Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Christian PERRIER]

> > I can do this tonight if no one beats me to it.
> >
> Ok done, lets see if this helps.


FWIW, the "Lisa" mails to debian-l10-devel finally stopped. So, we may
expect that the description translations sync is *finally* working
again. Thanks to everybody who digged into the dust and finally fixed
the problem.

Special thanks to Thomas and Martijn who, from what I've seen, did
most of the needed work.




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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Joe Dalton]

We have a diff-file :o)


http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/i18n/Translation-da.diff/
2016-12-01-0229.24.gz   2016-12-01 02:35296K


Den ons 30/11/16 skrev Martijn van Oosterhout :

 Emne: Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been 
down for 6 months now
 Til: "Thomas Vincent" 
 Cc: "Joe Dalton" , "Debian I18n" 
, "Debian L10N Development" 
, "Martin Bagge / brother" 

 Dato: onsdag 30. november 2016 23.18
 
 
 
 On 30 November 2016 at
 09:21, Martijn van Oosterhout 
 wrote:
 On 30 Nov 2016
 00:13, "Thomas Vincent" 
 wrote:
 
 >
 
 > On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync
 options:
 
 >
 
 > > < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the
 command to "/usr/bin/rsync --server --sender -tre.Lsfx
 --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/." (different
 options)
 
 > >  I recently made dak's rsync call a bit
 restrictive and rsync is picky
 
 > about the options being the same on both sides
 
 > (https://lists.debian.org/
 debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014. html)
 
 >
 
 > Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the
 logs.
 
 >
 I can do this tonight if no one beats me to
 it.
 Ok done, lets see if this
 helps.
 
 Have a
 nice day, 
 -- 
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 http://svana.org/kleptog/
 

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On 30 November 2016 at 09:21, Martijn van Oosterhout 
wrote:

> On 30 Nov 2016 00:13, "Thomas Vincent"  wrote:
> >
> > On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options:
> >
> > > < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to "/usr/bin/rsync
> --server --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/."
> (different options)
> > >  I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is picky
> > about the options being the same on both sides
> > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html)
> >
> > Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the logs.
> >
>
> I can do this tonight if no one beats me to it.
>
Ok done, lets see if this helps.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On 30 Nov 2016 00:13, "Thomas Vincent"  wrote:
>
> On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options:
>
> > < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to "/usr/bin/rsync
--server --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/."
(different options)
> >  I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is picky
> about the options being the same on both sides
> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html)
>
> Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the logs.
>

I can do this tonight if no one beats me to it.

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martin Bagge / brother]

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On 2016-11-30 00:12, Thomas Vincent wrote:
> 
> On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options:
> 
>>> < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to
>>> "/usr/bin/rsync --server --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links .
>> /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/." (different options)
>>> I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is
>>> picky
> about the options being the same on both sides 
> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html)

Given that info I've changed my dak clone to
https://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git as the github-link from
yesterday did not contains these changes. The facts from the mail
still holds though, no real changes in those parts since 2009.

And for the parts kleptog points out wrt paths and so on I think that
sounds sensible and worth checking with People In The Know =)

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Thomas Vincent]

Hello,

Le 29/11/2016 à 22:41, Martijn van Oosterhout a écrit :
> The timestamp it should be referring to is the one here:
> 
> https://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/
> 
> That's the file that the DDTP downloads and uses to generate the files
> to upload. Why the script is not seeing it indicates some changed paths
> somewhere along the way? Probably means it's also checking the wrong
> place for other file too.


On #debian-ftp, ansgar suggested a change in rsync options:

> < ansgar> tvincent: Could you change the command to "/usr/bin/rsync --server 
> --sender -tre.Lsfx --safe-links . /srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/." (different 
> options)
>  I recently made dak's rsync call a bit restrictive and rsync is picky
about the options being the same on both sides
(https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2016/11/msg00014.html)

Maybe that would explain the rsync error in the logs.

Have a nice day.
Thomas



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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On 29 November 2016 at 10:46, Martin Bagge / brother 
wrote:

> On 2016-11-28 23:17, Thomas Vincent wrote:
> > On #debian-ftp, Thorsten Altenholz just provided me these logs:
> >
> >>> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  A, missing
> >>> the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n,
>
> 


> Inside that directory it expects a file called timestamp and that file
> hwas a value that will be used as TSTAMP variable. For some reason
> that value is set to something in the past (last successful execution?).
> At line 75 the check for the directory of that timestamp fails and the
> above message is shown (see line 91) and the familiar "arf arf" mails
> to debian-l10n-devel@l.d.o is sent (line 92).
>
>
The timestamp it should be referring to is the one here:

https://ftp-master.debian.org/i18n/

That's the file that the DDTP downloads and uses to generate the files to
upload. Why the script is not seeing it indicates some changed paths
somewhere along the way? Probably means it's also checking the wrong place
for other file too.

This proposal about changing the messages still holds some merit btw =)
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2013/05/msg00068.html
> I assume that the other parts of that message got taken care of since.
>
>
Oh that patch, yeah, that would be real nice :)

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martin Bagge / brother]

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On 2016-11-28 23:17, Thomas Vincent wrote:
> On #debian-ftp, Thorsten Altenholz just provided me these logs:
> 
>>> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  A, missing
>>> the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n,

Reading the dinstall.functions file that message seem to stem from
i18n1() where the following line is found.

https://github.com/lamby/dak/blob/master/config/debian/dinstall.function
s#L65

cd ${scriptdir}/i18nsync

Inside that directory it expects a file called timestamp and that file
hwas a value that will be used as TSTAMP variable. For some reason
that value is set to something in the past (last successful execution?).
At line 75 the check for the directory of that timestamp fails and the
above message is shown (see line 91) and the familiar "arf arf" mails
to debian-l10n-devel@l.d.o is sent (line 92).

The server with the file is probably fasolo then? I am not allowed to
SSH to it at least =)



This proposal about changing the messages still holds some merit btw =)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2013/05/msg00068.html
I assume that the other parts of that message got taken care of since.

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Thomas Vincent]

Le 28/11/2016 à 22:49, Thomas Vincent a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> Le 28/11/2016 à 20:01, Martijn van Oosterhout a écrit :
>> So the files can now be downloaded by dak, but I don't see any updates
>> on the ftp.debian.org . Any other ideas?
> 
> Yay! Progress! \o/
> Thanks a lot Martijn for taking time to investigate.
> 
> The error message we receive on l10n-devel still says:
> 
>> missing the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n
> 
> So although dak can now access the ddtp machine, it may be looking for a
> particular directory from the 18th of May without finding it?

On #debian-ftp, Thorsten Altenholz just provided me these logs:

> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  A, missing the timestamp 
> 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n, ARRR   
>   christoph 
> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  overflow: xflags=0x58 l1=0 
> l2=4534 lastname=\#203\#353\#030\#015timestamp.gpg [Receiver] 
>   cjwatson  
> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  ERROR: buffer overflow in 
> recv_file_entry [Receiver]
>Clint 
> Nov 28 19:52:21 fasolo dinstall[7163]: i18n1  rsync error: error allocating 
> core memory buffers (code 22) at util2.c(108) [Receiver=3.1.1]

Hope this helps.

Thomas



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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Thomas Vincent]

Hello,

Le 28/11/2016 à 20:01, Martijn van Oosterhout a écrit :
> So the files can now be downloaded by dak, but I don't see any updates
> on the ftp.debian.org . Any other ideas?

Yay! Progress! \o/
Thanks a lot Martijn for taking time to investigate.

The error message we receive on l10n-devel still says:

> missing the timestamp 201605182232 directory, not updating i18n

So although dak can now access the ddtp machine, it may be looking for a
particular directory from the 18th of May without finding it?

Have a nice day,
Thomas



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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

On 27 November 2016 at 23:27, Martijn van Oosterhout 
wrote:

>
> Now that I look in the logs I see these messages:
>
> Nov 27 19:52:15 ddtp sshd[20762]: Authentication tried for ddtp-dak with
> correct key but not from a permitted host (host=138.16.160.17,
> ip=138.16.160.17).
>
>
Ok, I've now got the following in the logs:

Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: Accepted publickey for ddtp-dak from
138.16.160.17 port 47875 ssh2
Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened
for user ddtp-dak by (uid=0)
Nov 28 13:53:07 ddtp sshd[31134]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed
for user ddtp-dak

So the files can now be downloaded by dak, but I don't see any updates on
the ftp.debian.org. Any other ideas?

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Andrey Skvortsov]

On 16-11-27 21:29, Thomas Vincent wrote:
> Hello Joe,
> 
> Le 27/11/2016 à 15:54, Joe Dalton a écrit :
> > Hi, us translators has a »small« issue with the update of our work. 
> 
> Yes, "small"… :)
> 
> > 
> > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/i18n/
> > hasn't seen an update for more than 6 months now and a new Debian version 
> > is in the horizon.
> > 
> > This is the last info I have found about the issue. Do we have anyone with 
> > the interest and skills to look into this?
> 
> Well, the issue is not really about interest nor skills as we are
> probably many people motivated in solving this.
> The real problem is about access: currently the ddtp/ddtss service is
> hosted on a machine that is accessible by very few people (I would say
> kleptog and bubulle) and these people are not as available as they used
> to be… :/

IIRC, because of that DDTP/DDTSS was moved to the new location
http://ddtp2.debian.net/debian/


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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Martijn van Oosterhout]

> Well, the issue is not really about interest nor skills as we are
> probably many people motivated in solving this.
> The real problem is about access: currently the ddtp/ddtss service is
> hosted on a machine that is accessible by very few people (I would say
> kleptog and bubulle) and these people are not as available as they used
> to be… :/
>
>
Well, the problem is that the whole process is so complicated and obscure
that when it doesn't work it takes ages to work out why.

The ddtp server is generating all the necessary files just fine, you can
find them here: http://ddtp2.debian.net/debian/

In another thread someone commented:

> On #debian-ftp, it has been suggested that the DDTP server may be
> missing the public key of the user ddtp-dak, or maybe the user itself.

IIRC the DDTP downloads via HTTP some signed files, generates the
translations, and signs the results. Dak should then download the files
from the DDTP via SSH. It does this using the following in the
authorized_keys file:

command="/usr/bin/rsync --server --sender -logDtpr .
/srv/ddtp-dinstall/to-dak/.",from="ries.debian.org,128.148.34.103,
franck.debian.org,128.148.34.3",no-agent-forwarding,no-port-forwarding,no-pty,no-X11-forwarding
ssh-rsa
B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAQEA5OLKpG43Iz1PmGgCgSL9VgnqV7p1Q3B/2rkzTLU3n57WqRwilPDr3oaGQQeBxS9NOSvGHO8KKPOcrTbAFAz5GUhdofjp2Eg0e+z5di+7QCGu/xesHn+NJuv8M2pq4h2VTpxS9KQttipNzZ2578y2wXo1zy3P7vnxiHu+a1JGs+XadurLcumy5746wuMEWuLwjCeY8AS+FgXuQbLoRJshOTC4NRWRfxV1CVWizoSts1WrKHTFmo5/W2Ao2NUXVpHKU2bmxUA1ooNDtu8mVgbZrYvrYrCcxeMqJVP+vVuU4tz6OGrgwwI+035QGiT34qAdAoKNQj4fpqtG17XFrzewww==
ddtp-dak@churro

Now that I look in the logs I see these messages:

Nov 27 19:52:15 ddtp sshd[20762]: Authentication tried for ddtp-dak with
correct key but not from a permitted host (host=138.16.160.17,
ip=138.16.160.17).

Maybe they changed IP? This appears to be a machine
http://fasolo.debian.org/ which is apparently the new alias for
ftp-master.debian.org?

What I've done now is changed the file to accept from that IP, see if that
helps.

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Re: [Debian-l10n-devel] Translation for Package descriptions has been down for 6 months now

[Thomas Vincent]

Hello Joe,

Le 27/11/2016 à 15:54, Joe Dalton a écrit :
> Hi, us translators has a »small« issue with the update of our work. 

Yes, "small"… :)

> 
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/i18n/
> hasn't seen an update for more than 6 months now and a new Debian version is 
> in the horizon.
> 
> This is the last info I have found about the issue. Do we have anyone with 
> the interest and skills to look into this?

Well, the issue is not really about interest nor skills as we are
probably many people motivated in solving this.
The real problem is about access: currently the ddtp/ddtss service is
hosted on a machine that is accessible by very few people (I would say
kleptog and bubulle) and these people are not as available as they used
to be… :/

So, unfortunately, all we can do is wait for someone with access to fix
the issue and/or grant access to someone who can do it.

Being a DDTSS translator myself, I know how frustrating it feels, but
let's not become demotivated. There is still time for the translations
to make it into Stretch. :)

Cheers,
Thomas



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