Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010, William Pitcock wrote: That was opposed quite strongly by the kernel folks last time it was attempted. Were there any fundamental changes in the Xen dom0 patches since then? Only by the kernel folks which believe all of the crap that the KVM guys say about Xen.

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-07 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:06:56AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010, William Pitcock wrote: That was opposed quite strongly by the kernel folks last time it was attempted. Were there any fundamental changes in the Xen dom0 patches since then? Only by the

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-04 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net : I think dropping Xen support is a mistake I run KVM and QEMU, with no major problem (no minor either) A full Xen integrated distribution is SuSe, try it. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: It does require virtualisation extensions, but most x86 processors sold in the last few years have them. My SE Linux Play Machine is currently running on a P3-800 system with 256M of RAM. I would like to continue running on that

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:21:55AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: I believe we will have Xen hypervisor and Linux dom0 packages, The hypervisor works well, but the Linux Dom0 packages are not available yet, upstream is again fading behind. Bastian -- What kind of love is that? Not to be loved;

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Bastian Blank
in Squeeze with support for Xen. Am I blind? Yes, you are. | Package: linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686-bigmem | [...] | Description: Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM | [...] | This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor. It supports only unprivileged | (domU) operation. I don't see the hypervisor

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:55:27 +1100, Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net wrote: Like I said previously, I think dropping Xen support is a mistake because KVM requires QEMU and QEMU seems to have a reputation of being insecure. Xen is unsupportable due to clueless upstream, who has been in a constant

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:46:38AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:55:27 +1100, Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net wrote: Like I said previously, I think dropping Xen support is a mistake because KVM requires QEMU and QEMU seems to have a reputation of being insecure. Xen is

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:23:28AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:21:55AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: I believe we will have Xen hypervisor and Linux dom0 packages, The hypervisor works well, but the Linux Dom0 packages are not available yet, upstream is again fading

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:33:07PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:31:20PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: So the change has happened, lthough it took painfully long to get the upstream Linux pv_ops framework in shape and all that.. and obviously the pv_ops dom0

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:31:20PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: So the change has happened, lthough it took painfully long to get the upstream Linux pv_ops framework in shape and all that.. and obviously the pv_ops dom0 patches still need to get merged upstream. That was opposed quite

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread William Pitcock
- Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:55:27 +1100, Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net wrote: Like I said previously, I think dropping Xen support is a mistake because KVM requires QEMU and QEMU seems to have a reputation of being insecure. Xen is

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread William Pitcock
- Gabor Gombas gomb...@sztaki.hu wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:31:20PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: So the change has happened, lthough it took painfully long to get the upstream Linux pv_ops framework in shape and all that.. and obviously the pv_ops dom0 patches still need

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-03 Thread Brian May
to the degree that ordinary kernel packages are. I can't see any Xen kernel in Squeeze with support for Xen. Am I blind? Yes, you are. | Package: linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686-bigmem | [...] | Description: Linux 2.6.32 for PCs with 4GB+ RAM | [...] | This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:01:40PM +1100, Brian May wrote: Hello, I have heard rumours that Xen is not going to be supported on Squeeze in favour of KVM. True or False? I believe we will have Xen hypervisor and Linux dom0 packages, but they will not be supported to the degree that ordinary

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:01:40PM +1100, Brian May wrote: 2) I believe KVM needs CPU support, and this is not yet available on all modern computers. It does require virtualisation extensions, but most x86 processors

Re: Xen support on Squeeze

2010-01-02 Thread Brian May
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:21:55AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: I believe we will have Xen hypervisor and Linux dom0 packages, but they will not be supported to the degree that ordinary kernel packages are. I can't see any Xen kernel in Squeeze with support for Xen. Am I blind? I don't see