Bug#379090: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061120 10:47]: Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:12:49AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: The patch breaks crosscompilation and other things. | diff -u linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/arch/i386/xen-vserver/defines linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/arch/i386/xen-vserver/defines | --- linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/arch/i386/xen-vserver/defines | +++ linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/arch/i386/xen-vserver/defines | @@ -12 +12,9 @@ | +kernel-arch: i386 | | +[amd64] | +class: AMD64 / EM64T SMP | +longclass: 64bit multi-processor AMD Athlon64/Opteron / Intel EM64T models | +KPKG-ARCH: amd64 | +recommends: libc6-i686 | +kpkg-arch: amd64 kpkg always gets the debian arch of the system it compiles for. Overwriting this is not allowed. See also man make-kpkg: | The value should be whatever DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU contains when | dpkg-architecture is run on the target machine, or it can be an other | architecture in a multi-arch set (like i386/amd64). Which is what we do here. Sounds sane. Anyway, leave the xen stuff disabled if that makes problems for you. As said in this bugreport before we probably don't need it. Good. | diff -u linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/rules.real linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/rules.real | --- linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/rules.real | +++ linux-2.6.16-2.6.16/debian/rules.real | @@ -35,7 +35,11 @@ | # replaced by the flavour for which the command is run. | # | kpkg_image := make-kpkg | -kpkg_image += --arch '$(ARCH)' | +ifdef KPKG_ARCH | + kpkg_image += --arch '$(KPKG_ARCH)' --cross-compile='-' | +else | + kpkg_image += --arch '$(ARCH)' | +endif | kpkg_image += --stem linux | ifneq ($(INITRAMFS),False) |kpkg_image += --initrd No. The cross compilation stuff is set intern and must not be overwriten by the rules. Yes it must. We are building for a multi-arch set here and the synatx for that is to set the architecture but not to cross-compile. --cross-compile='-' does that. The man page tells: --cross-compile foo This is useful for setting the target string when you are cross compiling. Use the dummy target - if you are building for other arches of a multiarch set, like i386/amd64. The supports Goswins view. There is however one negative side-effect: You cannot crosscompile i386-kernel-package anymore. It might be better to set --cross-compile to the right value for i386 - but that shouldn't block application of this patch. Goswin, I expect you actually tested this patch on an i386, and it returned proper kernels (i.e. you tried at least one of them). If so, I think this patch is now in a state where it can be applied. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#379090: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:05:06AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: 3. How else do you build a kernel for a different arch (amd64) than your systems arch (i386)? This is how I build m68k kernels on i386/amd64 machines: DEB_HOST_ARCH=m68k debuild -B -am68k But I guess you want to something slightly different? Christian Exactly. If DEB_HOST_ARCH != DEB_BUILD_ARCH then make-kpkg automatically adds the m68k-gnu-linux- prefix for cross compiling. But building amd64 on i386 has to be done native with the i486-linux-gnu-gcc (or just gcc) as it is not cross-compiling. make-kpkg has the special --cross-compile='-' to tell it to use the native gcc even if DEB_HOST_ARCH != DEB_BUILD_ARCH. Could you apply the patch and check that 'DEB_HOST_ARCH=m68k debuild -B -am68k' still works? If it breaks something I'm happy to fix the patch. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On 2006-11-16, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I have patch. Will be 2.6.20, as i was too late for .19. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.devel/48353 Can it be included, it's not stable stuff, as i was told? Id of the patch is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:53:28AM +, Oleg Verych wrote: On 2006-11-16, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I have patch. Will be 2.6.20, as i was too late for .19. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.devel/48353 What does it do ? Just new id for an usb tool ? The description says : usb-serial: ti_usb, TI ez430 development tool ID Can it be included, it's not stable stuff, as i was told? Id of the patch is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, can you post the full patch ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[patch] ti_usb id (Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.)
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 12:58:12PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:53:28AM +, Oleg Verych wrote: On 2006-11-16, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I have patch. Will be 2.6.20, as i was too late for .19. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.devel/48353 What does it do ? Just new id for an usb tool ? The description says : usb-serial: ti_usb, TI ez430 development tool ID Yes, to enable hotplug and driver to see that usb device. Driver is unmaintained a little bit, there is a bug with interpretation of module parameters, thus i want to push this patch, so users (there are a little number of us) may use it. Development tool is controller + programmer + debugger in usb-stick form factor. Can it be included, it's not stable stuff, as i was told? Id of the patch is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, can you post the full patch ? Friendly, Sven Luther It will be nice to have this in etch. Thanks. usb-serial: ti_usb, TI ez430 development tool ID Cc: Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Oleg Verych [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Please apply to stable and rc kernels. Thanks. drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.c |2 ++ drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.h |1 + 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+) Index: linux-source-2.6.18/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.c === *** linux-source-2.6.18.orig/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.c 2006-11-17 08:54:28.378314000 +0100 --- linux-source-2.6.18/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.c 2006-11-17 07:10:45.0 +0100 *** *** 228,233 --- 228,234 /* null entry */ static struct usb_device_id ti_id_table_3410[1+TI_EXTRA_VID_PID_COUNT+1] = { { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_3410_PRODUCT_ID) }, + { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_3410_EZ430_ID) }, }; static struct usb_device_id ti_id_table_5052[4+TI_EXTRA_VID_PID_COUNT+1] = { *** *** 239,244 --- 240,246 static struct usb_device_id ti_id_table_combined[] = { { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_3410_PRODUCT_ID) }, + { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_3410_EZ430_ID) }, { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_5052_BOOT_PRODUCT_ID) }, { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_5152_BOOT_PRODUCT_ID) }, { USB_DEVICE(TI_VENDOR_ID, TI_5052_EEPROM_PRODUCT_ID) }, Index: linux-source-2.6.18/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.h === *** linux-source-2.6.18.orig/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.h 2006-11-17 08:54:25.402128000 +0100 --- linux-source-2.6.18/drivers/usb/serial/ti_usb_3410_5052.h 2006-11-17 08:49:40.0 +0100 *** *** 28,33 --- 28,34 /* Vendor and product ids */ #define TI_VENDOR_ID 0x0451 #define TI_3410_PRODUCT_ID0x3410 + #define TI_3410_EZ430_ID 0xF430 /* TI ez430 development tool */ #define TI_5052_BOOT_PRODUCT_ID 0x5052 /* no EEPROM, no firmware */ #define TI_5152_BOOT_PRODUCT_ID 0x5152 /* no EEPROM, no firmware */ #define TI_5052_EEPROM_PRODUCT_ID 0x505A /* EEPROM, no firmware */ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:23:34AM +0100, Christian T. Steigies wrote: Moin, On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I'd like to re-enable building atari images for m68k, 2.6.18 with some patches is working on atari again and we might even haven two new drivers for network hardware (one of those is working on our uberfast Falcons already, they other one might, but we are still waiting for the hardware, that's how new it is). Unfortunately I am a little handicapped right now and I also managed to shoot down my atari, so it might be a little difficult to test, once I have the patches sorted out. This would not change anything with the existing m68k images, it would just (re-)add another one, which means we have to go through new, but we have to anyhow because of the abi change? Well, if you can send the patches, and they build, they can be included, and tested at a later time, and fixed if fixing is needed. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:23:34AM +0100, Christian T. Steigies wrote: As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I'd like to re-enable building atari images for m68k, 2.6.18 with some patches is working on atari again and we might even haven two new drivers for network hardware (one of those is working on our uberfast Falcons already, they other one might, but we are still waiting for the hardware, that's how new it is). Unfortunately I am a little handicapped right now and I also managed to shoot down my atari, so it might be a little difficult to test, once I have the patches sorted out. This would not change anything with the existing m68k images, it would just (re-)add another one, which means we have to go through new, but we have to anyhow because of the abi change? There's no reason that 2.6.18-6 would need to be the last kernel upload for etch, but given that we appear to be bound by an ABI change for LSB reasons, there is a very good reason to get 2.6.18-6 uploaded sooner rather than later so that other packages depending on the kernel ABI version (including d-i) can be updated. If you have time to get these fixes in by Sven's suggested deadline, I would welcome them. Otherwise, I would strongly encourage the kernel team to push 2.6.18-6 out and defer the amiga changes until -7. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 06:32:54AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther 64bit i386 kernels even if that adds time to the build. Live with it. Please provide patches to our svn packages that enable it. Just demanding stuff and expecting others to do the work is not nice :) Friendly, Sven Luther Check the BTS. Its been there for ages now. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 06:32:54AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther 64bit i386 kernels even if that adds time to the build. Live with it. Please provide patches to our svn packages that enable it. Just demanding stuff and expecting others to do the work is not nice :) Friendly, Sven Luther Check the BTS. Its been there for ages now. Bug number ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Check the BTS. Its been there for ages now. The patch is broken. Bastian -- Too much of anything, even love, isn't necessarily a good thing. -- Kirk, The Trouble with Tribbles, stardate 4525.6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
* Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061117 22:52]: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Check the BTS. Its been there for ages now. The patch is broken. Why? I hope that is documented in the bts - and if the patch is broken, the tag patch should be removed, btw. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. The ABI bump was requested and annonced where? Bastian -- Klingon phaser attack from front! 100% Damage to life support -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:52:45PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. The ABI bump was requested and annonced where? Consider this the announcement. And we all know about this since a week or two, including you :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 06:32:54AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther 64bit i386 kernels even if that adds time to the build. Live with it. Please provide patches to our svn packages that enable it. Just demanding stuff and expecting others to do the work is not nice :) Friendly, Sven Luther Check the BTS. Its been there for ages now. Bug number ? Friendly, Sven Luther #379090 MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 23:36]: Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? I should note that this is hopefully the last time we're changing the ABI for 2.6.18 before the release, so if you have any bigger config changes now's the time (and please test them!). -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:24:00PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 23:36]: Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? I should note that this is hopefully the last time we're changing the ABI for 2.6.18 before the release, so if you have any bigger config changes now's the time (and please test them!). If the abi needs changing in the near future, well, we will change it, obviously. I don't think there is a ny excuse for not going for a late abi bump if a abi-bumping security fix comes in, as we did for sarge. We have very nice infrastructure in place for that, and the rest of the uneeded work that still needs to be done manualy is from folk who resisted further automation, so ... Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 06:32:54AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther 64bit i386 kernels even if that adds time to the build. Live with it. Please provide patches to our svn packages that enable it. Just demanding stuff and expecting others to do the work is not nice :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? Friendly, Sven Luther 64bit i386 kernels even if that adds time to the build. Live with it. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for 2.6.18-6 kernel upload on monday 20th of november 2006.
Moin, On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Hi, ... As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch. It seems 2.6.18.3 is announced for saturday, so this would mean a natural tentative schedule of let's say monday the 20th of november 2006 as upload date. Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative deadline ? I'd like to re-enable building atari images for m68k, 2.6.18 with some patches is working on atari again and we might even haven two new drivers for network hardware (one of those is working on our uberfast Falcons already, they other one might, but we are still waiting for the hardware, that's how new it is). Unfortunately I am a little handicapped right now and I also managed to shoot down my atari, so it might be a little difficult to test, once I have the patches sorted out. This would not change anything with the existing m68k images, it would just (re-)add another one, which means we have to go through new, but we have to anyhow because of the abi change? Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]