Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
Paulo Lopes wrote: Hi, I've a Clevo 2700C and installed woody on it, and all stable packages from security.debian.org and new kernel and XFree from http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/. I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't switch to text mode. This problem probably isn't related with this kernel, i've tryed 2.4.18 with the same configuration and it hangs. The stupid thing is that, when i'm on AC power, it never crashes This is very stupid, why do i need a laptop if i can only use it when i'm on AC power :-) I think it worked fine with older kde versions such as 3.0.3, not shure with 3.0.4. Currently i have 3.0.5a. Can this be a bug in my BIOS? i'm using the 1.13 version. Thanks for your time Hi thanks for those who replyed to me, i've fixed my bug :-) I've reinstalled my Debian from my cd set of woody 3.0r0 and recompiled the kernel. What i've changed from the last kernel that stop this stupid bug: PCI Access Mode was BIOS and now is DIRECT APIC was Enabled now is Disabled it never crashed again :-) probably it was a bios bug... who knows? my laptop is a Clevo 2700C, BIOS 1.13
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
Paulo Lopes wrote: Hi, I've a Clevo 2700C and installed woody on it, and all stable packages from security.debian.org and new kernel and XFree from http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/. I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't switch to text mode. This problem probably isn't related with this kernel, i've tryed 2.4.18 with the same configuration and it hangs. The stupid thing is that, when i'm on AC power, it never crashes This is very stupid, why do i need a laptop if i can only use it when i'm on AC power :-) I think it worked fine with older kde versions such as 3.0.3, not shure with 3.0.4. Currently i have 3.0.5a. Can this be a bug in my BIOS? i'm using the 1.13 version. Thanks for your time Hi thanks for those who replyed to me, i've fixed my bug :-) I've reinstalled my Debian from my cd set of woody 3.0r0 and recompiled the kernel. What i've changed from the last kernel that stop this stupid bug: PCI Access Mode was BIOS and now is DIRECT APIC was Enabled now is Disabled it never crashed again :-) probably it was a bios bug... who knows? my laptop is a Clevo 2700C, BIOS 1.13 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
Hello Paulo, Marvin Renich wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:11:43AM +, Paulo Lopes wrote: I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't switch to text mode. I press suspend button and again on and then run all fine :-) When you find another solution for this problem please tell me this too :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Yevgen Reznichenko.
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:11:43AM +, Paulo Lopes wrote: > > I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: > > When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings > the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't > switch to text mode. > My Dell Inspiron 8000 has a buggy APIC, and I have heard that many other laptops do, too. When I had APIC enabled, some of power management worked fine, but unplugging or plugging in the power adapter caused a hang. When I recompiled without APIC support, everything worked fine. This may or may not solve your problem, but it is worth trying. Note that this is APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller), not ACPI (unfortunate choice of acronyms). I think there is a kernel boot param "noapic" that you can try without having to recompile the kernel. I learned this previously from watching this mailing list. Thanks go to the many people who have shared their knowledge and experience with the rest of us. ...Marvin
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
Hello Paulo, Marvin Renich wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:11:43AM +, Paulo Lopes wrote: I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't switch to text mode. I press suspend button and again on and then run all fine :-) When you find another solution for this problem please tell me this too :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Yevgen Reznichenko. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:11:43AM +, Paulo Lopes wrote: > > I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: > > When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings > the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't > switch to text mode. > My Dell Inspiron 8000 has a buggy APIC, and I have heard that many other laptops do, too. When I had APIC enabled, some of power management worked fine, but unplugging or plugging in the power adapter caused a hang. When I recompiled without APIC support, everything worked fine. This may or may not solve your problem, but it is worth trying. Note that this is APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller), not ACPI (unfortunate choice of acronyms). I think there is a kernel boot param "noapic" that you can try without having to recompile the kernel. I learned this previously from watching this mailing list. Thanks go to the many people who have shared their knowledge and experience with the rest of us. ...Marvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
On Friday 10 January 2003 12:11, Paulo Lopes wrote: > Hi, > > I've a Clevo 2700C and installed woody on it, and all stable packages > from security.debian.org and new kernel and XFree from > http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/. > > I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: > > When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings > the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't > switch to text mode. I don't exactly know what you mean with this, I know that with my laptop (HP Omnibook 6000) there are a lot of problems with the 'standby' mode. If I press the standby button and unplug my computer and then start it again, it hangs. What I have learned is that it has to do with a lot of unclear stuff in apm. So the apm deamon is taking care of this. You could try to google for your laptop and apm, just to see if others have come up with some kind of solution. In the meantime I would turn off the power options in KDE. Maybe others will come with better solutions. Cheers, Jord
Re: APM or KDE stupid bug, i guess...
On Friday 10 January 2003 12:11, Paulo Lopes wrote: > Hi, > > I've a Clevo 2700C and installed woody on it, and all stable packages > from security.debian.org and new kernel and XFree from > http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/. > > I've compiled the kernel 2.4.20 and the bug is this: > > When i'm on batery power, everytime the KDE starts the PowerSavings > the laptop just hangs, the image freezes, and even if i try i can't > switch to text mode. I don't exactly know what you mean with this, I know that with my laptop (HP Omnibook 6000) there are a lot of problems with the 'standby' mode. If I press the standby button and unplug my computer and then start it again, it hangs. What I have learned is that it has to do with a lot of unclear stuff in apm. So the apm deamon is taking care of this. You could try to google for your laptop and apm, just to see if others have come up with some kind of solution. In the meantime I would turn off the power options in KDE. Maybe others will come with better solutions. Cheers, Jord -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
