Re: user-mode-linux 2.6.25 [was Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload]

2008-07-30 Thread Luk Claes
Mattia Dongili wrote:
 [d-boot probably not interested in this subtopic]
 
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:48:20PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 latest 2.6.25 stable release is in testing, we expect to keep it as backup
 plan for lenny.  release team wishes to have unstable coverage of 2.6.26
 before final ack on that release.

 PS: once uml 2.6.25 is in testing I'll be able to upload 2.6.26 to stay
 in sync with the current kernel sources.

uml 2.6.25 has migrated to testing in the meantime btw.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread maximilian attems
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, maximilian attems wrote:

 the current release blocker is the linux-libc-dev patch by
 waldi that is reviewed by vorlon to keep the lenny build chain stable.

patch incorporating review got in.
thanks waldi and vorlon!

i'll announce upload of 2.6.26-1 for tomorrow, will hit NEW.

currently open, but not blockers (they can be added on the way):
- vserver for 2.6.26
- openvz on ia64 arch

shall we give a README.Debian note on the vserser-xen flavour dropping?

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Re: user-mode-linux 2.6.25 [was Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload]

2008-07-29 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Mattia Dongili wrote:

 [d-boot probably not interested in this subtopic]
 
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:48:20PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
  latest 2.6.25 stable release is in testing, we expect to keep it as backup
  plan for lenny.  release team wishes to have unstable coverage of 2.6.26
  before final ack on that release.
 
 On a slightly separate but related note, I'm uploading
 user-mode-linux_2.6.25-2 now to fix a build error on x84_64.
 
 Uml 2.6.25 is not in testing yet (my fault, didn't have time to get on
 top of that recently) so I was wondering what are the plans for
 linux-source-2.6.25.
 Are you going to remove it from unstable and eventually realize the
 backup plan via tpu uploads?

2.6.25 linux source will be gone.

it is unlikely that the backup plan will come into effect.
 
 The current version in testing is unmaintainable as it build-depends on
 linux-source-2.6.24 which is not available anymore and it doesn't make
 any sense to realease it in lenny. On the other hand what is the
 scenario if 2.6.25 goes missing in unstable while uml is not in testing
 yet?

ask to push user-mode-linux soonest and update it when linux-2.6 hits
unstable which should be soonest.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:12:32 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:

 maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  shall we give a README.Debian note on the vserser-xen flavour dropping?
 
 I'd say a NEWS entry.
 
If the package doesn't exist anymore, it can't have a NEWS file.  And
spamming the users of every other image with a note that some flavour
they don't use got dropped doesn't sound optimal.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:53:22PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 i'll announce upload of 2.6.26-1 for tomorrow, will hit NEW.

Nack.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Otavio Salvador
maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 shall we give a README.Debian note on the vserser-xen flavour dropping?

I'd say a NEWS entry.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Otavio Salvador said:
 Julien Cristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:12:32 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 
  maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   shall we give a README.Debian note on the vserser-xen flavour dropping?
  
  I'd say a NEWS entry.
  
  If the package doesn't exist anymore, it can't have a NEWS file.  And
  spamming the users of every other image with a note that some flavour
  they don't use got dropped doesn't sound optimal.
 
 Right however it would be nice to warn him if he uses it. In this
 case, I think README.Debian is indeed the best option having your
 concern in mind.

README.Debian in which binary package?
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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Otavio Salvador
Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:53:22PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 i'll announce upload of 2.6.26-1 for tomorrow, will hit NEW.

 Nack.

Do you mind to be more descriptive?

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-29 Thread Otavio Salvador
Julien Cristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:12:32 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:

 maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  shall we give a README.Debian note on the vserser-xen flavour dropping?
 
 I'd say a NEWS entry.
 
 If the package doesn't exist anymore, it can't have a NEWS file.  And
 spamming the users of every other image with a note that some flavour
 they don't use got dropped doesn't sound optimal.

Right however it would be nice to warn him if he uses it. In this
case, I think README.Debian is indeed the best option having your
concern in mind.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-23 Thread Otavio Salvador
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maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 latest 2.6.25 stable release is in testing, we expect to keep it as backup
 plan for lenny.  release team wishes to have unstable coverage of 2.6.26
 before final ack on that release.

If this is the desire of Release Team, I have no problem on that.

I'd prefer to have it on experimental before upload it to unstable so
first and more urgent issues wouldn't bother us and users however this
is more up to you and RM team then me. My preference would be:

 - upload to experimental
 - wait for at least 5 days without issues
 - check for any possible building issues with new libc headers
 - upload to sid (since it has been proven more or less stable) 

When uploading to sid, I believe that meta packages should go together
so we do get a nice coverage on that.

After sometime on sid, I believe we ought to move d-i for it if it
looks to be a real option for lenny and try to release a first RC of
installer as soon as possible after that.

Thank you by coordinating it with us.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:02:26 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:

 I'd prefer to have it on experimental before upload it to unstable so
 first and more urgent issues wouldn't bother us and users however this
 is more up to you and RM team then me. My preference would be:
 
  - upload to experimental
  - wait for at least 5 days without issues

That's just adding an arbitrary 5 days delay.  Uploading to experimental
won't uncover new issues, because nobody uses packages in experimental.

Cheers,
Julien


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user-mode-linux 2.6.25 [was Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload]

2008-07-23 Thread Mattia Dongili
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:48:20PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 latest 2.6.25 stable release is in testing, we expect to keep it as backup
 plan for lenny.  release team wishes to have unstable coverage of 2.6.26
 before final ack on that release.

On a slightly separate but related note, I'm uploading
user-mode-linux_2.6.25-2 now to fix a build error on x84_64.

Uml 2.6.25 is not in testing yet (my fault, didn't have time to get on
top of that recently) so I was wondering what are the plans for
linux-source-2.6.25.
Are you going to remove it from unstable and eventually realize the
backup plan via tpu uploads?

The current version in testing is unmaintainable as it build-depends on
linux-source-2.6.24 which is not available anymore and it doesn't make
any sense to realease it in lenny. On the other hand what is the
scenario if 2.6.25 goes missing in unstable while uml is not in testing
yet?
I hope I've been able to explain my worries...

PS: once uml 2.6.25 is in testing I'll be able to upload 2.6.26 to stay
in sync with the current kernel sources.
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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:07:25PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:

  That's just adding an arbitrary 5 days delay.  Uploading to experimental
  won't uncover new issues, because nobody uses packages in experimental.

 Uploading it to sid, will make a revertion to .25 much harder if
 needed. Besides that, we'd need to know if it _at least_ builds on all
 architectures and then be ready to upload meta packages...

No, it really would be a waste of time.  2.6.25 is already in testing, so
t-p-u is still there as an update path; but no one on the kernel side is
really considering 2.6.25 to be an option for lenny, and the sooner we get
2.6.26 into unstable the sooner we can get everything smoothed out for
lenny.

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Re: imminent 2.6.26 sid upload

2008-07-22 Thread Aurelien Jarno
maximilian attems a écrit :
 latest 2.6.25 stable release is in testing, we expect to keep it as backup
 plan for lenny.  release team wishes to have unstable coverage of 2.6.26
 before final ack on that release.
 
 the current release blocker is the linux-libc-dev patch by
 waldi that is reviewed by vorlon to keep the lenny build chain stable.
 
 shortlist of 2.6.26 features:
 * ro bind mounts, udf 2.50
 * kgdb, kvm archs, better wireless drivers, uvcvideo
 * olpc, ps3 support
 * upstream coordination with xen and opevnz
 * lots of fixed 2.6.25 x86 regressions
 * request_firmware() work reenabling ip3, acenic and keyspan
 * arm, mips fixes
 * closing bunch of x86 regressions

That's nice to mention the fixed regressions (actually twice), but
that's not fair to not mention the new (unknown yet) regressions...

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