 On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 08:54:24PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
  Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
   The backend drivers have not yet been merged, so it's not yet very
   useful as dom0.
  
  ok. Is there still hope that they will get merged before wheezy is
  released or would now be a good time to start looking at KVM migration
  plans?
 
 I think they will, e.g. netback is going through review now and I would
 expect it to be merged in time for 2.6.39.

Yes, I'm actively working on it and hope to get it in for 2.6.39.

 Apparently Linux 2.6.38 will have enough functionality in dom0 that
 blkback and netback can be implemented in userland in qemu.

I think that's the case, yes.

The qemu-xen in Squeeze doesn't have the backends, in case someone was
planning to try a new kernel on Squeeze.

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