Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:16:31PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:32:01 -0400 > Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:11:37PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:15:51 -0400 > > > Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > > > > drive. > > > > > > > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > > > > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > > > > time comes to load the kernel? > > > > > > Perhaps Smart Boot Manager could help? > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ > > > http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm > > > > Useful .. but I'm pretty sure a boot loader can only go by what the > > BIOS is telling .. so I'm not hopeful. > > It's been a while since I played with SMB, and I never used it that > heavily, but IIUC, the system boots from the floppy, and then the SMB > code turns over control to a system on some other medium. > I don't see that BIOS limitations are necessarily relevant. I'll take a closer look. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:32:01 -0400 Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:11:37PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:15:51 -0400 > > Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > > > drive. > > > > > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > > > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > > > time comes to load the kernel? > > > > Perhaps Smart Boot Manager could help? > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ > > http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm > > Useful .. but I'm pretty sure a boot loader can only go by what the > BIOS is telling .. so I'm not hopeful. It's been a while since I played with SMB, and I never used it that heavily, but IIUC, the system boots from the floppy, and then the SMB code turns over control to a system on some other medium. I don't see that BIOS limitations are necessarily relevant. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:11:37PM EDT, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:15:51 -0400 > Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > > drive. > > > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > > time comes to load the kernel? > > Perhaps Smart Boot Manager could help? > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ > http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm Useful .. but I'm pretty sure a boot loader can only go by what the BIOS is telling .. so I'm not hopeful. The OpenBIOS project seems more likely to provide solutions in this respect. Trouble about playing with this is that you screw up .. or lose power .. you're dead ?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:40:00PM EDT, Rob Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 22:15 -0400, Chris Jones wrote: > > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > > drive. > > > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > > time comes to load the kernel? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Depending on how old the laptop in question is, you might check to see > if there is a newer bIOs that adds this functionality. I had checked the release notes .. saw nothing very useful .. just the usual entries re: Windows Me or Windows 2000 "server" compatibility. So I'm not taking chances and flashing my BIOS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 22:15 -0400, Chris Jones wrote: > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > drive. > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > time comes to load the kernel? > > Thanks! > > Depending on how old the laptop in question is, you might check to see if there is a newer bIOs that adds this functionality. Rob Smith Evolution - The Next Step in Email Posted via Ubuntu Linux (v.8.04) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:15:51 -0400 Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard > drive. > > Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting > off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the > time comes to load the kernel? Perhaps Smart Boot Manager could help? http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot old laptop off of USB flash drive?
This old laptop's BIOS only lets me boot off of a floppy/CD-ROM/hard drive. Is there any way I could boot off of a USB flash drive - as in booting off of a floppy or the hard drive and switching to /dev/sda when the time comes to load the kernel? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Laptop
Loren A. Linden Levy ha scritto: I have installed two old laptops that way, you can get the floppy images here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ It requires 3 floppies (boot,root and cdrom drivers) and the cd's . It is prety self explanantory but if you need help just ask. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0800 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:55:47PM -0500, jeremy pedersen wrote: I have an old laptop that does not have BIOS support for booting from cd. I am wondering, is there some way to create a boot floppy that can be used to find my CD drive, so that I can boot the debian installation from CDs? Might try: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can use an old potato distro wich has the install command that run from a dos/win boot disk, than you can "apt-cdrom add" your new cdset (something like sid) and upgrade your distro i did it for my epson action note pro c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Laptop
I have installed two old laptops that way, you can get the floppy images here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ It requires 3 floppies (boot,root and cdrom drivers) and the cd's . It is prety self explanantory but if you need help just ask. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0800 Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:55:47PM -0500, jeremy pedersen wrote: > > I have an old laptop that does not have BIOS support for booting from cd. I > > am wondering, is there some way to create a boot floppy that can be used to > > find my CD drive, so that I can boot the debian installation from CDs? > > Might try: > > http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ > > -- > Bill Moseley > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Loren A. Linden Levy 481 Loomis, Department of Physics University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 1110 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801-3080 Tel: 217-244-7995 Fax: 217-333-1215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://w3.physics.uiuc.edu/~lindenle/ _ - This email has been cryptographically signed. Search for "lindenle" at pgp.mit.edu to obtain my public key which can be used to verify the authenticity of this message. _ - pgplz2BOxpt9n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Old Laptop
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:55:47PM -0500, jeremy pedersen wrote: > I have an old laptop that does not have BIOS support for booting from cd. I > am wondering, is there some way to create a boot floppy that can be used to > find my CD drive, so that I can boot the debian installation from CDs? Might try: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Laptop
I have an old laptop that does not have BIOS support for booting from cd. I am wondering, is there some way to create a boot floppy that can be used to find my CD drive, so that I can boot the debian installation from CDs? *Note: This laptop is not capable of connecting to the internet, so downloading as I install is not an option Thanks, Jeremy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pcmciausb to my old laptop? maybe you can help me find one?
-- Ursprungligt meddelande --- Från: Henrik Le+Cleach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:14:01 GMT Ämne: Skicka kärlek, värme, grattis, ondska och humor! Sprayklubbens vykort har allt i känslor. http://vykort.spray.se --- Begin Message --- Hil!! I have exactly the same problem as you have... I can´t find any pcmcia with usb port for my old laptop either... Did you find any place to buy it? Kind regards Henrik Skicka kärlek, värme, grattis, ondska och humor! Sprayklubbens vykort har allt i känslor. http://vykort.spray.se --- End Message ---
pcmciausb to my old laptop? maybe you can help me find one?
-- Ursprungligt meddelande --- Från: Henrik Le+Cleach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:14:01 GMT Ämne: Skicka kärlek, värme, grattis, ondska och humor! Sprayklubbens vykort har allt i känslor. http://vykort.spray.se --- Begin Message --- Hil!! I have exactly the same problem as you have... I can´t find any pcmcia with usb port for my old laptop either... Did you find any place to buy it? Kind regards Henrik Skicka kärlek, värme, grattis, ondska och humor! Sprayklubbens vykort har allt i känslor. http://vykort.spray.se --- End Message ---
Re: Console-based PIM for old laptop ?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 05:23:26AM +0300, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Hello, > slightly OT, but is there any nice console-based PIM program > available ? > I need one since I have an old laptop & progs like evolution or > kpim are simply out of the question. > I already use abook to keep an addressbook, mainly cause it's > compatible with mutt, but I also need a prog to track my > schedule & appointments. > > ps. I'm thinking of .bashrc & cronjobs as alternatives... Since you also think of scripting... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache search appointment ccal - Colorised calendar utility ezpublish-src - CMS for e-commerce, e-publishing and intranets gcal - Prints calendars korganizer - KDE personal organizer lx-gdb - Dump and load databases from the HP palmtop mhc - Message Harmonized Calendaring system op-datebook-fb - Qt/Embedded datebook/appointment manager op-today-fb - Qt/Embedded today screen plan - X/Motif day planner (dynamically compiled with LessTif) remind - a sophisticated reminder service rxvt - VT102 terminal emulator for the X Window System rxvt-beta - VT102 terminal emulator for the X Window System xcal - a graphical calendar with memos and reminder alarms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show ccal Package: ccal Priority: optional Section: utils Installed-Size: 128 Maintainer: Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: cal Version: 3.5-4 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7) Filename: pool/main/c/cal/ccal_3.5-4_i386.deb Size: 24310 MD5sum: 2eabae907341d769a5cc948fdff612a5 Description: Colorised calendar utility CCAL is a drop in replacement for the standard unix calendar program. It includes support for color and daily, weekly, and yearly reminders/appointments. . This release contains bug fixes and new features including support for reading "reminder" data files. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show mhc Package: mhc Priority: optional Section: misc Installed-Size: 708 Maintainer: Fumitoshi UKAI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 0.25+20030224-1 Replaces: mhc-utils Depends: emacs21|emacs20|xemacs21-mule|xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn|mule2, wl (>= 2.4) | wl-beta (>= 2.3) | wanderlust2 (>= 2.2.10) | mew (>= 1:1.94) | t-gnus, semi(>=1.14) Recommends: mhc-utils, bitmap-mule Filename: pool/main/m/mhc/mhc_0.25+20030224-1_all.deb Size: 155802 MD5sum: 62bbdba6e3ba83c93d35a1dc3d4eb375 Description: Message Harmonized Calendaring system MHC is designed to help those who receive most appointments via email. Using MHC, you can easily import schedule articles from emails. . MHC has following features: + Simple data structure allows you to manipulate stored data in many ways. + Appointments can be made to repeat in flexible ways. + powerful but simple expression of appointments. + Multiple User Interface such as commandline/emacs/GUI/Web. MHC currently has following interfaces: + Elisp package cooperative with Mew, Wanderlust or Gnus (popular MUA in the Emacs world) (emacs/mhc.el) MHC stores schedule articles in the same form of MH; you can manipulate these messages not only by above tools but also by many other MUAs, editors, UNIX commandline tools or your own scripts. . For more information, you can find at http://www.quickhack.net/mhc/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show remind Package: remind Priority: optional Section: utils Installed-Size: 632 Maintainer: Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 03.00.22-1.1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) Suggests: tcl, wish Filename: pool/main/r/remind/remind_03.00.22-1.1_i386.deb Size: 224874 MD5sum: 98ba2eb54aabecaac44dba1a96f2d911 Description: a sophisticated reminder service Remind allows you to remind yourself of upcoming events and appointments via a reasonably easy to understand config file. Each reminder or alarm can consist of a message sent to standard output, or a program to be executed. . It also features: sophisticated date calculation, moon phases, sunrise/sunset, Hebrew calendar, alarms, PostScript output, tcl/tk front-end, multilingual messages, and proper handling of holidays. . Includes scripts for making a nice WWW calendar server (in the /usr/share/doc/remind/examples directory). And provides a graphical front-end for people who don't want to learn the scripting language. HTH, David -- Happy Birthday, Debian! August 16, 1993 http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/4959/
Re: Console-based PIM for old laptop ?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 05:23:26AM +0300, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Hello, > slightly OT, but is there any nice console-based PIM program > available ? > I need one since I have an old laptop & progs like evolution or > kpim are simply out of the question. > I already use abook to keep an addressbook, mainly cause it's > compatible with mutt, but I also need a prog to track my > schedule & appointments. > > ps. I'm thinking of .bashrc & cronjobs as alternatives... Since you also think of scripting... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache search appointment ccal - Colorised calendar utility ezpublish-src - CMS for e-commerce, e-publishing and intranets gcal - Prints calendars korganizer - KDE personal organizer lx-gdb - Dump and load databases from the HP palmtop mhc - Message Harmonized Calendaring system op-datebook-fb - Qt/Embedded datebook/appointment manager op-today-fb - Qt/Embedded today screen plan - X/Motif day planner (dynamically compiled with LessTif) remind - a sophisticated reminder service rxvt - VT102 terminal emulator for the X Window System rxvt-beta - VT102 terminal emulator for the X Window System xcal - a graphical calendar with memos and reminder alarms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show ccal Package: ccal Priority: optional Section: utils Installed-Size: 128 Maintainer: Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: cal Version: 3.5-4 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.3-7) Filename: pool/main/c/cal/ccal_3.5-4_i386.deb Size: 24310 MD5sum: 2eabae907341d769a5cc948fdff612a5 Description: Colorised calendar utility CCAL is a drop in replacement for the standard unix calendar program. It includes support for color and daily, weekly, and yearly reminders/appointments. . This release contains bug fixes and new features including support for reading "reminder" data files. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show mhc Package: mhc Priority: optional Section: misc Installed-Size: 708 Maintainer: Fumitoshi UKAI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 0.25+20030224-1 Replaces: mhc-utils Depends: emacs21|emacs20|xemacs21-mule|xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn|mule2, wl (>= 2.4) | wl-beta (>= 2.3) | wanderlust2 (>= 2.2.10) | mew (>= 1:1.94) | t-gnus, semi(>=1.14) Recommends: mhc-utils, bitmap-mule Filename: pool/main/m/mhc/mhc_0.25+20030224-1_all.deb Size: 155802 MD5sum: 62bbdba6e3ba83c93d35a1dc3d4eb375 Description: Message Harmonized Calendaring system MHC is designed to help those who receive most appointments via email. Using MHC, you can easily import schedule articles from emails. . MHC has following features: + Simple data structure allows you to manipulate stored data in many ways. + Appointments can be made to repeat in flexible ways. + powerful but simple expression of appointments. + Multiple User Interface such as commandline/emacs/GUI/Web. MHC currently has following interfaces: + Elisp package cooperative with Mew, Wanderlust or Gnus (popular MUA in the Emacs world) (emacs/mhc.el) MHC stores schedule articles in the same form of MH; you can manipulate these messages not only by above tools but also by many other MUAs, editors, UNIX commandline tools or your own scripts. . For more information, you can find at http://www.quickhack.net/mhc/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dfokkema$ apt-cache show remind Package: remind Priority: optional Section: utils Installed-Size: 632 Maintainer: Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 03.00.22-1.1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) Suggests: tcl, wish Filename: pool/main/r/remind/remind_03.00.22-1.1_i386.deb Size: 224874 MD5sum: 98ba2eb54aabecaac44dba1a96f2d911 Description: a sophisticated reminder service Remind allows you to remind yourself of upcoming events and appointments via a reasonably easy to understand config file. Each reminder or alarm can consist of a message sent to standard output, or a program to be executed. . It also features: sophisticated date calculation, moon phases, sunrise/sunset, Hebrew calendar, alarms, PostScript output, tcl/tk front-end, multilingual messages, and proper handling of holidays. . Includes scripts for making a nice WWW calendar server (in the /usr/share/doc/remind/examples directory). And provides a graphical front-end for people who don't want to learn the scripting language. HTH, David -- Happy Birthday, Debian! August 16, 1993 http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/4959/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Console-based PIM for old laptop ?
Hello, slightly OT, but is there any nice console-based PIM program available ? I need one since I have an old laptop & progs like evolution or kpim are simply out of the question. I already use abook to keep an addressbook, mainly cause it's compatible with mutt, but I also need a prog to track my schedule & appointments. ps. I'm thinking of .bashrc & cronjobs as alternatives... -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgppAeNCKeFh9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Console-based PIM for old laptop ?
Hello, slightly OT, but is there any nice console-based PIM program available ? I need one since I have an old laptop & progs like evolution or kpim are simply out of the question. I already use abook to keep an addressbook, mainly cause it's compatible with mutt, but I also need a prog to track my schedule & appointments. ps. I'm thinking of .bashrc & cronjobs as alternatives... -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Low-latency & pre-emptive patches for improving old laptop...
[20030721] Jaye Inabnit ke6sls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > BTW, the solo has a 850MHz Celery chip. That was why I elected to learn how > to patch kernels :) 850 mhz is a quite decent cpu for linux usage. I can even play divx/xvid videos on the laptop I mentioned with only a p2/233mhz cpu... Anyway thanx for answering. When I'll find some spare time I'll try these patches (or -ck, -wolk patchsets) on that laptop. Maybe I'll give 2.6.0-test1 a shot too, since it has lots of nice improvements versus 2.4.x, especially for laptops. -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgpaYIP9okL18.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Low-latency & pre-emptive patches for improving old laptop...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 21 July 2003 04:40 pm, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Hello all, > I just got a semi-broken old laptop (acer 701t - p2/233 - 32mb > ram - 3g hdd...) from a friend of mine, which I plan to fix & > use. I already installed debian sid on it & everything works > fine (even divx playback with mplayer :). > I have used low-latency & pre-emptive patches on some desktop > boxes in the past with no significant speed improvements (they > were quite fast already anyway), however I was wondering if > these patches should have any impact on this old laptop's > performance. > > Any suggestions ? In a word--yes. I have an old Gateway Solo 1200 laptop. It has winXP installed. The machine was very slow. Multimedia reproduction was terrible in many formats. Even playing quake2 was impossible after 2 minutes. Linux: I installed Libranet 2.8betas 1,2&3. I pulled down the patches for 2.4.20 kernel, learned how to apply them, then built kernels. Linux outperformed M$ hands down! It was wonderful to watch all the silly video clips, as well as those I make myself with my Kodak digital camera. I have not yet built any 2.4.21 kernels, but intuition tells me you won't be sorry if you decide to use them on any older machine. BTW, the solo has a 850MHz Celery chip. That was why I elected to learn how to patch kernels :) Good luck to you. Wishing you well. - -- Jaye InabnitA Debian-Gnu/Linux user If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: My key available from www.keyserver.net iD8DBQE/HIzHZHBxKsta6kMRAsZuAKCSvI3zinM99nZS0Dg3NxY9X8MnkACgol6l +ys5gXIcX0Oj8MLo1LEJMWk= =LcsI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Low-latency & pre-emptive patches for improving old laptop...
Hello all, I just got a semi-broken old laptop (acer 701t - p2/233 - 32mb ram - 3g hdd...) from a friend of mine, which I plan to fix & use. I already installed debian sid on it & everything works fine (even divx playback with mplayer :). I have used low-latency & pre-emptive patches on some desktop boxes in the past with no significant speed improvements (they were quite fast already anyway), however I was wondering if these patches should have any impact on this old laptop's performance. Any suggestions ? -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgpyFWpYYRFbX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Low-latency & pre-emptive patches for improving old laptop...
[20030721] Jaye Inabnit ke6sls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > BTW, the solo has a 850MHz Celery chip. That was why I elected to learn how > to patch kernels :) 850 mhz is a quite decent cpu for linux usage. I can even play divx/xvid videos on the laptop I mentioned with only a p2/233mhz cpu... Anyway thanx for answering. When I'll find some spare time I'll try these patches (or -ck, -wolk patchsets) on that laptop. Maybe I'll give 2.6.0-test1 a shot too, since it has lots of nice improvements versus 2.4.x, especially for laptops. -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Low-latency & pre-emptive patches for improving old laptop...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 21 July 2003 04:40 pm, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote: > Hello all, > I just got a semi-broken old laptop (acer 701t - p2/233 - 32mb > ram - 3g hdd...) from a friend of mine, which I plan to fix & > use. I already installed debian sid on it & everything works > fine (even divx playback with mplayer :). > I have used low-latency & pre-emptive patches on some desktop > boxes in the past with no significant speed improvements (they > were quite fast already anyway), however I was wondering if > these patches should have any impact on this old laptop's > performance. > > Any suggestions ? In a word--yes. I have an old Gateway Solo 1200 laptop. It has winXP installed. The machine was very slow. Multimedia reproduction was terrible in many formats. Even playing quake2 was impossible after 2 minutes. Linux: I installed Libranet 2.8betas 1,2&3. I pulled down the patches for 2.4.20 kernel, learned how to apply them, then built kernels. Linux outperformed M$ hands down! It was wonderful to watch all the silly video clips, as well as those I make myself with my Kodak digital camera. I have not yet built any 2.4.21 kernels, but intuition tells me you won't be sorry if you decide to use them on any older machine. BTW, the solo has a 850MHz Celery chip. That was why I elected to learn how to patch kernels :) Good luck to you. Wishing you well. - -- Jaye InabnitA Debian-Gnu/Linux user If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: My key available from www.keyserver.net iD8DBQE/HIzHZHBxKsta6kMRAsZuAKCSvI3zinM99nZS0Dg3NxY9X8MnkACgol6l +ys5gXIcX0Oj8MLo1LEJMWk= =LcsI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello all, I just got a semi-broken old laptop (acer 701t - p2/233 - 32mb ram - 3g hdd...) from a friend of mine, which I plan to fix & use. I already installed debian sid on it & everything works fine (even divx playback with mplayer :). I have used low-latency & pre-emptive patches on some desktop boxes in the past with no significant speed improvements (they were quite fast already anyway), however I was wondering if these patches should have any impact on this old laptop's performance. Any suggestions ? -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 17:25, Eric C. Cooper wrote: > 1. Configure the laptop as a router, by doing > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >This needs to be in some script that is run whenever the machine boots. > Easily done by editing /etc/networking/options > 3. Set up ipchains/iptables rules to control what comes into >your wired LAN from the airwaves. The iptables packages which comes with debian have a handy way of saving the iptable-rules you have setup. After you are satisfied you can issue an '/etc/init.d/iptables save active' This will make sure iptables are started every time you boot. -- Alexander Brill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.project23.no PGP-key: http://www.nettstudio.no/pgp/alexander.brill.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If you want the two cards to behave like one interface (with a single IP >number), that is a "bridge" and you want a kernel with CONFIG_BRIDGE >enabled and the bridge-utils. It's also possible to do a single-address proxy-arp router. See http://www.blars.org/sapaf.html for my draft writup of how to do this. -- Blars Blarson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blars.org/blars.html "Text is a way we cheat time." -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 10:20:20AM -0400, drew cohan wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find information on how to build a wireless > base station from an old laptop using debian? As of right now, I've been > able to setup a 486 laptop with eth0 & eth1, eth0 being wired and eth1 being > a wireless card under debian 3.0r1 with bf2.4 kernel (works well). What I > don't know how to do is to take information from eth0 and pass it onto eth1 > to act as a wireless base station. I do this with an old laptop, too. Here are the basics: 1. Configure the laptop as a router, by doing echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward This needs to be in some script that is run whenever the machine boots. If you build your own kernel, you'll want to go through the "optimize as router" options. Note that you'll have to use the wireless LAN in "Ad-Hoc" rather than "Managed" mode, unless you have a Prism2 card on the laptop and run the HostAP drivers. 2. Run a DHCP server on the laptop, configured so that it hands out the laptop's address as the default gateway for your wireless clients. 3. Set up ipchains/iptables rules to control what comes into your wired LAN from the airwaves. There are HOWTO's in the networking section that cover each of these in more detail. -- Eric C. Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 10:20:20AM -0400, drew cohan wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find information on how to build a wireless > base station from an old laptop using debian? As of right now, I've been > able to setup a 486 laptop with eth0 & eth1, eth0 being wired and eth1 being > a wireless card under debian 3.0r1 with bf2.4 kernel (works well). What I > don't know how to do is to take information from eth0 and pass it onto eth1 > to act as a wireless base station. If you want the system to act as an access point, i.e., do the 802.11 management functions, then you need to use a Prism card and use the HostAP driver. http://hostap.epitest.fi/ http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/hostap-source.html http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/hostap-source.html If you want the two cards to correspond to two interfaces, then it is probably sufficient to do "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and set up the appropriate routes on the client machines. If you want the two cards to behave like one interface (with a single IP number), that is a "bridge" and you want a kernel with CONFIG_BRIDGE enabled and the bridge-utils. http://bridge.sourceforge.net/faq.html http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/bridge-utils.html http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/bridge-utils.html http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/bridge-utils.html If you want to combine bridging and firewalling, then you need to patch the kernel. http://bridge.sourceforge.net/devel/bridge-nf/ I learned this from the book _802.11 security_. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/80211security/
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
Le 12161ième jour après Epoch, drew cohan écrivait: > Hi, > > Does anyone know where I can find information on how to build a wireless > base station from an old laptop using debian? As of right now, I've been > able to setup a 486 laptop with eth0 & eth1, eth0 being wired and eth1 being > a wireless card under debian 3.0r1 with bf2.4 kernel (works well). What I > don't know how to do is to take information from eth0 and pass it onto eth1 > to act as a wireless base station. Do the same with wired cards :) Specify ip_forward=yes into /etc/network/options is the first step. There is probably a good HOWTO describing routing linux systems. I use firestarter. It is a GTK+ (also works under Window Maker) app that builds you an iptables script. It has a neat little wizard that asks you if you want to enable things like ipmasquerading, certain ports and services, and then builds you script and starts the filtering services. -Roberto _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: using an old laptop as a base station
Le 12161ième jour après Epoch, drew cohan écrivait: > Hi, > > Does anyone know where I can find information on how to build a wireless > base station from an old laptop using debian? As of right now, I've been > able to setup a 486 laptop with eth0 & eth1, eth0 being wired and eth1 being > a wireless card under debian 3.0r1 with bf2.4 kernel (works well). What I > don't know how to do is to take information from eth0 and pass it onto eth1 > to act as a wireless base station. Do the same with wired cards :) Specify ip_forward=yes into /etc/network/options is the first step. There is probably a good HOWTO describing routing linux systems. -- He who is in love with himself has at least this advantage -- he won't encounter many rivals. -- Georg Lichtenberg, "Aphorisms" -- François TOURDE - tourde.org - 23 rue Bernard GANTE - 93250 VILLEMOMBLE Tél: 01 49 35 96 69 - Mob: 06 81 01 81 80 eMail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL: http://francois.tourde.org/
using an old laptop as a base station
Hi, Does anyone know where I can find information on how to build a wireless base station from an old laptop using debian? As of right now, I've been able to setup a 486 laptop with eth0 & eth1, eth0 being wired and eth1 being a wireless card under debian 3.0r1 with bf2.4 kernel (works well). What I don't know how to do is to take information from eth0 and pass it onto eth1 to act as a wireless base station. TIA Drew
Re: Old laptop
* Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-17 06:17] : > I've setup an old Dell laptop with Debian and have a couple of questions: [...] > (2) If I don't want to start in the graphical environment, where do I set > that? Remove the package [gkx]dm or use update-rc.d (look at the manpage for usage) to change /etc/rc2.d/S99[gkx]dm to K99[gkx]dm, depending on which is really installed on your system. Fred
Re: Old laptop
Hi, Time to learn about XF86Config. You may actually have a 1024x768 "virtual" display, where it will pan things within the 800x600. It'd check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, and do some searching on the web for the "Linux on Laptops" page, and get an XF86Config file for your specific machine if possible, avoiding the research trial/error. I forget the run-lavel assignment on Debian, I use Redhat now, but there should be comments in the /etc/inittab file which is where you can change how the system boots up, as far as graphical or text by default. Good Luck, John - Original Message - From: "Michael Satterwhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:17 AM Subject: Old laptop I've setup an old Dell laptop with Debian and have a couple of questions: (1) I know I gave it my maximum screen resolution in the install, but it seems to be sizing the screen as if there's more real estate than it actually has. (e.g. my screen is max 800x600, it looks like it's trying to send data to 1024x762 - everyting is spilling over the edges). I don't see the place to change that. (2) If I don't want to start in the graphical environment, where do I set that? Appreciate all help ---Michael -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old laptop
I've setup an old Dell laptop with Debian and have a couple of questions: (1) I know I gave it my maximum screen resolution in the install, but it seems to be sizing the screen as if there's more real estate than it actually has. (e.g. my screen is max 800x600, it looks like it's trying to send data to 1024x762 - everyting is spilling over the edges). I don't see the place to change that. (2) If I don't want to start in the graphical environment, where do I set that? Appreciate all help ---Michael -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:59:30 +0100 Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello World, Re World, ;-) > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > > printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and > > export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be > > possible to install via NFS. I finally set it up. Instead of using NFS, I installed the system using HTTP as Hubert Chan had suggested (Thank you). The effective setup of the printserver was mostly a trial and error exercise as the documentation is not as good as I have expected... Thank you all for helping and a happy new year! Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook pgp7lV7rwXic0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:59:30 +0100 Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello World, Re World, ;-) > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > printserver. The >problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and > export >(NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be > possible to >install via NFS. I finally set it up. Instead of using NFS, I installed the system using HTTP as Hubert Chan had suggested (Thank you). The effective setup of the printserver was mostly a trial and error exercise as the documentation is not as good as I have expected... Thank you all for helping and a happy new year! Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook msg06155/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
Hello Andreas; Soemething went wrong wenn I påosted this the first time, once more: Debian 2.2r4 is asking you by install wether if you wants to use PCMCIA by installing or not. How to do this, and what modules, that I dont know... Axel > Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hello World, > > > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > > printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the > laptop > > and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it > should > > be possible to install via NFS. > > > > My questions: > > Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia > modules > > (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? > > > > Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a > > printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? > > > > Thank you for your answers. > > > > Best regards > > Andreas > > -- > > Andreas Tscharner > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > > build > > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to > > produce > > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich > Cook > > > > > > > > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello World, > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop > and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should > be possible to install via NFS. > > My questions: > Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules > (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? > > Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a > printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? > > Thank you for your answers. > > Best regards > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to > produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
Hello Andreas; Soemething went wrong wenn I påosted this the first time, once more: Debian 2.2r4 is asking you by install wether if you wants to use PCMCIA by installing or not. How to do this, and what modules, that I dont know... Axel > Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hello World, > > > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > > printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the > laptop > > and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it > should > > be possible to install via NFS. > > > > My questions: > > Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia > modules > > (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? > > > > Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a > > printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? > > > > Thank you for your answers. > > > > Best regards > > Andreas > > -- > > Andreas Tscharner > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > > build > > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to > > produce > > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich > Cook > > > > > > > > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello World, > > I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as > printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. > > So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop > and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should > be possible to install via NFS. > > My questions: > Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules > (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? > > Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a > printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? > > Thank you for your answers. > > Best regards > Andreas > -- > Andreas Tscharner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to > produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Andreas" == Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Andreas> My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) Andreas> have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have Andreas> to make a boot floppy myself? It has PCMCIA modules. My network card claims to be an NE2000 compatible (It's a Linksys), and it was recognized properly, so NE2000 should be no problem. Whether or not it will be able to recognize _your_ card is a different story, but I don't think there should be any problems. I would assume that it has whatever NFS modules, since IIRC NFS is one of the installation options. But I always just install over http, so I don't know about this one. Andreas> Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a Andreas> printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? For Windows, you'd have to look into samba. There is a samba HOWTO that you can look at. You'll also have to pick which printer daemon to use - -- there's lpr, lprng, and CUPS that I know of. I think that all of them can be used with samba. For getting them to work with Linux clients, probably the hardest part is just configuring the clients. - -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.geocities.com/hubertchan/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/71FDA37F Fingerprint: 6CC5 822D 2E55 494C 81DD 6F2C 6518 54DF 71FD A37F Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8HnzsZRhU33H9o38RAi93AJ0f8VIzlnwgB6+bxf/tJy8QIcB1iQCfc9kh WDKYT/RTzPvVFexRzZkwxdk= =IpZF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Old Laptop as printserver
Hello World, I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be possible to install via NFS. My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? Thank you for your answers. Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook pgpzcWf9cFfXu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Old Laptop as printserver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Andreas" == Andreas Tscharner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Andreas> My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) Andreas> have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have Andreas> to make a boot floppy myself? It has PCMCIA modules. My network card claims to be an NE2000 compatible (It's a Linksys), and it was recognized properly, so NE2000 should be no problem. Whether or not it will be able to recognize _your_ card is a different story, but I don't think there should be any problems. I would assume that it has whatever NFS modules, since IIRC NFS is one of the installation options. But I always just install over http, so I don't know about this one. Andreas> Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a Andreas> printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? For Windows, you'd have to look into samba. There is a samba HOWTO that you can look at. You'll also have to pick which printer daemon to use - -- there's lpr, lprng, and CUPS that I know of. I think that all of them can be used with samba. For getting them to work with Linux clients, probably the hardest part is just configuring the clients. - -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.geocities.com/hubertchan/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/71FDA37F Fingerprint: 6CC5 822D 2E55 494C 81DD 6F2C 6518 54DF 71FD A37F Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8HnzsZRhU33H9o38RAi93AJ0f8VIzlnwgB6+bxf/tJy8QIcB1iQCfc9kh WDKYT/RTzPvVFexRzZkwxdk= =IpZF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Laptop as printserver
Hello World, I have an old DX-4 (80486 - 100MHz) laptop. I want to use it as printserver. The problem is: It has no CD-drive. So my idea was to use my NE2000 compatible network card on the laptop and export (NFS) my CD drive on my desktop computer. Therefore it should be possible to install via NFS. My questions: Do the standard boot disks from potato (2.2rc0) have the pcmcia modules (NE 2000) and NFS modules or do I have to make a boot floppy myself? Is there anywhere on the net an installation guide to set up a printserver (used from Linux and from Windows side)? Thank you for your answers. Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook msg05957/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop
> Hi folks, > > I originally posted this to debian-user, but was advised to repost it > here. I have a curious thought, which is sneaky but probably should work. Since once upon a time a slink install obviously worked fine ... install slink base (plus apt, if you had to tag for it seperately) *only* - ought to be lots smaller than your fully usable setup. reboot adjust apt to point at woody/unstable apt-get update && apt-get install console-apt adjust apt to point at potato/stable use console-apt to pick things in reasonably sized chunks so you don't overflow your new /var/cache/apt area. I've done this myself with pretty good success. One time I went even further and symlinked /var/cache/apt/archives into an, ahem, much larger space while I did the upgrades. It's a lot slower than just reloading your selections list (gotten via dpkg --get-selections > /mnt/floppy/oldpicks ... and loaded anew via dpkg --set-selections :> ) but, it does have the advantage of being a bit controllable. Also we've a lot more packages than we used to, maybe of several that do similar things you want to try a new one, so you'll have the freedom to read the descriptions and "go shopping". If console-apt bombs out on you, run apt-get update and then launch capt again (capt is console-apt's real name)... if it does it *again* use apt-get install since it probably has some rude message for you (dependency resolution usually). * Heather Stern * star@ many places... > - Forwarded message from Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:01:20 +1100 > From: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop > To: Debian User List > > Hi gang, > > I have an old 486 laptop, an NEC UltraLite VERSA, with 8m of RAM. Up > until today I'd been happily running bo (I think, a few releases ago > anyway) on it, mainly using it as a dumb terminal so I can lay in bed > and read my email. For a while I'd wanted to upgrade it, mainly because > I wanted a DHCP client on it and there is now no-where you can get > packages for the old version. > > I wanted to do a fresh install, mainly because there is so little HD > space to use apt to install. Also because I wanted to resize the swap > partition. > > Anyway, I can get most of the way through the install, and PCMCIA card > services recognises both my pc card modem and network card. This should > be a good thing, as I need to install it over the network. However, when > I tell it to use DHCP to get an IP address, it says something like: > > Hw address write mishap > > (something like that, it scrolls away too quickly), then the screen > fills up with the following: > > eth0: Mismatched read page pointers 1 vs 0. > > And repeats ad-nauseum until the install program times out and kills it. > The same thing also happens if I try to anything network-y manually, > except I can't kill it. > > I know this card works with debian, as I've been using it with an older > debian on the same machine for a long time (years, probably). I have > never had a problem with it before. cardmgr recognises the card as a > `Danplex EN-6200P2' if that helps anyone, and it's using the pcnet_cs.o > and 8390.o modules. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > cheers, > > damon > > -- > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, > http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... > PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" > > > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, > http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... > PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" [application/pgp-signature is not supported, skipping...]
PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop
Hi folks, I originally posted this to debian-user, but was advised to repost it here. - Forwarded message from Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:01:20 +1100 From: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop To: Debian User List Hi gang, I have an old 486 laptop, an NEC UltraLite VERSA, with 8m of RAM. Up until today I'd been happily running bo (I think, a few releases ago anyway) on it, mainly using it as a dumb terminal so I can lay in bed and read my email. For a while I'd wanted to upgrade it, mainly because I wanted a DHCP client on it and there is now no-where you can get packages for the old version. I wanted to do a fresh install, mainly because there is so little HD space to use apt to install. Also because I wanted to resize the swap partition. Anyway, I can get most of the way through the install, and PCMCIA card services recognises both my pc card modem and network card. This should be a good thing, as I need to install it over the network. However, when I tell it to use DHCP to get an IP address, it says something like: Hw address write mishap (something like that, it scrolls away too quickly), then the screen fills up with the following: eth0: Mismatched read page pointers 1 vs 0. And repeats ad-nauseum until the install program times out and kills it. The same thing also happens if I try to anything network-y manually, except I can't kill it. I know this card works with debian, as I've been using it with an older debian on the same machine for a long time (years, probably). I have never had a problem with it before. cardmgr recognises the card as a `Danplex EN-6200P2' if that helps anyone, and it's using the pcnet_cs.o and 8390.o modules. Does anyone have any suggestions? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" - End forwarded message - -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" pgpdzpTxfts4P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop
> Hi folks, > > I originally posted this to debian-user, but was advised to repost it > here. I have a curious thought, which is sneaky but probably should work. Since once upon a time a slink install obviously worked fine ... install slink base (plus apt, if you had to tag for it seperately) *only* - ought to be lots smaller than your fully usable setup. reboot adjust apt to point at woody/unstable apt-get update && apt-get install console-apt adjust apt to point at potato/stable use console-apt to pick things in reasonably sized chunks so you don't overflow your new /var/cache/apt area. I've done this myself with pretty good success. One time I went even further and symlinked /var/cache/apt/archives into an, ahem, much larger space while I did the upgrades. It's a lot slower than just reloading your selections list (gotten via dpkg --get-selections > /mnt/floppy/oldpicks ... and loaded anew via dpkg --set-selections :> ) but, it does have the advantage of being a bit controllable. Also we've a lot more packages than we used to, maybe of several that do similar things you want to try a new one, so you'll have the freedom to read the descriptions and "go shopping". If console-apt bombs out on you, run apt-get update and then launch capt again (capt is console-apt's real name)... if it does it *again* use apt-get install since it probably has some rude message for you (dependency resolution usually). * Heather Stern * star@ many places... > - Forwarded message from Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:01:20 +1100 > From: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop > To: Debian User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi gang, > > I have an old 486 laptop, an NEC UltraLite VERSA, with 8m of RAM. Up > until today I'd been happily running bo (I think, a few releases ago > anyway) on it, mainly using it as a dumb terminal so I can lay in bed > and read my email. For a while I'd wanted to upgrade it, mainly because > I wanted a DHCP client on it and there is now no-where you can get > packages for the old version. > > I wanted to do a fresh install, mainly because there is so little HD > space to use apt to install. Also because I wanted to resize the swap > partition. > > Anyway, I can get most of the way through the install, and PCMCIA card > services recognises both my pc card modem and network card. This should > be a good thing, as I need to install it over the network. However, when > I tell it to use DHCP to get an IP address, it says something like: > > Hw address write mishap > > (something like that, it scrolls away too quickly), then the screen > fills up with the following: > > eth0: Mismatched read page pointers 1 vs 0. > > And repeats ad-nauseum until the install program times out and kills it. > The same thing also happens if I try to anything network-y manually, > except I can't kill it. > > I know this card works with debian, as I've been using it with an older > debian on the same machine for a long time (years, probably). I have > never had a problem with it before. cardmgr recognises the card as a > `Danplex EN-6200P2' if that helps anyone, and it's using the pcnet_cs.o > and 8390.o modules. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > cheers, > > damon > > -- > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, > http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... > PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" > > > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, > http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... > PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" [application/pgp-signature is not supported, skipping...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop
Hi folks, I originally posted this to debian-user, but was advised to repost it here. - Forwarded message from Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:01:20 +1100 From: Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop To: Debian User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi gang, I have an old 486 laptop, an NEC UltraLite VERSA, with 8m of RAM. Up until today I'd been happily running bo (I think, a few releases ago anyway) on it, mainly using it as a dumb terminal so I can lay in bed and read my email. For a while I'd wanted to upgrade it, mainly because I wanted a DHCP client on it and there is now no-where you can get packages for the old version. I wanted to do a fresh install, mainly because there is so little HD space to use apt to install. Also because I wanted to resize the swap partition. Anyway, I can get most of the way through the install, and PCMCIA card services recognises both my pc card modem and network card. This should be a good thing, as I need to install it over the network. However, when I tell it to use DHCP to get an IP address, it says something like: Hw address write mishap (something like that, it scrolls away too quickly), then the screen fills up with the following: eth0: Mismatched read page pointers 1 vs 0. And repeats ad-nauseum until the install program times out and kills it. The same thing also happens if I try to anything network-y manually, except I can't kill it. I know this card works with debian, as I've been using it with an older debian on the same machine for a long time (years, probably). I have never had a problem with it before. cardmgr recognises the card as a `Danplex EN-6200P2' if that helps anyone, and it's using the pcnet_cs.o and 8390.o modules. Does anyone have any suggestions? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" - End forwarded message - -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" PGP signature
Re: X on an old laptop
> I haven't found a debian version that will run on a 386 but here are a few > links to some minimal slackware versions. [snipped] > -- Andy It may not be a laptop but starshine.org's internal mailhub is a 386, running debian, and a fairly happy camper it is too. Disk space may be an issue; how to install it might be tricksy; but the CPU certainly is not a problem. Anyways, it runs X fine ... better than one of the other clunkers around the place, an EISA 486. But the vidcard in that monster is crappy, whereas the 386 has an extremely well supported Oak. Not that I -recommend- this, it's still slow as F'ing molasses compared to all the laptops in the house (min. P133 with more vidram than it has). Use one of the wm's that keeps screen effects minimal (sawmill perhaps) and it'll probably feel rather spiffy. I use fvwm but the only toy I load is Buttons. > P.S. If there are mini-debian versions let me know I'm compiling an > exhaustive list of all linux distro's. Or if you know a link to a > mini-debian HowTo please forward that as well. Mini to me means > floppy (1-10) install. pygmy is 6 floppy's and runs as loop-linux. > inside windows. >From my recent delving into the longer-than-anyone-really-wanted-to-read list at LWN: floppyfw http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/ "Floppy firewall" - essentially a screening router. debian based but probably not designed for update that way. DLite http://opensrc.org/dlite/dlite.html Debian Lite for ISPs. Predated apt, is still ongoing tho. Laetos http://www.laetos.org/ Seems o be young project to have better installer for Debian. normal sized, not floppy - Bad Penguin (italian), PROSA(also italian), and Libranet. plus of course Debian itself, Corel, and Storm. To summarize, yeah, there's a few derivates that are small, but no close relatives are (by default anyway). btw I haven't tried Corel, but Storm hated the video on the laptop that I tried it on. SInce the install wants to be graphical I didn't go far, I was getting dizzy :P > On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 07:23:59PM -0500, John Parejko wrote: > > So, what do you all think my chances are of getting X working on a Zeos > > Laptop 386 (yes, that is its name). It is a 386SX/16 with 4 megs of ram, > > and a 540 meg HDD (I upgraded it to that, up from a 20). I've got Debian > > on it right now, and it is pretty happy (mmm... 6 virtual terminals... DOS > > can't do that ;-). [snip]
Re: X on an old laptop
Hi, I(m using a T2000Sx Toshiba notebook with a 386SX-25 and a monochrome VGA board inside. There is no hard disk, but I have an expansion memory card (8Mb) plugged in and a parallel ZIP drive with Debian 1.2 installed on a disk (I boot the kernel from a floppy, and then the kernel mounts the root filesystem from the zip drive). I have tried the VGA mono server once, it worked, but was kinda slow (10Mb swap on a ZIP drive doesn't help much). However, once it was up and running (bare fvwm as a window manager), it was quite smooth (mouse cursor wasn't sluggish). Although this setup ate all the laptop's memory, I believe that I can do better by removing still some more fonts and/or changing my shell to something smaller than bash (running less getty's and removing the few daemons - cron, atd - I have running would probably help, too). Note that I haven't tried (and won't, actually) updating the distro to anything newer, because AFAIK nothing recent will fit in so small a configuration. And I had to install on the ZIP disk using another computer, too, because this laptop doesn't have PCMCIA nor CD drive, and installing on such a model via PPP would be a pain. On the other hand, I don't really have to update, because it works perfectly well (as I said, I don't use X on it) and is even able to drive an external modem or be connected via PPP to my local network. This is probably not useful anyhow, but you wanted a success report ;-) Best regards raph -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/TW/MU d(+) s:- a-- C++ UL++>+$ P+ L+++>+ E- W N o? K? (!)w-- O? M V? PS+ !PE Y PGP+ t? 5? X++@ R? !tv b+++ DI? D+ G++ e h r(-)% y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, John Parejko wrote: > So, what do you all think my chances are of getting X working on a Zeos > Laptop 386 (yes, that is its name). It is a 386SX/16 with 4 megs of ram, > and a 540 meg HDD (I upgraded it to that, up from a 20). I've got Debian > on it right now, and it is pretty happy (mmm... 6 virtual terminals... DOS > can't do that ;-). > > Does anyone else have any experience with getting X running on something > about this old? I've given it a 64M swap partition (or maybe 80M, I'm not > sure). Screen is a Mono LCD... so it won't be pretty, but it would be > interesting to try anyway. > > and I can't seem to get the modem to work, but I think I just need to futz > with it. > > anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated. > > thanx > me > > - > John Parejko > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Student, Carleton College > - > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
