Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Am 04:47 2003-07-08 -0400 hat James geschrieben: > >OK, > >It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building >on a separate system >for now. These steps work until I enter in: > >'mak,e menuconfig' > >which give me this error: > >You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' > >Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, >ncurses or curses apt-get install ncurses5-dev Have Fun Michelle
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Am 04:47 2003-07-08 -0400 hat James geschrieben: > >OK, > >It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building >on a separate system >for now. These steps work until I enter in: > >'mak,e menuconfig' > >which give me this error: > >You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' > >Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, >ncurses or curses apt-get install ncurses5-dev Have Fun Michelle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: Thanks for the webcam URL! Does anybody have any suggestions as to which kernel sources to use for a workable kernel that supports all sorts of video, mpeg4, etc? I'm trying 2.4.18, but to no avail with Linux4video, xawtv, etc. What's the best version of the kernel to use to get video with different camera's? Ideas? James Depending on you hardware 2.4.18 is ok. It works for the link i gave you. Read documentation, faqs search web and so on. Your configuration is not correct if nothing works. Try a standard debian 2.4.18 kernel, apt-get it. Read documentation on you specific hardware since this is not a matter where generalization is in order. Also search the web for your specific problems. Dont focus on kernel versions too much, but use your time reading information about your hardware and how to configure kernel correct. Good luck. Kenneth Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: Thanks for the webcam URL! Does anybody have any suggestions as to which kernel sources to use for a workable kernel that supports all sorts of video, mpeg4, etc? I'm trying 2.4.18, but to no avail with Linux4video, xawtv, etc. What's the best version of the kernel to use to get video with different camera's? Ideas? James Depending on you hardware 2.4.18 is ok. It works for the link i gave you. Read documentation, faqs search web and so on. Your configuration is not correct if nothing works. Try a standard debian 2.4.18 kernel, apt-get it. Read documentation on you specific hardware since this is not a matter where generalization is in order. Also search the web for your specific problems. Dont focus on kernel versions too much, but use your time reading information about your hardware and how to configure kernel correct. Good luck. Kenneth Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Thanks for the webcam URL! Does anybody have any suggestions as to which kernel sources to use for a workable kernel that supports all sorts of video, mpeg4, etc? I'm trying 2.4.18, but to no avail with Linux4video, xawtv, etc. What's the best version of the kernel to use to get video with different camera's? Ideas? James Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Thanks for the webcam URL! Does anybody have any suggestions as to which kernel sources to use for a workable kernel that supports all sorts of video, mpeg4, etc? I'm trying 2.4.18, but to no avail with Linux4video, xawtv, etc. What's the best version of the kernel to use to get video with different camera's? Ideas? James Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote: James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Tuesday 08 July 2003 10:47, James wrote: > OK, > > It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building > on a separate system > for now. These steps work until I enter in: > > 'mak,e menuconfig' > > which give me this error: > > You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' I believe you need one of the dev libraries. Try this one libncurses5-dev although I'm not quite sure. -- --- | Jesús Roncero Franco| | Sevilla - Spain | | GPG-key available | ---
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James Read this for driver for logitech: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Kenneth OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
James wrote: apt-get install libncurses5-dbg did the trick. now the 'make menuconfig' works now so it's off to trying to find the modules to support (2) usb cameras: the web cam and the quickcam If anybody has deb packages or ides how to get these working, under kernel version 2.4.18, let me know James OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Tuesday 08 July 2003 10:47, James wrote: > OK, > > It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building > on a separate system > for now. These steps work until I enter in: > > 'mak,e menuconfig' > > which give me this error: > > You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' I believe you need one of the dev libraries. Try this one libncurses5-dev although I'm not quite sure. -- --- | Jesús Roncero Franco| | Sevilla - Spain | | GPG-key available | --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
OK, It took me a few days, but, I decided to experiment with kernel building on a separate system for now. These steps work until I enter in: 'mak,e menuconfig' which give me this error: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' Numerous attempts to find the *.deb package that has the libcurses, ncurses or curses stuff, have resulted in several additional packages containing *curses* but nothing corrects this error? Ideas? James Andrew Perrin wrote: You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: Hello, I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop. I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I prefer Alsa) CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of anything to work I install with floppies Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having the installed packages wig out? This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a permanent commitment to 2.4. Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 03:49:30 -0400 James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. If you have a laptop you're more likely than desktop-only users to benefit from a custom kernel: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html Read the whole thing first. http://linux-laptops.net is a link all laptop users should be familiar with. Among other things, you may find working kernel configurations for your machine. A config file for any kernel since about 2.4.15 should be a good start if it's for your machine. The debian-laptop list is good too. Kevin
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 03:49:30 -0400 James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. If you have a laptop you're more likely than desktop-only users to benefit from a custom kernel: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html Read the whole thing first. http://linux-laptops.net is a link all laptop users should be familiar with. Among other things, you may find working kernel configurations for your machine. A config file for any kernel since about 2.4.15 should be a good start if it's for your machine. The debian-laptop list is good too. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Hello folks again :-)
Am Montag, 30. Juni 2003 09:49 schrieb James:
> I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable.
> However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except
> my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop.
> I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz
I run woody (stable) with kernel 2.4.5 and XFree 4.2.1.
Higher versions may also work well.
With linux on a new laptop, it's a good idea to learn how to compile a custom
kernel that fits to your laptop.
If once you maintained the first steps, it's a great fun :-)
It's one of the most FAQ in linux, and there are many threads in list
archives.
You have to install a package like kernel-source-2.4.5.
There's a lot of docu within.
For compiling install 'kernel-package' and read the related doc (in
/usr/share/doc).
For possibly occuring difficulties with (e.g.) Sound, XFree, ACPI, and pcmcia
cards please feel free to ask on this (or any other) list.
Searching the list archives first is always a good idea.
As you will have a bunch of questions you may look into some of the following
sites (a small collection):
http://www.linux-laptop.net/
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/laptops.html
http://g.unsa.edu.ar/doc/sdb/en/html/keylist.NOTEBOOK.html
http://tuxmobil.org/
http://hardwaredb.suse.de/extendedSearch.php?LANG=en_UK&PHPSESSID=6b9648a364901b494a2e15f16d00b960
> I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is
> there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable?
Any release basically works on a range of kernel versions; however the most
safe choice are the ones shipped within. For woody 3.1. it's around 2.4.18 or
sth.
> Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having
> the installed packages wig out?
(I'm not sure what you mean here)
Booting a kernel doesn't affect the packages.
When the kernel has booted, it passes control to the init-process which
purpose is to start (and also shut down) most of the services that built up
your runlevel configuration.
Debian's default is to directly enter runlevel 2, defined in /etc/rc2.d.
Runlevel 1 is 'single', designed for recovering issues.
There's also an /etc/rcS.d for general booting tasks.
It's easy to define sperate runlevels started from a specific kernel.
3-5 are unused, you can use these for custom.
(Note that other distros differ in the scheme)
For example, me got a standard desktop (2) and an network-study runlevel (3),
each booting with it's own custom version of 2.4.5.
It works through a paramter passed to the init process, given as
kernel-parameter in lilo.config ('init=3').
See /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.5/Documentation/kernel-parameters
Also /usr/share/doc/debian-policy, chapter 10.3.
> This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a
> permanent commitment to 2.4.
You can install many different kernels and define many different 'booting
images' at once. No permanent commitment.
For testing different kernels / images with lilo you should prepare a
bootfloppy, and test it carefully.
It is easier and safer to use grub instead - but then again, you would need
to learn the how-to first
(but think of the money we've spared (and will do in future) with linux, some
of what we could give some hacker to configure the stuff - it's a fair deal
and helps against unemployment (and M$ also) ;-)
good luck
--
mi
btw.
Have a look at:
Re: inittab zerschossen
Datum: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:57:21 +0200
Von: Sebastian Henschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kopie: [email protected]
:-)
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:49:30AM -0400, James wrote:
> I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is
> there a (semi) stable release
> of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable?
You're mixing things up. Debian (the distribution) has a set
of release number: current 'stable' Debian is 3.0 ('woody').
Linux (the kernel) has a different, entirely independant,
naming scheme. There is no such thing as Debian 2.4.
If you do a
apt-cache search kernel-image
you'll find there is a collection of pre-compiled 2.4
kernels that are part of the 'stable' Debian. 2.4 kernels
are generally considered quite stable, and unless you're
after server-like, rock-solid stability, will be perfectly
fine for a laptop.
> I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz
So try
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686
> Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having
> the installed packages wig out?
> This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a
> permanent commitment to 2.4.
Yes, that's not an issue. IIRC apt-get will in fact tell
lilo you have two kernels, and lilo will let you choose
what kernel you want to use at boot-time (hold the shift key
when you boot). Have a look at /etc/lilo.conf and of course
man lilo.
> Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian?
Yes, more than a year ago :-)
> I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I
> have to I could do this and test all that is critical on
> 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages?
> Suggestions and pointers to a howto?
I would definitely suggest installing both kernels, trying
out 2.4, before even considering ditching your 2.2. As your
wording suggests you have another misconception: you do not
need to install *anything* else than the new kernel, to try
out the new kernel. This means, exactly the same packages
you are now using with the 2.2 kernel, will work just the
same with the 2.4.
(For the pedantically minded, this is not entirely true, but
you are garanteed to not have big problems anyway).
In fact, my laptop alternates between a 2.2 kernel and a
2.5.71 kernel, with exactly the same applications.
> Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto)
There are probably howtos on kernel compiling; you may want
to have a look at the documentation for lilo and make-kpkg
as well.
HTH,
Y.
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Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: > Hello, > > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. > > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? > > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz > > I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: > > /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I > prefer Alsa) > > CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of > anything to work > I install with floppies > > > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? > This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a > permanent commitment to 2.4. > > Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? > > I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I > could do this and test all that is critical > on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and > pointers to a howto? > > > Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) > > I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only > seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. > > Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! > > James > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
Hello folks again :-)
Am Montag, 30. Juni 2003 09:49 schrieb James:
> I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable.
> However, I like the Stable packages, as I have not had any issues, except
> my own lack of knowledge of Debian on a laptop.
> I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz
I run woody (stable) with kernel 2.4.5 and XFree 4.2.1.
Higher versions may also work well.
With linux on a new laptop, it's a good idea to learn how to compile a custom
kernel that fits to your laptop.
If once you maintained the first steps, it's a great fun :-)
It's one of the most FAQ in linux, and there are many threads in list
archives.
You have to install a package like kernel-source-2.4.5.
There's a lot of docu within.
For compiling install 'kernel-package' and read the related doc (in
/usr/share/doc).
For possibly occuring difficulties with (e.g.) Sound, XFree, ACPI, and pcmcia
cards please feel free to ask on this (or any other) list.
Searching the list archives first is always a good idea.
As you will have a bunch of questions you may look into some of the following
sites (a small collection):
http://www.linux-laptop.net/
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/laptops.html
http://g.unsa.edu.ar/doc/sdb/en/html/keylist.NOTEBOOK.html
http://tuxmobil.org/
http://hardwaredb.suse.de/extendedSearch.php?LANG=en_UK&PHPSESSID=6b9648a364901b494a2e15f16d00b960
> I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is
> there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable?
Any release basically works on a range of kernel versions; however the most
safe choice are the ones shipped within. For woody 3.1. it's around 2.4.18 or
sth.
> Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having
> the installed packages wig out?
(I'm not sure what you mean here)
Booting a kernel doesn't affect the packages.
When the kernel has booted, it passes control to the init-process which
purpose is to start (and also shut down) most of the services that built up
your runlevel configuration.
Debian's default is to directly enter runlevel 2, defined in /etc/rc2.d.
Runlevel 1 is 'single', designed for recovering issues.
There's also an /etc/rcS.d for general booting tasks.
It's easy to define sperate runlevels started from a specific kernel.
3-5 are unused, you can use these for custom.
(Note that other distros differ in the scheme)
For example, me got a standard desktop (2) and an network-study runlevel (3),
each booting with it's own custom version of 2.4.5.
It works through a paramter passed to the init process, given as
kernel-parameter in lilo.config ('init=3').
See /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.5/Documentation/kernel-parameters
Also /usr/share/doc/debian-policy, chapter 10.3.
> This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a
> permanent commitment to 2.4.
You can install many different kernels and define many different 'booting
images' at once. No permanent commitment.
For testing different kernels / images with lilo you should prepare a
bootfloppy, and test it carefully.
It is easier and safer to use grub instead - but then again, you would need
to learn the how-to first
(but think of the money we've spared (and will do in future) with linux, some
of what we could give some hacker to configure the stuff - it's a fair deal
and helps against unemployment (and M$ also) ;-)
good luck
--
mi
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Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:49:30AM -0400, James wrote:
> I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is
> there a (semi) stable release
> of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable?
You're mixing things up. Debian (the distribution) has a set
of release number: current 'stable' Debian is 3.0 ('woody').
Linux (the kernel) has a different, entirely independant,
naming scheme. There is no such thing as Debian 2.4.
If you do a
apt-cache search kernel-image
you'll find there is a collection of pre-compiled 2.4
kernels that are part of the 'stable' Debian. 2.4 kernels
are generally considered quite stable, and unless you're
after server-like, rock-solid stability, will be perfectly
fine for a laptop.
> I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz
So try
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686
> Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having
> the installed packages wig out?
> This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a
> permanent commitment to 2.4.
Yes, that's not an issue. IIRC apt-get will in fact tell
lilo you have two kernels, and lilo will let you choose
what kernel you want to use at boot-time (hold the shift key
when you boot). Have a look at /etc/lilo.conf and of course
man lilo.
> Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian?
Yes, more than a year ago :-)
> I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I
> have to I could do this and test all that is critical on
> 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages?
> Suggestions and pointers to a howto?
I would definitely suggest installing both kernels, trying
out 2.4, before even considering ditching your 2.2. As your
wording suggests you have another misconception: you do not
need to install *anything* else than the new kernel, to try
out the new kernel. This means, exactly the same packages
you are now using with the 2.2 kernel, will work just the
same with the 2.4.
(For the pedantically minded, this is not entirely true, but
you are garanteed to not have big problems anyway).
In fact, my laptop alternates between a 2.2 kernel and a
2.5.71 kernel, with exactly the same applications.
> Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto)
There are probably howtos on kernel compiling; you may want
to have a look at the documentation for lilo and make-kpkg
as well.
HTH,
Y.
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Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
You're confusing debian versions with kernel versions. Debian woody (3.0) can run on top of a 2.4.x kernel - I do it with 2.4.20, which I had to download by hand from packages.debian.org, but if you're OK with 2.4.18, you can get it with apt-get: cd /usr/src apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 bunzip2 kernel-source*bz tar xf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar cd kernel-source-2.4.18 make menuconfig ... make-kpkg kernel_image cd .. dpkg -i ./kernel-image-. should do it. ap -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James wrote: > Hello, > > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. > > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? > > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz > > I have not tried to fix these 2.2 problems: > > /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I > prefer Alsa) > > CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of > anything to work > I install with floppies > > > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? > This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a > permanent commitment to 2.4. > > Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? > > I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I > could do this and test all that is critical > on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 kernel and packages? Suggestions and > pointers to a howto? > > > Actually, this is hopefully answered somewhere(in a howto) > > I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only > seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. > > Ideas and suggestions are most welcome! > > James > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Monday 30 June 2003 09:49, James wrote: > Hello, > > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. Stable is good. :) The latest version of Debian stable is version 3.0r1. Be carefull not to confuse the version of the Debian distribution with the version of the kernel. They are entirely seperate things. Searching for kernel-image packages on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Reveals that stable in fact contain both 2.2.20, 2.4.16 and 2.4.18 images so there are a few to choose from. For your Pentium4 this version might be a good choice: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686.html If you want alsa you have to download the source, patch it since alsa is not build into 2.4 kernels and then compile a new image with make-kpkg kernel-image Other than that I can see no issues with running kernel 2.4. In fact I would recommend it. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.2 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Jun/30, James wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I compile my own kernels, so I'm not sure if the Debian-packaged ones work as they should. I just can tell you that I'm running 2.4.20, with some not specially common options (LVM), and it works flawlessly. > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz Well, I only have a Compaq Armada 3500, which is somewhat old now (I think it's from 1999; bought it second hand). Newer laptops may have more unsupported devices. > /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I > prefer Alsa) What soundcard is it? > CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of > anything to work This surprises me. Do you mean that the CD is not detected? I don't know what could have gone wrong here, because CD should be detected as any IDE one :-m > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? Sure. Just use Lilo or Grub to have a boot menu and choose the kernel that you want. > I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could > do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 > kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? I'd advice to just install the new 2.4 kernel. You can have two kernels at the same time in the computer, though (obviously) not running the two at the same time :-) Install the latest 2.4, configure your boot manager to let you choose what to boot, and check what's wrong with 2.4. Any problems that you have, you can tell them here. -- Roberto Suarez Soto Alfa21 Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.alfa21.com
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
[20030630] James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? Even woody has 2.4.18. On your boot cd type bf24 [enter]... > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz You defenitely need 2.4 to get 100% from that monster :) > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? As many as you want. Just add the right entries in your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo. > This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a > permanent commitment to 2.4. For a debian pre-compiled kernel : $ apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4 $ apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.'LATEST VERSION'-686 The other option is to compile your own kernel, even with acpi support (w/ patches), since your laptop must be an acpi one : $ apt-get install kernel-source-2.4'LATEST VERSION' (for non-ACPI) or fetch 2.4.21 from www.kernel.org & the appropriate patch from acpi.sourceforge.net. In both cases read the 'kernel compile how-to' in LDP. Also $ apt-get install kernel-package libncurses-dev $ man make-kpkg to compile it the "debian way" :) -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgprURyMbyleb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On 2003-06-30, 07:49 GMT, James wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? Just a reminder: 2.4 is number of Linux kernel, Debian/stable is 3.0 -- do not make mistake between these numberings. Debian/stable includes kernel 2.4.18 (there are security patches for that). However, there is no problem to compile 2.4.21 (which is the latest stable version of Linux kernel from www.kernel.org) -- there is package for unstable, which can be happily compiled on woody without any problems. Concerning the stability -- I am not an expert, but I believe that 2.4.* kernel is quite mature these days, so you can try it without problems. Check you particular computer at some Linux Laptop site (try google.com to find one), whether there are any problems, but if it is not really strange beast it should be OK. > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? Yes -- you should however probably make /etc/lilo.conf configuration by hand (see manpage for that). > Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? 2.4.* is part of the Debian at least a year (if not more). > I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only > seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. No experience with these. Matej -- Matej Cepl, GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Monday 30 June 2003 09:49, James wrote: > Hello, > > I need many of the new features in a 2.4 based kernel on my portable. > However, I like the Stable > packages, as I have not had any issues, except my own lack of knowledge > of Debian on a laptop. Stable is good. :) The latest version of Debian stable is version 3.0r1. Be carefull not to confuse the version of the Debian distribution with the version of the kernel. They are entirely seperate things. Searching for kernel-image packages on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Reveals that stable in fact contain both 2.2.20, 2.4.16 and 2.4.18 images so there are a few to choose from. For your Pentium4 this version might be a good choice: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686.html If you want alsa you have to download the source, patch it since alsa is not build into 2.4 kernels and then compile a new image with make-kpkg kernel-image Other than that I can see no issues with running kernel 2.4. In fact I would recommend it. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.2 on Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On Jun/30, James wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? I compile my own kernels, so I'm not sure if the Debian-packaged ones work as they should. I just can tell you that I'm running 2.4.20, with some not specially common options (LVM), and it works flawlessly. > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz Well, I only have a Compaq Armada 3500, which is somewhat old now (I think it's from 1999; bought it second hand). Newer laptops may have more unsupported devices. > /dev/dspdevice not found and not working i.e. no sound. (I > prefer Alsa) What soundcard is it? > CD/DVD anything as the native deb install does not allow much of > anything to work This surprises me. Do you mean that the CD is not detected? I don't know what could have gone wrong here, because CD should be detected as any IDE one :-m > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? Sure. Just use Lilo or Grub to have a boot menu and choose the kernel that you want. > I really do not want to install everthing twice, but, if I have to I could > do this and test all that is critical on 2.4, before deleteing the 2.2 > kernel and packages? Suggestions and pointers to a howto? I'd advice to just install the new 2.4 kernel. You can have two kernels at the same time in the computer, though (obviously) not running the two at the same time :-) Install the latest 2.4, configure your boot manager to let you choose what to boot, and check what's wrong with 2.4. Any problems that you have, you can tell them here. -- Roberto Suarez Soto Alfa21 Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.alfa21.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
[20030630] James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? Even woody has 2.4.18. On your boot cd type bf24 [enter]... > I have a Prostar P-IV running at 2GHz You defenitely need 2.4 to get 100% from that monster :) > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? As many as you want. Just add the right entries in your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo. > This way I can test everything on the same portable BEFORE making a > permanent commitment to 2.4. For a debian pre-compiled kernel : $ apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4 $ apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.'LATEST VERSION'-686 The other option is to compile your own kernel, even with acpi support (w/ patches), since your laptop must be an acpi one : $ apt-get install kernel-source-2.4'LATEST VERSION' (for non-ACPI) or fetch 2.4.21 from www.kernel.org & the appropriate patch from acpi.sourceforge.net. In both cases read the 'kernel compile how-to' in LDP. Also $ apt-get install kernel-package libncurses-dev $ man make-kpkg to compile it the "debian way" :) -- Manolis Tzanidakis (mtzanidakis-at-freemail-dot-gr) Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 102798230 GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 5CA5 41D6 09F1 C4B9 C331 65EF 4B3F 6979 EB8C 88F3 Get my public key at: pgp.mit.edu pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.4 Kernel Stability
On 2003-06-30, 07:49 GMT, James wrote: > I read that may people are running 2.4.x kernels on their portables. Is > there a (semi) stable release > of Debian 2.4, that I can run on a portable? Just a reminder: 2.4 is number of Linux kernel, Debian/stable is 3.0 -- do not make mistake between these numberings. Debian/stable includes kernel 2.4.18 (there are security patches for that). However, there is no problem to compile 2.4.21 (which is the latest stable version of Linux kernel from www.kernel.org) -- there is package for unstable, which can be happily compiled on woody without any problems. Concerning the stability -- I am not an expert, but I believe that 2.4.* kernel is quite mature these days, so you can try it without problems. Check you particular computer at some Linux Laptop site (try google.com to find one), whether there are any problems, but if it is not really strange beast it should be OK. > Could a portable boot 2 kernels (2.2.a and 2.4) from lilo without having > the installed packages wig out? Yes -- you should however probably make /etc/lilo.conf configuration by hand (see manpage for that). > Is 2.4.x near a formal release for Debian? 2.4.* is part of the Debian at least a year (if not more). > I also want to add xawtv and many other MPEG4 packages, but, they only > seem to run on a 2.4 kernel. No experience with these. Matej -- Matej Cepl, GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
