Finally working (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> The pcmcia-modules thing isn't a problem any more. I got the card
> working. And I got the connection working! After running 
> /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart, I unplugged the connection cable from the
> card and then I plugged it back in and ran "dhcpcd eth0". That
> made the connection work. I was able to do an apt-get update
> and an apt-get dist-upgrade (a couple times since some packages
> were held back) for Debian unstable. 

Just wanted to let you guys know that I finally have everything working
perfectly without needing to run anything manually. I boot into Debian
and now have a perfectly running connection. What finally fixed it was
upgrading pcmcia-modules... to pcmcia-modules-2.2.19-idepci and all
the related pcmcia and kernel packages. This all came from unstable.
Unstable my...   : )   Thanks again for all your help. I'll definitly try to
write an install guide for my entire Inspiron 8000 system, including this
Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 network card, when I get everything
else setup.

- Bart

Finally working (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> The pcmcia-modules thing isn't a problem any more. I got the card
> working. And I got the connection working! After running 
> /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart, I unplugged the connection cable from the
> card and then I plugged it back in and ran "dhcpcd eth0". That
> made the connection work. I was able to do an apt-get update
> and an apt-get dist-upgrade (a couple times since some packages
> were held back) for Debian unstable. 

Just wanted to let you guys know that I finally have everything working
perfectly without needing to run anything manually. I boot into Debian
and now have a perfectly running connection. What finally fixed it was
upgrading pcmcia-modules... to pcmcia-modules-2.2.19-idepci and all
the related pcmcia and kernel packages. This all came from unstable.
Unstable my...   : )   Thanks again for all your help. I'll definitly try to
write an install guide for my entire Inspiron 8000 system, including this
Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 network card, when I get everything
else setup.

- Bart


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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
> stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
> recognizing my network card. 

The pcmcia-modules thing isn't a problem any more. I got the card
working. And I got the connection working! After running 
/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart, I unplugged the connection cable from the
card and then I plugged it back in and ran "dhcpcd eth0". That
made the connection work. I was able to do an apt-get update
and an apt-get dist-upgrade (a couple times since some packages
were held back) for Debian unstable. Hopefully everything will be
working when I boot back. The next thing will probably be to try
to figure out the software equivalent of disconnecting that cable so
that I can have Debian do it automatically. Or perhaps the disconnecting
was only needed once.

- Bart

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Heather]

> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.
> 
> - Bart

Well, if it's a software annoyance and not that it seated poorly, then you
should be able to use 'cardctl eject' and 'cardctl insert'  (I do this all
the time, my stuff can't tell whether I felt like having the card on, and
I don't feel like bleeding juice for it when I don't need its services.)

If it *is* that it seats improperly, then get it seated properly once, and
then prefer to use cardctl to pop and unpop it unless you really need the
slot for something else.

* Heather Stern * star@ many places...

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Jose Manuel Gomez]

On Wednesday 22 August 2001 17:58, Bart Szyszka wrote:

> I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
> stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
> recognizing my network card. Now if I try to get that package, it
> won't let me because the matching kernel-image hasn't been installed.
> Problem is that that kernel-image is no longer available:
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.19pre17.html
>
> Any ideas? It looks like my kernel is 2.2.19pre17 so I don't know what
> it's complaining about. Maybe it does literally need the kernel-image of it
> to have been installed.
>
> - Bart

Hi Bart,

I just compiled the sources of pcmcia-cs and it worked fine with my previous 
2.2.17 and my current 2.4.6. It's an alternative solution ;)

Bye

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Juergen Stuber]

"Bart Szyszka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.

You can do

% /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart

as root instead, that has the same effect.

As for the going away after a few seconds, I had the same problem
when I was setting up my net some two years ago. 
IIRC the dhcp client tested the link by sending a ping,
and as that didn't work it went down again.
I don't remeber how I fixed it, though.

Jürgen

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
> stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
> recognizing my network card. 

The pcmcia-modules thing isn't a problem any more. I got the card
working. And I got the connection working! After running 
/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart, I unplugged the connection cable from the
card and then I plugged it back in and ran "dhcpcd eth0". That
made the connection work. I was able to do an apt-get update
and an apt-get dist-upgrade (a couple times since some packages
were held back) for Debian unstable. Hopefully everything will be
working when I boot back. The next thing will probably be to try
to figure out the software equivalent of disconnecting that cable so
that I can have Debian do it automatically. Or perhaps the disconnecting
was only needed once.

- Bart


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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Heather]

> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.
> 
> - Bart

Well, if it's a software annoyance and not that it seated poorly, then you
should be able to use 'cardctl eject' and 'cardctl insert'  (I do this all
the time, my stuff can't tell whether I felt like having the card on, and
I don't feel like bleeding juice for it when I don't need its services.)

If it *is* that it seats improperly, then get it seated properly once, and
then prefer to use cardctl to pop and unpop it unless you really need the
slot for something else.

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> Hope not.  I just want to know if it works when you unplug it
> and plug it back in.  If it does, maybe that'll give you another place
> to look for the root of the problem.

I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
recognizing my network card. Now if I try to get that package, it
won't let me because the matching kernel-image hasn't been installed.
Problem is that that kernel-image is no longer available:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.19pre17.html

Any ideas? It looks like my kernel is 2.2.19pre17 so I don't know what
it's complaining about. Maybe it does literally need the kernel-image of it
to have been installed.

- Bart

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Jose Manuel Gomez]

On Wednesday 22 August 2001 17:58, Bart Szyszka wrote:

> I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
> stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
> recognizing my network card. Now if I try to get that package, it
> won't let me because the matching kernel-image hasn't been installed.
> Problem is that that kernel-image is no longer available:
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.19pre17.html
>
> Any ideas? It looks like my kernel is 2.2.19pre17 so I don't know what
> it's complaining about. Maybe it does literally need the kernel-image of it
> to have been installed.
>
> - Bart

Hi Bart,

I just compiled the sources of pcmcia-cs and it worked fine with my previous 
2.2.17 and my current 2.4.6. It's an alternative solution ;)

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Clayton Carter]

Hope not.  I just want to know if it works when you unplug it
and plug it back in.  If it does, maybe that'll give you another place
to look for the root of the problem.

--c

On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:28:23AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)

Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.

- Bart

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Clayton Carter]

The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)

--c

On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:55:41AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
> > shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
> > ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
> > probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
> > completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
> > right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
> > using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.
> 
> I just wanted to get you guys know that I've been able to confirm this 
> connection
> dropping. I booted into Debian. ifconfig gave me eth0 and lo, but no IP. I ran
> dhcpcd eth0 and then apt-get update started connecting. I managed to do that
> and do a dist-upgrade to get the latest version of stable. Then I tried 
> editing
> /etc/apt/sources.list to change it to unstable and by the time I did that, 
> the next apt-get update couldn't connect. ifconfig showed that eth0 was gone. 
> I
> did get a beef (it was a different kind of beep) after the dist-upgrade and 
> before
> the next apt-get update. That must have signaled that the connection was 
> dropped.
> Any ideas? Again, in WindowsMillenium, this connection runs fine.
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Juergen Stuber]

"Bart Szyszka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.

You can do

% /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart

as root instead, that has the same effect.

As for the going away after a few seconds, I had the same problem
when I was setting up my net some two years ago. 
IIRC the dhcp client tested the link by sending a ping,
and as that didn't work it went down again.
I don't remeber how I fixed it, though.

Jürgen

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
> shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
> ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
> probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
> completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
> right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
> using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.

I just wanted to get you guys know that I've been able to confirm this 
connection
dropping. I booted into Debian. ifconfig gave me eth0 and lo, but no IP. I ran
dhcpcd eth0 and then apt-get update started connecting. I managed to do that
and do a dist-upgrade to get the latest version of stable. Then I tried editing
/etc/apt/sources.list to change it to unstable and by the time I did that, 
the next apt-get update couldn't connect. ifconfig showed that eth0 was gone. I
did get a beef (it was a different kind of beep) after the dist-upgrade and 
before
the next apt-get update. That must have signaled that the connection was 
dropped.
Any ideas? Again, in WindowsMillenium, this connection runs fine.

- Bart

Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

Again, thank you everyone for your help so far with my problem. Here's what
I'm up to with this Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 on a Dell Inspiron 8000:
Last night I tried resetting the modem and after fiddling with ifconfig, dhcpcd,
and pcmcia-cs, I got this thing working! But only for a few seconds. I got
dhcpcd to get me an IP for ifconfig by running "dhcpcd eth0" and apt-get update
started updating, but froze after a few seconds. Next time I ran ifconfig, eth0 
was completely gone.

Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.

Now if you guys think promiscious mode might help, is there a way to do it
for dhcpcd? If so, how?

- Bart

Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> Hope not.  I just want to know if it works when you unplug it
> and plug it back in.  If it does, maybe that'll give you another place
> to look for the root of the problem.

I've run into a snag. Because of the dist-upgrade I did for the latest
stable version, it got rid of pcmcia-modules... and it's no longer
recognizing my network card. Now if I try to get that package, it
won't let me because the matching kernel-image hasn't been installed.
Problem is that that kernel-image is no longer available:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-modules-2.2.19pre17.html

Any ideas? It looks like my kernel is 2.2.19pre17 so I don't know what
it's complaining about. Maybe it does literally need the kernel-image of it
to have been installed.

- Bart


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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Clayton Carter]

Hope not.  I just want to know if it works when you unplug it
and plug it back in.  If it does, maybe that'll give you another place
to look for the root of the problem.

--c

On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:28:23AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> > shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> > I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> > when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)
> 
> Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
> cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
> shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
> I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
> when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)

Will I have to do this all the time? From what I understand, these
cards are very fragile so I'd rather not be unplugging it all the time.

- Bart



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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Clayton Carter]

The second beep might be your card, or the cardmgr daemon,
shutting down.  Try unplugging the card and plugging it back it.  When
I do that, I hear a beep on the unplug, a beep on the plug and a beep
when it's all up.  How's that for tech support!  ;)

--c

On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:55:41AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
> > shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
> > ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
> > probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
> > completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
> > right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
> > using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.
> 
> I just wanted to get you guys know that I've been able to confirm this connection
> dropping. I booted into Debian. ifconfig gave me eth0 and lo, but no IP. I ran
> dhcpcd eth0 and then apt-get update started connecting. I managed to do that
> and do a dist-upgrade to get the latest version of stable. Then I tried editing
> /etc/apt/sources.list to change it to unstable and by the time I did that, 
> the next apt-get update couldn't connect. ifconfig showed that eth0 was gone. I
> did get a beef (it was a different kind of beep) after the dist-upgrade and before
> the next apt-get update. That must have signaled that the connection was dropped.
> Any ideas? Again, in WindowsMillenium, this connection runs fine.
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

> Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
> shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
> ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
> probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
> completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
> right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
> using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.

I just wanted to get you guys know that I've been able to confirm this connection
dropping. I booted into Debian. ifconfig gave me eth0 and lo, but no IP. I ran
dhcpcd eth0 and then apt-get update started connecting. I managed to do that
and do a dist-upgrade to get the latest version of stable. Then I tried editing
/etc/apt/sources.list to change it to unstable and by the time I did that, 
the next apt-get update couldn't connect. ifconfig showed that eth0 was gone. I
did get a beef (it was a different kind of beep) after the dist-upgrade and before
the next apt-get update. That must have signaled that the connection was dropped.
Any ideas? Again, in WindowsMillenium, this connection runs fine.

- Bart


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Some progress (Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia)

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

Again, thank you everyone for your help so far with my problem. Here's what
I'm up to with this Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 on a Dell Inspiron 8000:
Last night I tried resetting the modem and after fiddling with ifconfig, dhcpcd,
and pcmcia-cs, I got this thing working! But only for a few seconds. I got
dhcpcd to get me an IP for ifconfig by running "dhcpcd eth0" and apt-get update
started updating, but froze after a few seconds. Next time I ran ifconfig, eth0 
was completely gone.

Here's what happens when I boot in right now. When I boot in, ifconfig
shows eth0 and lo, but no IP address in eth0. After running "dhcpcd eth0"
ifconfig shows an IP!!! But when I run apt-get update, the thing fails (I
probably waited too long) and when I ran ifconfig again, eth0 was gone
completely. Running dhcpcd again didn't help. eth0 was still gone. The trick
right now seems to be to keep eth0 with an IP address. I need/want to be
using dhcpcd. That's what has always ran for this RoadRunner connection.

Now if you guys think promiscious mode might help, is there a way to do it
for dhcpcd? If so, how?

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Sebastien 'TiT0' Cazajous]

[ Bart Szyszka wrote : ]
>   Hi,
>
>   I just got a Dell Inspiron 8000 and am getting stuck trying to get
> the thing to work. I have WindowsMe setup on a seperate partition,
> but after trying to install Debian once I can't get to WinMe because
> the Debian setup option to boot from harddrive didn't let me specify
> what partitions should be available during boot (or which should be
> active for that matter). Now I have a Debian system that loads
> automatically and stops during boot because of pcmcia. And I can't
> get to WinMe because of LILO. I've tried reinstalling, but whenever I
> get to the option to 'Configure PCMCIA' so I could make sure it's not
> installed, the Debian setup freezes. Any ideas on how I could go
> about setting up Debian and avoid PCMCIA completely. At the rescue
> disk boot= prompt, is there anything I could do like pcmcia=noway ?
> People have suggested that before rebooting a freshly installed
> system, I should try to either remove pcmcia or go to /etc/ and edit
> a file that starts with an 'r' (rc2.d?) to get rid of some line that
> deals with pcmcia. Problem is that there's no dpkg at this point in
> the install for me to be able to just remove pcmcia and there's no
> file or directly that starts with an 'r' in /etc/ either. I'd
> appreciate some help. Thanks!

I had the same problem the all solution is to not check a memory 
segment defined into the /etc/pcmcia/config.opts


---8<---
#
# Local PCMCIA Configuration File
#
#--

# System resources available for PCMCIA devices

include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0xc00-0xcff
include memory 0xc-0xf
include memory 0xa000-0xa0ff, memory 0x6000-0x60ff
[...]

---8<---


And the daemon start fine 

A+
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

Lee Bradshaw, 2001-Aug-21 17:23 -0400:
> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
> 

   In the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file, change PUMP=yes to
   DHCP=yes, e.g.
   
   case "$ADDRESS" in
   *,*,*,*)
# Transceiver selection, for some cards -- see 'man ifport'
IF_PORT="auto"
# Use /sbin/pump for BOOTP/DHCP? [y/n]
DHCP="y"
;;

   This will call the dhclient instead of pump.  This works in
   the /etc/network/interfaces too.
   
   jc
   
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Sebastien 'TiT0' Cazajous]

[ Bart Szyszka wrote : ]
>   Hi,
>
>   I just got a Dell Inspiron 8000 and am getting stuck trying to get
> the thing to work. I have WindowsMe setup on a seperate partition,
> but after trying to install Debian once I can't get to WinMe because
> the Debian setup option to boot from harddrive didn't let me specify
> what partitions should be available during boot (or which should be
> active for that matter). Now I have a Debian system that loads
> automatically and stops during boot because of pcmcia. And I can't
> get to WinMe because of LILO. I've tried reinstalling, but whenever I
> get to the option to 'Configure PCMCIA' so I could make sure it's not
> installed, the Debian setup freezes. Any ideas on how I could go
> about setting up Debian and avoid PCMCIA completely. At the rescue
> disk boot= prompt, is there anything I could do like pcmcia=noway ?
> People have suggested that before rebooting a freshly installed
> system, I should try to either remove pcmcia or go to /etc/ and edit
> a file that starts with an 'r' (rc2.d?) to get rid of some line that
> deals with pcmcia. Problem is that there's no dpkg at this point in
> the install for me to be able to just remove pcmcia and there's no
> file or directly that starts with an 'r' in /etc/ either. I'd
> appreciate some help. Thanks!

I had the same problem the all solution is to not check a memory 
segment defined into the /etc/pcmcia/config.opts


---8<---
#
# Local PCMCIA Configuration File
#
#--

# System resources available for PCMCIA devices

include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0xc00-0xcff
include memory 0xc-0xf
include memory 0xa000-0xa0ff, memory 0x6000-0x60ff
[...]

---8<---


And the daemon start fine 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

Hi Bart,

I've had some pcmcia releases where my xircom card worked fine, but
most haven't. Different versions of the card are slightly different and
the last I heard the problems hadn't been solved for all the cards yet.
Maybe that's old news and everything is working fine now, but I don't
know.

Since the card is one known to have problems in the past, I'd test it
separately from the road runner network if possible. Figure out how to
kill whatever dhcp client pcmcia starts when the card is inserted and
then use ifconfig to configure the card by hand. Use a crossover cable
to connect to another computer. If the card works ok, then you just need
to figure out how to get dhcp working with roadrunner - maybe it needs
a special hostname or client-identifier to be sent to make the machine
look like a windows machine? If you have a local LUG mailing list,
someone on it could proably tell you if there are any special
requirements if road runner can't. Try putting the card into
promiscuous mode if it doesn't work without it.

If the card doesn't work, then you need to make sure you're doing the
right thing with ifconfig. You'll need a third computer (or at least a
third NIC) to verify that you are setting up the network properly. If
you can get the network working with these systems but not your xircom
card then the problem is probably with the xircom card or software.

I'd start by pinging systems based on ip address. Then you don't have
to get DNS involved in your debug process - well not unless the system
does reverse lookups before responding to pings, but that's unlikely.

I saw some other messages asking about /etc/resolv.conf. I think
dhclient will move the file and write new info there when it
successfully gets an address. Most servers will provide at least the
nameserver you should use in the dhcp config info they send out.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 06:08:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
>> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
>> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
>> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
> 
> This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
> (which
> has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
> also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
> in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
> ?
> I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
> /etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
> running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
> Is
> there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
> Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
> this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
> to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
> connection
> there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
> everything
> on this new laptop for Linux before I left.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

Lee Bradshaw, 2001-Aug-21 17:23 -0400:
> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
> 

   In the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file, change PUMP=yes to
   DHCP=yes, e.g.
   
   case "$ADDRESS" in
   *,*,*,*)
# Transceiver selection, for some cards -- see 'man ifport'
IF_PORT="auto"
# Use /sbin/pump for BOOTP/DHCP? [y/n]
DHCP="y"
;;

   This will call the dhclient instead of pump.  This works in
   the /etc/network/interfaces too.
   
   jc
   
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

Hi Bart,

I've had some pcmcia releases where my xircom card worked fine, but
most haven't. Different versions of the card are slightly different and
the last I heard the problems hadn't been solved for all the cards yet.
Maybe that's old news and everything is working fine now, but I don't
know.

Since the card is one known to have problems in the past, I'd test it
separately from the road runner network if possible. Figure out how to
kill whatever dhcp client pcmcia starts when the card is inserted and
then use ifconfig to configure the card by hand. Use a crossover cable
to connect to another computer. If the card works ok, then you just need
to figure out how to get dhcp working with roadrunner - maybe it needs
a special hostname or client-identifier to be sent to make the machine
look like a windows machine? If you have a local LUG mailing list,
someone on it could proably tell you if there are any special
requirements if road runner can't. Try putting the card into
promiscuous mode if it doesn't work without it.

If the card doesn't work, then you need to make sure you're doing the
right thing with ifconfig. You'll need a third computer (or at least a
third NIC) to verify that you are setting up the network properly. If
you can get the network working with these systems but not your xircom
card then the problem is probably with the xircom card or software.

I'd start by pinging systems based on ip address. Then you don't have
to get DNS involved in your debug process - well not unless the system
does reverse lookups before responding to pings, but that's unlikely.

I saw some other messages asking about /etc/resolv.conf. I think
dhclient will move the file and write new info there when it
successfully gets an address. Most servers will provide at least the
nameserver you should use in the dhcp config info they send out.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 06:08:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
>> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
>> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
>> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
> 
> This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
> (which
> has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
> also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
> in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
> ?
> I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
> /etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
> running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
> Is
> there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
> Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
> this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
> to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
> connection
> there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
> everything
> on this new laptop for Linux before I left.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[dude]

@cd /etc
@cat resolv.conf
nameserver 24.88.1.67
nameserver 24.88.1.66




Try putting that into resolv.conf



On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:

>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:08:46 -0400
>From: Bart Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org, Lee Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia
>Resent-From: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>
>> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
>> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
>> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
>> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
>
>This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
>(which
>has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
>also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
>in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
>?
>I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
>/etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
>running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
>Is
>there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
>Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
>this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
>to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
>connection
>there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
>everything
>on this new laptop for Linux before I left.
>
>- Bart
>
>
>

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.

This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
(which
has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
?
I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
/etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
Is
there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
connection
there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
everything
on this new laptop for Linux before I left.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:40:07PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
> > (so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
> > side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
> > from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.
> 
> Any idea what pcmcia-cs is using to handle DHCP?

Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
$BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
$DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:31:25PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> >I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
> >however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
> >use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
> >sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
> >forwarding:
> >ifconfig eth0 up
> 
> Where can I download dhclient from? I looked at packages.debian.org
> and tried searching for it in google.com/linux , but didn't find anything.
> Is
> it in dhcp-client ?

Yes.

On the packages page check the section "Search the Contents of the
Latest Release". That will tell you what package a particular file is
in if you need to do something similar in the future.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
>however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
>use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
>sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
>forwarding:
>ifconfig eth0 up

Where can I download dhclient from? I looked at packages.debian.org
and tried searching for it in google.com/linux , but didn't find anything.
Is
it in dhcp-client ?


- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

> I've had problems with tulip cards. For my Xircom RBEM56G-100, I
> have to put it in promiscuous mode to get it working. I modified
> /etc/pcmcia/network with the promisc line below.
> 
> elif [ -x /sbin/dhclient ] ; then
> # workaround for tulip bug
> /sbin/ifconfig $DEVICE promisc
> /sbin/dhclient $DEVICE >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1
> 
> 
> lspci says:
> 
> 20:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03)
> 20:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03)

   I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
   however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
   use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
   sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
   forwarding:
   
   ifconfig eth0 up
   
   ...and all is well.
   
   I'm curious to see what shows up in syslog for the dhcp
   process.  You should see something like this:
   
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: socket 0: Xircom CBEM56G-100 CardBus 
10/100 Ethernet + 56K Modem
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe cb_enabler'
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe tulip_cb'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe serial_cb'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: cs: cb_config(bus 32)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 2: mem 0xa0013000-0xa00137ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 3: mem 0xa0012000-0xa00127ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 1: io 0x280-0x287
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 2: mem 0xa0011000-0xa00117ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 3: mem 0xa001-0xa00107ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 1: io 0x200-0x27f
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 rom: mem 0xa000c000-0xa000
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 rom: mem 0xa0008000-0xa000bfff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   irq 11
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: cs: cb_enable(bus 32)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   bridge io map 0 (flags 0x21): 0x200-0x287
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   bridge mem map 0 (flags 0x1): 
0xa0008000-0xa0013fff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tulip_attach(device 20:00.0)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tulip.c:v0.91g-ppc 7/16/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(modified by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for XIRCOM CBE, fixed by Doug Ledford)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: eth0: Xircom Cardbus Adapter (DEC 21143 
compatible mode) rev 3 at 0x200, 00:10:A4:99:99:7B, IRQ 11.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: eth0:  MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 
7809 advertising 01e1.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: serial_attach(device 20:00.1)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tty02 at 0x0280 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: './network start eth0'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: + ioctl: Operation not supported
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: found peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: up
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Internet Software Consortium DHCP 
Client 2.0pl4
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 
1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: All rights reserved.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: 
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Please contribute if you find this 
software useful.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: 
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Listening on 
LPF/eth0/00:10:a4:99:99:7b
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Sending on   
LPF/eth0/00:10:a4:99:99:7b
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Sending on   
Socket/fallback/fallback-net
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: lost peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: down
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: found peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: up
Aug 20 07:53:57 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 
255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
Aug 20 07:53:57 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: receive_packet failed on eth0: 
Network is down
Aug 20 07:54:00 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 
255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
Aug 20 07:54:00 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.1
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 
255.255.255.255 port 67
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: bound to 192.168.0.10 -- renewal in 
300 seconds.
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: './serial start ttyS2'


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:39:12PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>>If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
>>included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
>>don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
>>and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.
> 
> I have the latest version of pcmcia-cs for Debian. All the
> Xircom/tulip_cb stuff is now showing up, but I still can't get
> the connection working. See the post I made before this one.
> 
> - Bart

I've had problems with tulip cards. For my Xircom RBEM56G-100, I
have to put it in promiscuous mode to get it working. I modified
/etc/pcmcia/network with the promisc line below.

elif [ -x /sbin/dhclient ] ; then
# workaround for tulip bug
/sbin/ifconfig $DEVICE promisc
/sbin/dhclient $DEVICE >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1


lspci says:

20:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03)
20:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03)

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[dude]

@cd /etc
@cat resolv.conf
nameserver 24.88.1.67
nameserver 24.88.1.66




Try putting that into resolv.conf



On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:

>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:08:46 -0400
>From: Bart Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia
>Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
>> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
>> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
>> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.
>
>This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
>(which
>has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
>also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
>in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
>?
>I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
>/etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
>running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
>Is
>there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
>Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
>this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
>to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
>connection
>there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
>everything
>on this new laptop for Linux before I left.
>
>- Bart
>
>
>


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
> (so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
> side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
> from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.

Any idea what pcmcia-cs is using to handle DHCP?

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
> a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
> $BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
> $DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.

This is getting really frustrating. I've tried pump, dhcp-client, dhcpcd
(which
has worked on other computers for this connection) without any luck. I've
also attempted to add that line to /etc/pcmcia/network to make the card run
in promisc mode. No luck. Is there anything I can do about /etc/resolv.conf
?
I noticed that the other config files point to that yet there is nothing in
/etc/resolv.conf . That file is empty. Maybe that's the problem? I've tried
running all these clients manually and that hasn't helped anything either.
Is
there anyone here on a RoadRunner connection who has gotten their
Inspiron 8000 working with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100? Could
this have something to do with RoadRunner itself? This Sunday I'll be moving
to one of my unversity's residence halls and will have an ethernet
connection
there. Maybe it'll work then, but I was hoping I would be able to setup
everything
on this new laptop for Linux before I left.

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

I jumped ahead of myself.  (And I forgot about the DHCP
thing. :) Follow Ignasi Palou-Rivera's advice and see what
`/sbin/ifconfig` tells you.  Is `eth0' listed?

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:05:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> > networking configured properly? 
> What do you mean by configured properly? Normally for this
> Internet connection I would setup the network card, install
> dhcpcd, and everything would work. I have pcmcia-cs configured
> for DHCP so I'm assuming on that side everything should be working.
> 
> > Does syslog imply that networking is
> > up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> > /etc/init.d/networking stop
> > /etc/init.d/networking start
> That went through just fine.
> 
> > Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> > you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> > properly?  
> I was pinging names. By the way, when apt is trying to update, it is
> saying it can't resolve the URLs. I looked in /etc/resolv.conf and
> there's nothing there.
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Ignasi Palou-Rivera]

> >From ifconfig I get:
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A4:17:58:A8  
>   UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x100 

No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
(so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Petr Hlustik]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>
> OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
> up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
> thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
> BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.

The other option is to compile and install the re-designed tulip driver as
per

http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html

Basically, tulip_cb has been split into cb_enabler, pci-scan, cb_shim and
tulip.

That is what I had to do to get my Linksys CardBus card working - I had
similar symptoms to yours.

You can try to find out whether your card matches one listed. There is also
a tulip mailing list that you could ask
(http://www.scyld.com/mailman/listinfo/tulip).

Good luck,
Petr

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> What does /sbin/ifconfig tell you? You should be able to get the
> current configured netwrok interfaces from there. Is eth0 in there?

>From ifconfig I get:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A4:17:58:A8  
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x100 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:40:07PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
> > (so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
> > side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
> > from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.
> 
> Any idea what pcmcia-cs is using to handle DHCP?

Check /etc/pcmcia/network and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. The logic seems
a bit involved. For example, pump can be started if $PUMP is true; or
$BOOTP is true, but there are no other bootp clients; or either $DHCP or
$DHCLIENT is true and there are no other dhcp clients.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> networking configured properly? 
What do you mean by configured properly? Normally for this
Internet connection I would setup the network card, install
dhcpcd, and everything would work. I have pcmcia-cs configured
for DHCP so I'm assuming on that side everything should be working.

> Does syslog imply that networking is
> up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> /etc/init.d/networking stop
> /etc/init.d/networking start
That went through just fine.

> Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> properly?  
I was pinging names. By the way, when apt is trying to update, it is
saying it can't resolve the URLs. I looked in /etc/resolv.conf and
there's nothing there.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:31:25PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> >I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
> >however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
> >use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
> >sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
> >forwarding:
> >ifconfig eth0 up
> 
> Where can I download dhclient from? I looked at packages.debian.org
> and tried searching for it in google.com/linux , but didn't find anything.
> Is
> it in dhcp-client ?

Yes.

On the packages page check the section "Search the Contents of the
Latest Release". That will tell you what package a particular file is
in if you need to do something similar in the future.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Ignasi Palou-Rivera]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:48:44PM -0500, Clayton Carter wrote:
> 
>   OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> networking configured properly?  Does syslog imply that networking is
> up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> 
> /etc/init.d/networking stop
> /etc/init.d/networking start
> 
>   Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> properly?  

What does /sbin/ifconfig tell you? You should be able to get the
current configured netwrok interfaces from there. Is eth0 in there?

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
networking configured properly?  Does syslog imply that networking is
up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:

/etc/init.d/networking stop
/etc/init.d/networking start

Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
properly?  

And you're greatly welcome.  :)

--c


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > From my (limited) knowledge of pcmcia and it's workings, it
> > shouldn't matter what slot you put the card into.
> 
> OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
> up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
> thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
> BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.
> 
> I'm booting this system with a rescue disk. On boot I type:
> rescue root=/dev/hda3
> 
> Could that be screwing anything up? BTW, thanks for your help
> so far.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
>included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
>don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
>and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.

I have the latest version of pcmcia-cs for Debian. All the
Xircom/tulip_cb stuff is now showing up, but I still can't get
the connection working. See the post I made before this one.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> From my (limited) knowledge of pcmcia and it's workings, it
> shouldn't matter what slot you put the card into.

OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.

I'm booting this system with a rescue disk. On boot I type:
rescue root=/dev/hda3

Could that be screwing anything up? BTW, thanks for your help
so far.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

Bart Szyszka, 2001-Aug-21 13:01 -0400:
> > And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> > for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> > bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> > months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)
> 
> How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
> I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
> there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
> for me?
> 
> - Bart

   Coming into this thread late, so sorry if I missed something
   pertinent...
   
   All the modules will be in:
   
   /lib/modules//pcmcia
   
   If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
   included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
   don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
   and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.
   
   If the module isn't there, you'll need to upgrade to a newer
   version.
   
   jc
   
   
 
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
>however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
>use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
>sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
>forwarding:
>ifconfig eth0 up

Where can I download dhclient from? I looked at packages.debian.org
and tried searching for it in google.com/linux , but didn't find anything.
Is
it in dhcp-client ?


- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

From my (limited) knowledge of pcmcia and it's workings, it
shouldn't matter what slot you put the card into.

Do a `dpkg -l \*pcmcia\*` to see if there are any pcmcia
packages you've not installed.

--c

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:06:09PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > Look in the syslog (/var/log/syslog) to see what `cardmgr` is
> > telling the system.  On my i4k, when I plug in the card, `cardmgr`
> > beeps to let me know it recognizes the insertion.  After a few
> > seconds, it beeps again to let me know that it's done loading the
> > modules and setting things up.  If it fails or bombs or barfs or dies
> > or anything, it'll probably say in syslog.
> 
> Does it make a difference if I put the card in the top slot or in the
> bottom one? Right now it's in the bottom slot.
> 
> - Bart

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

> I've had problems with tulip cards. For my Xircom RBEM56G-100, I
> have to put it in promiscuous mode to get it working. I modified
> /etc/pcmcia/network with the promisc line below.
> 
> elif [ -x /sbin/dhclient ] ; then
> # workaround for tulip bug
> /sbin/ifconfig $DEVICE promisc
> /sbin/dhclient $DEVICE >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1
> 
> 
> lspci says:
> 
> 20:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03)
> 20:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03)

   I use the same card and used to put it in promisc mode,
   however, I found this is not necessary.  I dumped pump and now
   use dhclient-2.2.x.  This client always gets an IP config, but
   sometimes I just need to remind it that it's up to get it
   forwarding:
   
   ifconfig eth0 up
   
   ...and all is well.
   
   I'm curious to see what shows up in syslog for the dhcp
   process.  You should see something like this:
   
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: socket 0: Xircom CBEM56G-100 CardBus 10/100 
Ethernet + 56K Modem
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe cb_enabler'
Aug 20 07:53:54 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe tulip_cb'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: 'modprobe serial_cb'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: cs: cb_config(bus 32)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 2: mem 0xa0013000-0xa00137ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 3: mem 0xa0012000-0xa00127ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 1: io 0x280-0x287
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 2: mem 0xa0011000-0xa00117ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 bar 3: mem 0xa001-0xa00107ff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 bar 1: io 0x200-0x27f
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 0 rom: mem 0xa000c000-0xa000
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   fn 1 rom: mem 0xa0008000-0xa000bfff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   irq 11
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: cs: cb_enable(bus 32)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   bridge io map 0 (flags 0x21): 0x200-0x287
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel:   bridge mem map 0 (flags 0x1): 0xa0008000-0xa0013fff
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tulip_attach(device 20:00.0)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tulip.c:v0.91g-ppc 7/16/99 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (modified by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for XIRCOM CBE, 
fixed by Doug Ledford)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: eth0: Xircom Cardbus Adapter (DEC 21143 compatible 
mode) rev 3 at 0x200, 00:10:A4:99:99:7B, IRQ 11.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: eth0:  MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 
advertising 01e1.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: serial_attach(device 20:00.1)
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: tty02 at 0x0280 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: './network start eth0'
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost cardmgr[6841]: + ioctl: Operation not supported
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: found peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: up
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 
2.0pl4
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The 
Internet Software Consortium.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: All rights reserved.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: 
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Please contribute if you find this software 
useful.
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
Aug 20 07:53:55 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: 
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:10:a4:99:99:7b
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:10:a4:99:99:7b
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: lost peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: down
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: found peer eth0
Aug 20 07:53:56 localhost kernel: bridge-eth0: up
Aug 20 07:53:57 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 5
Aug 20 07:53:57 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is 
down
Aug 20 07:54:00 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 
67 interval 13
Aug 20 07:54:00 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.1
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 
67
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost dhclient-2.2.x: bound to 192.168.0.10 -- renewal in 300 
seconds.
Aug 20 07:54:02 localhost cardmgr[6841]: executing: './serial start ttyS2'


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Look in the syslog (/var/log/syslog) to see what `cardmgr` is
> telling the system.  On my i4k, when I plug in the card, `cardmgr`
> beeps to let me know it recognizes the insertion.  After a few
> seconds, it beeps again to let me know that it's done loading the
> modules and setting things up.  If it fails or bombs or barfs or dies
> or anything, it'll probably say in syslog.

Does it make a difference if I put the card in the top slot or in the
bottom one? Right now it's in the bottom slot.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

I don't recall one way or the other whether I had the modules
package installed.  I'll check when I get home and relay the info.

Look in the syslog (/var/log/syslog) to see what `cardmgr` is
telling the system.  On my i4k, when I plug in the card, `cardmgr`
beeps to let me know it recognizes the insertion.  After a few
seconds, it beeps again to let me know that it's done loading the
modules and setting things up.  If it fails or bombs or barfs or dies
or anything, it'll probably say in syslog.

I don't recall adding anything to modconf or whatever to get
this working.


--c


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:52:06PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
> > tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
> > not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
> > package is installed, everything `just works'.
> 
> So in modconf I don't need anything under the net section? How do I
> check for the network card working? I had set up pcmcia-cs for DHCP
> which is what I've always needed for this cable connection. But when apt
> is updating, it fails right away. Do I need any of the pcmcia-modules
> packages listed under:
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-cs.html
> 
> I'm going to try installing dhcpcd (which I've done in the past) to see if
> that helps.
> 
> - Bart

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
> tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
> not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
> package is installed, everything `just works'.

So in modconf I don't need anything under the net section? How do I
check for the network card working? I had set up pcmcia-cs for DHCP
which is what I've always needed for this cable connection. But when apt
is updating, it fails right away. Do I need any of the pcmcia-modules
packages listed under:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-cs.html

I'm going to try installing dhcpcd (which I've done in the past) to see if
that helps.

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
package is installed, everything `just works'.

--c



On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:01:01PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> > for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> > bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> > months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)
> 
> How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
> I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
> there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
> for me?
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:39:12PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>>If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
>>included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
>>don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
>>and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.
> 
> I have the latest version of pcmcia-cs for Debian. All the
> Xircom/tulip_cb stuff is now showing up, but I still can't get
> the connection working. See the post I made before this one.
> 
> - Bart

I've had problems with tulip cards. For my Xircom RBEM56G-100, I
have to put it in promiscuous mode to get it working. I modified
/etc/pcmcia/network with the promisc line below.

elif [ -x /sbin/dhclient ] ; then
# workaround for tulip bug
/sbin/ifconfig $DEVICE promisc
/sbin/dhclient $DEVICE >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1


lspci says:

20:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03)
20:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03)

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
> (so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
> side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
> from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.

Any idea what pcmcia-cs is using to handle DHCP?

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

I jumped ahead of myself.  (And I forgot about the DHCP
thing. :) Follow Ignasi Palou-Rivera's advice and see what
`/sbin/ifconfig` tells you.  Is `eth0' listed?

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:05:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> > networking configured properly? 
> What do you mean by configured properly? Normally for this
> Internet connection I would setup the network card, install
> dhcpcd, and everything would work. I have pcmcia-cs configured
> for DHCP so I'm assuming on that side everything should be working.
> 
> > Does syslog imply that networking is
> > up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> > /etc/init.d/networking stop
> > /etc/init.d/networking start
> That went through just fine.
> 
> > Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> > you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> > properly?  
> I was pinging names. By the way, when apt is trying to update, it is
> saying it can't resolve the URLs. I looked in /etc/resolv.conf and
> there's nothing there.
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Ignasi Palou-Rivera]

> >From ifconfig I get:
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A4:17:58:A8  
>   UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x100 

No inet address. Between this and your /etc/resolv.conf being empty
(so no DNS entries), I'd think that the problem lies with the DHCP
side. It doesn't look like eth0 is getting the right configuration
from the server. I'm snot too familiar with DHCP, though.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)

How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
for me?

- Bart

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Petr Hlustik]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>
> OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
> up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
> thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
> BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.

The other option is to compile and install the re-designed tulip driver as
per

http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html

Basically, tulip_cb has been split into cb_enabler, pci-scan, cb_shim and
tulip.

That is what I had to do to get my Linksys CardBus card working - I had
similar symptoms to yours.

You can try to find out whether your card matches one listed. There is also
a tulip mailing list that you could ask
(http://www.scyld.com/mailman/listinfo/tulip).

Good luck,
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> What does /sbin/ifconfig tell you? You should be able to get the
> current configured netwrok interfaces from there. Is eth0 in there?

>From ifconfig I get:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:A4:17:58:A8  
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x100 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> networking configured properly? 
What do you mean by configured properly? Normally for this
Internet connection I would setup the network card, install
dhcpcd, and everything would work. I have pcmcia-cs configured
for DHCP so I'm assuming on that side everything should be working.

> Does syslog imply that networking is
> up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> /etc/init.d/networking stop
> /etc/init.d/networking start
That went through just fine.

> Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> properly?  
I was pinging names. By the way, when apt is trying to update, it is
saying it can't resolve the URLs. I looked in /etc/resolv.conf and
there's nothing there.

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Ignasi Palou-Rivera]

On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:48:44PM -0500, Clayton Carter wrote:
> 
>   OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
> networking configured properly?  Does syslog imply that networking is
> up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:
> 
> /etc/init.d/networking stop
> /etc/init.d/networking start
> 
>   Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
> you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
> properly?  

What does /sbin/ifconfig tell you? You should be able to get the
current configured netwrok interfaces from there. Is eth0 in there?

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

OK.  So the card is being recognized and initialized.  So is
networking configured properly?  Does syslog imply that networking is
up?  After you hear the beeps, try this:

/etc/init.d/networking stop
/etc/init.d/networking start

Or something close.  (Like I said, my box is at home.)  Are
you pinging IPs, or names?  If names, is /etc/resolv.conf configured
properly?  

And you're greatly welcome.  :)

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > From my (limited) knowledge of pcmcia and it's workings, it
> > shouldn't matter what slot you put the card into.
> 
> OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
> up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
> thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
> BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.
> 
> I'm booting this system with a rescue disk. On boot I type:
> rescue root=/dev/hda3
> 
> Could that be screwing anything up? BTW, thanks for your help
> so far.
> 
> - Bart
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
>included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
>don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
>and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.

I have the latest version of pcmcia-cs for Debian. All the
Xircom/tulip_cb stuff is now showing up, but I still can't get
the connection working. See the post I made before this one.

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> From my (limited) knowledge of pcmcia and it's workings, it
> shouldn't matter what slot you put the card into.

OK, the Xircom card, tulip_cb, and everything else now shows
up and I get the beep, yet I still can't get a connection out of this
thing. Apt isn't working and pinging random sites isn't working either.
BTW, the connection is working just fine in WindowsMe.

I'm booting this system with a rescue disk. On boot I type:
rescue root=/dev/hda3

Could that be screwing anything up? BTW, thanks for your help
so far.

- Bart



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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Jeff Coppock]

Bart Szyszka, 2001-Aug-21 13:01 -0400:
> > And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> > for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> > bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> > months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)
> 
> How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
> I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
> there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
> for me?
> 
> - Bart

   Coming into this thread late, so sorry if I missed something
   pertinent...
   
   All the modules will be in:
   
   /lib/modules//pcmcia
   
   If you don't see it here, then it didn't get compiled or
   included with the package, or your pcmcia_cs is too old.  I
   don't know when tulip_cb first came out.  I'm running 3.1.25
   and use this module for my RBEM56G-100BTX.
   
   If the module isn't there, you'll need to upgrade to a newer
   version.
   
   jc
   
   
 
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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Look in the syslog (/var/log/syslog) to see what `cardmgr` is
> telling the system.  On my i4k, when I plug in the card, `cardmgr`
> beeps to let me know it recognizes the insertion.  After a few
> seconds, it beeps again to let me know that it's done loading the
> modules and setting things up.  If it fails or bombs or barfs or dies
> or anything, it'll probably say in syslog.

Does it make a difference if I put the card in the top slot or in the
bottom one? Right now it's in the bottom slot.

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

I don't recall one way or the other whether I had the modules
package installed.  I'll check when I get home and relay the info.

Look in the syslog (/var/log/syslog) to see what `cardmgr` is
telling the system.  On my i4k, when I plug in the card, `cardmgr`
beeps to let me know it recognizes the insertion.  After a few
seconds, it beeps again to let me know that it's done loading the
modules and setting things up.  If it fails or bombs or barfs or dies
or anything, it'll probably say in syslog.

I don't recall adding anything to modconf or whatever to get
this working.


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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:52:06PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
> > tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
> > not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
> > package is installed, everything `just works'.
> 
> So in modconf I don't need anything under the net section? How do I
> check for the network card working? I had set up pcmcia-cs for DHCP
> which is what I've always needed for this cable connection. But when apt
> is updating, it fails right away. Do I need any of the pcmcia-modules
> packages listed under:
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-cs.html
> 
> I'm going to try installing dhcpcd (which I've done in the past) to see if
> that helps.
> 
> - Bart

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
> tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
> not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
> package is installed, everything `just works'.

So in modconf I don't need anything under the net section? How do I
check for the network card working? I had set up pcmcia-cs for DHCP
which is what I've always needed for this cable connection. But when apt
is updating, it fails right away. Do I need any of the pcmcia-modules
packages listed under:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/pcmcia-cs.html

I'm going to try installing dhcpcd (which I've done in the past) to see if
that helps.

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

Make sure that you have the pcmcia-cs package installed.  The
tuplip_cb driver is (I believe) a driver belonging to that package and
not a kernel module.  From my experience, as long as the pcmcia-cs
package is installed, everything `just works'.

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:01:01PM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> > for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> > bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> > months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)
> 
> How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
> I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
> there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
> for me?
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

From  :

...

Fast Ethernet (10/100baseT) adapters:

...

[tulip_cb driver] [x86,ppc]
...
[ Not recommended: support is experimental and unreliable ]
...
Xircom CBE2-100BTX, RBE-100BTX, R2BE-100BTX

...

And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)

--c


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:31:15AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having
> trouble finding the right module for the network card. It's the
> Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 .  Again, this is on a Dell
> Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is pcmcia.  I've
> tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip'
> option and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[dude]

look on linux-laptop.net for you laptop model.

They will list the modules it uses

G



On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:

>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:31:15 -0400
>From: Bart Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: noah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia
>Resent-From: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>
>>When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot
>>Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the
>>quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation
>>continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package -
>>say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are
>>further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for
>>another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff"
>>- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file.
>>Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's
>>called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo,
>>and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.
>
>Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having trouble finding
>the right module for the network card. It's the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 
>10/100 .
>Again, this is on a Dell Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is 
>pcmcia.
>I've tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip' option 
>and that
>didn't work either. Any suggestions?
>
>

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

> And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
> for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
> bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
> months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)

How exactly would I load the tulib_cb module into Debian? When
I run modconf , it's not listed. Only tulip is and that doesn't work. Is
there a binary or some package for Debian potato that will set it up
for me?

- Bart


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot 
>Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the 
>quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation 
>continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package - 
>say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are 
>further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for 
>another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff" 
>- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file. 
>Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's 
>called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo, 
>and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.

Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having trouble finding
the right module for the network card. It's the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 
10/100 .
Again, this is on a Dell Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is 
pcmcia.
I've tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip' option 
and that
didn't work either. Any suggestions?

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Clayton Carter]

From  :

...

Fast Ethernet (10/100baseT) adapters:

...

[tulip_cb driver] [x86,ppc]
...
[ Not recommended: support is experimental and unreliable ]
...
Xircom CBE2-100BTX, RBE-100BTX, R2BE-100BTX

...

And I believe that the CBE2-100BTX is what you're looking
for; so give the tulip_cb driver a shot.  (If the experimental thing
bugs you, don't worry; I've been using an RBEM56G-100BTX for several
months now on an Inspiron 4000 and it's considered experimental.)

--c


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:31:15AM -0400, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having
> trouble finding the right module for the network card. It's the
> Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 .  Again, this is on a Dell
> Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is pcmcia.  I've
> tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip'
> option and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
> 

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[dude]

look on linux-laptop.net for you laptop model.

They will list the modules it uses

G



On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:

>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:31:15 -0400
>From: Bart Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: noah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia
>Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot
>>Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the
>>quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation
>>continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package -
>>say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are
>>further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for
>>another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff"
>>- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file.
>>Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's
>>called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo,
>>and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.
>
>Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having trouble finding
>the right module for the network card. It's the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 .
>Again, this is on a Dell Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is pcmcia.
>I've tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip' option and 
>that
>didn't work either. Any suggestions?
>
>


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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[Bart Szyszka]

>When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot 
>Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the 
>quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation 
>continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package - 
>say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are 
>further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for 
>another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff" 
>- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file. 
>Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's 
>called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo, 
>and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.

Thanks, that did the trick. Now the problem is that I'm having trouble finding
the right module for the network card. It's the Xircom CardBus Ethernet II 10/100 .
Again, this is on a Dell Inspiron 8000 and I'm pretty sure that this card is pcmcia.
I've tried the ess...100 and that didn't work. I also tried the 'tulip' option and that
didn't work either. Any suggestions?

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Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[noah]

At 11:14 PM 20/08/2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:

Hi,

I just got a Dell Inspiron 8000 and am getting stuck trying to get the thing
to work. I have WindowsMe setup on a seperate partition, but after trying
to install Debian once I can't get to WinMe because the Debian setup option to
boot from harddrive didn't let me specify what partitions should be available
during boot (or which should be active for that matter). Now I have a
Debian system that loads automatically and stops during boot because of 
pcmcia.
And I can't get to WinMe because of LILO. I've tried reinstalling, but 
whenever I
get to the option to 'Configure PCMCIA' so I could make sure it's not 
installed,

the Debian setup freezes. Any ideas on how I could go about setting up Debian
and avoid PCMCIA completely. At the rescue disk boot= prompt, is there 
anything

I could do like pcmcia=noway ? People have suggested that before rebooting a
freshly installed system, I should try to either remove pcmcia or go to 
/etc/ and
edit a file that starts with an 'r' (rc2.d?) to get rid of some line that 
deals with pcmcia.
Problem is that there's no dpkg at this point in the install for me to be 
able to just
remove pcmcia and there's no file or directly that starts with an 'r' in 
/etc/ either.

I'd appreciate some help. Thanks!


You'll probably have to reinstall Debian from scratch to make this work.

When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot 
Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the 
quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation 
continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package - 
say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are 
further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for 
another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff" 
- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file. 
Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's 
called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo, 
and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.


HTH,

Noah

Re: Debian setup freezes when trying to remove pcmcia

[noah]

At 11:14 PM 20/08/2001, Bart Szyszka wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just got a Dell Inspiron 8000 and am getting stuck trying to get the thing
>to work. I have WindowsMe setup on a seperate partition, but after trying
>to install Debian once I can't get to WinMe because the Debian setup option to
>boot from harddrive didn't let me specify what partitions should be available
>during boot (or which should be active for that matter). Now I have a
>Debian system that loads automatically and stops during boot because of 
>pcmcia.
>And I can't get to WinMe because of LILO. I've tried reinstalling, but 
>whenever I
>get to the option to 'Configure PCMCIA' so I could make sure it's not 
>installed,
>the Debian setup freezes. Any ideas on how I could go about setting up Debian
>and avoid PCMCIA completely. At the rescue disk boot= prompt, is there 
>anything
>I could do like pcmcia=noway ? People have suggested that before rebooting a
>freshly installed system, I should try to either remove pcmcia or go to 
>/etc/ and
>edit a file that starts with an 'r' (rc2.d?) to get rid of some line that 
>deals with pcmcia.
>Problem is that there's no dpkg at this point in the install for me to be 
>able to just
>remove pcmcia and there's no file or directly that starts with an 'r' in 
>/etc/ either.
>I'd appreciate some help. Thanks!

You'll probably have to reinstall Debian from scratch to make this work.

When installing, ignore the "Configure PCMCIA" but choose "Edit Kernel Boot 
Options" (or something like that), and add "PCMCIA=no" (without the 
quotes). The system should boot fine without PCMCIA. As the installation 
continues, Debian will ask you if you want to remove the PCMCIA package - 
say no. Once you finish setup and you boot to the command line (there are 
further hassles ahead for getting X working, but I'll leave that for 
another day), edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to remove the port "0x800-0x8ff" 
- it's the middle of three ports listed near the beginning of the file. 
Once you've done this, edit /etc/lilo.conf (I think that's what it's 
called) and remove (or comment out) the "PCMCIA=no" line. Then run lilo, 
and reboot - PCMCIA should load no problem.

HTH,

Noah


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