AW: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
I have a Zyair WLAN DSL Access Point Router too (think its B2000 v2, bought from the provider 1&1 in germany). I had a lot of problems with this box. The first one had defect hardware and the second one made awfull problems until I upgraded the Firmware (can be downloaded at Zyxel site). Banana product, ripe at the customers home ;-) Before you waste time in troubleshooting I recommend to upgrade that firmware. In my case it brought up completly new menu points in the management GUI :-O. It was astonishing!!! It is a 4 port switch and access point in one device. You connect to it like to an ethernet switch port, plugging a stupid ethernet cable (cross over cable may work also) or you can connect to it like to a regular wireless access point (assumed that essid, WEP encr. keys, MAC address filters etc are set up correctly in the wireless case) PPPoE is not necessary and not possible to use with your notebook since it is a router and communicate with the DSL box on another interface. Also you don't have influence when the device is registering at the providers access servers and set up Internet connection. It is transparent to the notenbook client. Checking out the following may help to specify the problem: * Connect to a ethernet port, check the default adress of router (e.g.192.168.1.1/24), set yout notebook to 192.168.1.2/24 and ping and maybe tcpdump to watch if arp packets are going around. * If this is fine level 2, ethernet layer should be fine. Try than to connect to the Management Gui on port 80 of the box and check the config... * Additionally you may try if the dhcp service of the router is working: #dhcpcd -some_debug_flags The logs on the router should show you information. * Than you can configure the wireless things and try to register with yout notebook to the WLAN * In parallel you may try to connect to the DSL router directly and register at the providers network using PPPoE. You can also try this with a windows box, its most easy and you can check if your providers account data is fine and working. * Set the timeout value on the Router high (15 minutes). I had also timeout problems because the Internet connection was going down after 3 minutes automatically and new access to the Internet caused new RADIUS requests to get connectivity which causes timeouts at the browser and the name service and so on :-( If you like to exchange experience with me, you could contact me offline. regards and good luck Erik Hofmann >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Daniel Pittman >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2004 03:13 >An: [email protected] >Betreff: Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator > > >On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an >existing message and change all the details - some hidden >features, like >the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message >shows up in the middle of another running subject... > >> So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet >> access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it >told me that >> the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. > >Well, that may well be the problem. You may need to use some special >extra settings in the PPPoE packets, or a fixed MAC address or >something >like that. > >Alternately, it could be an issue with your use of the router, rather >than a PPPoE issue directly. > >> I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem >> is? > >That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the >PPPoE layer internally? > >Most modern DSL modems do all the PPPoE work themselves, and expect you >to connect to a DHCP server on them before they activate the link. >Annoying, but workable. > >A quick search shows a bunch of Zyair 2000 wireless router devices, but >none that claim to feature ADSL support, so I can't comment directly. > > >How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to >derive the operating mode correctly. > > Daniel >-- >We fear that pop-culture is the only culture we're ever going to have. >We want to stop reading magazines, stop watching tv, stop caring about >Hollywood, but we're addicted to the things we hate. >-- KMFDM, _Dogma_ > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
AW: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
I have a Zyair WLAN DSL Access Point Router too (think its B2000 v2, bought from the provider 1&1 in germany). I had a lot of problems with this box. The first one had defect hardware and the second one made awfull problems until I upgraded the Firmware (can be downloaded at Zyxel site). Banana product, ripe at the customers home ;-) Before you waste time in troubleshooting I recommend to upgrade that firmware. In my case it brought up completly new menu points in the management GUI :-O. It was astonishing!!! It is a 4 port switch and access point in one device. You connect to it like to an ethernet switch port, plugging a stupid ethernet cable (cross over cable may work also) or you can connect to it like to a regular wireless access point (assumed that essid, WEP encr. keys, MAC address filters etc are set up correctly in the wireless case) PPPoE is not necessary and not possible to use with your notebook since it is a router and communicate with the DSL box on another interface. Also you don't have influence when the device is registering at the providers access servers and set up Internet connection. It is transparent to the notenbook client. Checking out the following may help to specify the problem: * Connect to a ethernet port, check the default adress of router (e.g.192.168.1.1/24), set yout notebook to 192.168.1.2/24 and ping and maybe tcpdump to watch if arp packets are going around. * If this is fine level 2, ethernet layer should be fine. Try than to connect to the Management Gui on port 80 of the box and check the config... * Additionally you may try if the dhcp service of the router is working: #dhcpcd -some_debug_flags The logs on the router should show you information. * Than you can configure the wireless things and try to register with yout notebook to the WLAN * In parallel you may try to connect to the DSL router directly and register at the providers network using PPPoE. You can also try this with a windows box, its most easy and you can check if your providers account data is fine and working. * Set the timeout value on the Router high (15 minutes). I had also timeout problems because the Internet connection was going down after 3 minutes automatically and new access to the Internet caused new RADIUS requests to get connectivity which causes timeouts at the browser and the name service and so on :-( If you like to exchange experience with me, you could contact me offline. regards and good luck Erik Hofmann >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Daniel Pittman >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2004 03:13 >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Betreff: Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator > > >On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an >existing message and change all the details - some hidden >features, like >the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message >shows up in the middle of another running subject... > >> So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet >> access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it >told me that >> the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. > >Well, that may well be the problem. You may need to use some special >extra settings in the PPPoE packets, or a fixed MAC address or >something >like that. > >Alternately, it could be an issue with your use of the router, rather >than a PPPoE issue directly. > >> I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem >> is? > >That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the >PPPoE layer internally? > >Most modern DSL modems do all the PPPoE work themselves, and expect you >to connect to a DHCP server on them before they activate the link. >Annoying, but workable. > >A quick search shows a bunch of Zyair 2000 wireless router devices, but >none that claim to feature ADSL support, so I can't comment directly. > > >How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to >derive the operating mode correctly. > > Daniel >-- >We fear that pop-culture is the only culture we're ever going to have. >We want to stop reading magazines, stop watching tv, stop caring about >Hollywood, but we're addicted to the things we hate. >-- KMFDM, _Dogma_ > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 16 Jun 2004 at 11:13, Daniel Pittman wrote: [...] >> That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the >> PPPoE layer internally? > > My Zyair B-2000 V2 (I wasn't very precise in my last email) does > handle PPPoE and has a DHCP server; I could access the Internet with > Knoppix for example without any further configurations...I have a > Toshiba Laptop and a D-Link DFE 660 Ethernet Cardbus. The built-in > firewall is enabled. Ah, right. pppoeconfig is for a setup like mine - I have an Alcatel SpeedTouch Home, and run the PPPoE software on my Debian firewall server. If your Zyair thing runs the PPPoE bit, you almost certainly want to configure the network card connected to the Zyair thing as "dhcp", and it should (in theory) just work. This stanza in /etc/network/inferfaces should be close to right: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Replace `eth0' with the right Ethernet interface for your setup. :) Regards, Daniel -- there's a party going on we'll all be here dancing underground there's a riot going on we'll all be here dancing underground -- Covenant, _Riot_
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004 at 11:13, Daniel Pittman wrote: > NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an > existing message and change all the details - some hidden features, like > the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message > shows up in the middle of another running subject... Thanks for the tip; apologies to the person whose message i hijacked! > That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the > PPPoE layer internally? My Zyair B-2000 V2 (I wasn't very precise in my last email) does handle PPPoE and has a DHCP server; I could access the Internet with Knoppix for example without any further configurations...I have a Toshiba Laptop and a D-Link DFE 660 Ethernet Cardbus. The built-in firewall is enabled. > How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to > derive the operating mode correctly. > >Daniel Here is what my Zyair B-2000 v2 tells me: IP Pool starting address: 192.168.1.33 (my IP) Lan TCP/IP :192.168.1.1 (Gateway and DHCP server) IP submask: 255.255.255.0 Multicast: none RIP direction: both RIP version: RIP-1 DNS Servers Assigned by DHCP Server: 217.237.151.33 194.25.2.129 Under Wan MAC Address I have "Factory default" selected, instead of " Spoof this computer's MAC Address - IP Address". Under the DHCP table from the router i also noticed the hostname is not the one i had given Debian. Could that be causing the problem? Han
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 16 Jun 2004 at 11:13, Daniel Pittman wrote: [...] >> That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the >> PPPoE layer internally? > > My Zyair B-2000 V2 (I wasn't very precise in my last email) does > handle PPPoE and has a DHCP server; I could access the Internet with > Knoppix for example without any further configurations...I have a > Toshiba Laptop and a D-Link DFE 660 Ethernet Cardbus. The built-in > firewall is enabled. Ah, right. pppoeconfig is for a setup like mine - I have an Alcatel SpeedTouch Home, and run the PPPoE software on my Debian firewall server. If your Zyair thing runs the PPPoE bit, you almost certainly want to configure the network card connected to the Zyair thing as "dhcp", and it should (in theory) just work. This stanza in /etc/network/inferfaces should be close to right: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Replace `eth0' with the right Ethernet interface for your setup. :) Regards, Daniel -- there's a party going on we'll all be here dancing underground there's a riot going on we'll all be here dancing underground -- Covenant, _Riot_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004 at 11:13, Daniel Pittman wrote: > NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an > existing message and change all the details - some hidden features, like > the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message > shows up in the middle of another running subject... Thanks for the tip; apologies to the person whose message i hijacked! > That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the > PPPoE layer internally? My Zyair B-2000 V2 (I wasn't very precise in my last email) does handle PPPoE and has a DHCP server; I could access the Internet with Knoppix for example without any further configurations...I have a Toshiba Laptop and a D-Link DFE 660 Ethernet Cardbus. The built-in firewall is enabled. > How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to > derive the operating mode correctly. > >Daniel Here is what my Zyair B-2000 v2 tells me: IP Pool starting address: 192.168.1.33 (my IP) Lan TCP/IP :192.168.1.1 (Gateway and DHCP server) IP submask: 255.255.255.0 Multicast: none RIP direction: both RIP version: RIP-1 DNS Servers Assigned by DHCP Server: 217.237.151.33 194.25.2.129 Under Wan MAC Address I have "Factory default" selected, instead of " Spoof this computer's MAC Address - IP Address". Under the DHCP table from the router i also noticed the hostname is not the one i had given Debian. Could that be causing the problem? Han -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an existing message and change all the details - some hidden features, like the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message shows up in the middle of another running subject... > So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet > access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it told me that > the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. Well, that may well be the problem. You may need to use some special extra settings in the PPPoE packets, or a fixed MAC address or something like that. Alternately, it could be an issue with your use of the router, rather than a PPPoE issue directly. > I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem > is? That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the PPPoE layer internally? Most modern DSL modems do all the PPPoE work themselves, and expect you to connect to a DHCP server on them before they activate the link. Annoying, but workable. A quick search shows a bunch of Zyair 2000 wireless router devices, but none that claim to feature ADSL support, so I can't comment directly. How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to derive the operating mode correctly. Daniel -- We fear that pop-culture is the only culture we're ever going to have. We want to stop reading magazines, stop watching tv, stop caring about Hollywood, but we're addicted to the things we hate. -- KMFDM, _Dogma_
Re: PPPoE / Access Concentrator
On 16 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NB: It is much nicer to create a new thread rather than reply to an existing message and change all the details - some hidden features, like the `References' header, don't get changed that way, so your message shows up in the middle of another running subject... > So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet > access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it told me that > the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. Well, that may well be the problem. You may need to use some special extra settings in the PPPoE packets, or a fixed MAC address or something like that. Alternately, it could be an issue with your use of the router, rather than a PPPoE issue directly. > I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem > is? That depends. Is this a "bridge mode" device, or does it handle the PPPoE layer internally? Most modern DSL modems do all the PPPoE work themselves, and expect you to connect to a DHCP server on them before they activate the link. Annoying, but workable. A quick search shows a bunch of Zyair 2000 wireless router devices, but none that claim to feature ADSL support, so I can't comment directly. How is this configured under Windows? From that we should be able to derive the operating mode correctly. Daniel -- We fear that pop-culture is the only culture we're ever going to have. We want to stop reading magazines, stop watching tv, stop caring about Hollywood, but we're addicted to the things we hate. -- KMFDM, _Dogma_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPPoE / Access Concentrator
So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it told me that the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem is? I guess I'll need to configure certain files, but which ones? and how? Thanks! han
PPPoE / Access Concentrator
So I finally got Woody up and running, but couldn't get Internet access. pppoeconfig could detect my Ethernet card, but it told me that the Access Concentrator of my provider did not respond. I have a Zyair 2000 DSL Modem/Router, could it be where the problem is? I guess I'll need to configure certain files, but which ones? and how? Thanks! han -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
