Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jack 

| > I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
| > linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
| > the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
| > very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
| > re-insert the card).
|
| How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

with the same AP and a Xircom card (really a Cisco 340) I get around
433Kbyte/sec over NFS.  Using a Compaq WL110 the test hangs after a
while.  This is using the kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686 package
modules.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen

* Jack 

| > I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
| > linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
| > the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
| > very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
| > re-insert the card).
|
| How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

with the same AP and a Xircom card (really a Cisco 340) I get around
433Kbyte/sec over NFS.  Using a Compaq WL110 the test hangs after a
while.  This is using the kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686 package
modules.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-22 Thread Jack
Some good news for DWL650 users, linux-wlan-ng-0.1.14-pre3.tar.gz just
out of stove and it fixed the downloading (Finally,  I can download
kernel from local lan successfully at speed >500KB/s :)  However,
uploading still does not behave for heavy load.

Many thanks to Keith,  your reply let me try harder.

Thanks,
Jack


On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:00:49PM -0400, Keith Geffert wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 13:33, Jack wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for the reply.  
> > 
> > Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
> > say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.
> > 
> 
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio cardmgr[256]: executing: './wlan-ng start wlan0'
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
> 
> And via the web based admin tool for the AP my ap firmware is 3.2.31
> 
> I'm running 2.4.18 with the preemptible kernel patch.
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-22 Thread Jack

Some good news for DWL650 users, linux-wlan-ng-0.1.14-pre3.tar.gz just
out of stove and it fixed the downloading (Finally,  I can download
kernel from local lan successfully at speed >500KB/s :)  However,
uploading still does not behave for heavy load.

Many thanks to Keith,  your reply let me try harder.

Thanks,
Jack


On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:00:49PM -0400, Keith Geffert wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 13:33, Jack wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for the reply.  
> > 
> > Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
> > say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.
> > 
> 
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio cardmgr[256]: executing: './wlan-ng start wlan0'
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
> May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
> 
> And via the web based admin tool for the AP my ap firmware is 3.2.31
> 
> I'm running 2.4.18 with the preemptible kernel patch.
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Geffert
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 13:33, Jack wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the reply.  
> 
> Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
> say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.
> 

May 21 18:55:16 vaio cardmgr[256]: executing: './wlan-ng start wlan0'
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5

And via the web based admin tool for the AP my ap firmware is 3.2.31

I'm running 2.4.18 with the preemptible kernel patch.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Geffert

On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 13:33, Jack wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the reply.  
> 
> Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
> say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.
> 

May 21 18:55:16 vaio cardmgr[256]: executing: './wlan-ng start wlan0'
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
May 21 18:55:16 vaio kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5

And via the web based admin tool for the AP my ap firmware is 3.2.31

I'm running 2.4.18 with the preemptible kernel patch.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Jack
Thanks a lot for the reply.  

Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:56:27AM -0400, Keith Geffert wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:41, Jack wrote:
> > How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?
> 
> For testing purposes I've copied 100meg files from several locations in
> my home to see if I could cause some type of failure.  I use wmnet to
> watch as I download I get anywhere from 200 to 500kpbs (according to
> wmnet) and always seem to copy the file fine.  (used http, ftp, smb, and
> nfs).
> 
> I did see some issues in the office   The bit stream would be nice
> and consistent and then drop for half a second or so (drop to nothing)
> and then pick back up... I could not replicate this at home, I have a
> sneaking suspicion its one of the cables/cards on the wired side of
> things.
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Jack

Thanks a lot for the reply.  

Could you give the firmware version of your DWL650?  (what does wlan-ng
say:  ident: sta f/w: id ... ?)  My card is 1.3.4.

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:56:27AM -0400, Keith Geffert wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:41, Jack wrote:
> > How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?
> 
> For testing purposes I've copied 100meg files from several locations in
> my home to see if I could cause some type of failure.  I use wmnet to
> watch as I download I get anywhere from 200 to 500kpbs (according to
> wmnet) and always seem to copy the file fine.  (used http, ftp, smb, and
> nfs).
> 
> I did see some issues in the office   The bit stream would be nice
> and consistent and then drop for half a second or so (drop to nothing)
> and then pick back up... I could not replicate this at home, I have a
> sneaking suspicion its one of the cables/cards on the wired side of
> things.
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Geffert
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:41, Jack wrote:
> How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

For testing purposes I've copied 100meg files from several locations in
my home to see if I could cause some type of failure.  I use wmnet to
watch as I download I get anywhere from 200 to 500kpbs (according to
wmnet) and always seem to copy the file fine.  (used http, ftp, smb, and
nfs).

I did see some issues in the office   The bit stream would be nice
and consistent and then drop for half a second or so (drop to nothing)
and then pick back up... I could not replicate this at home, I have a
sneaking suspicion its one of the cables/cards on the wired side of
things.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Jack

> I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
> linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
> the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
> very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
> re-insert the card).
How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

Thanks,
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Geffert

On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:41, Jack wrote:
> How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

For testing purposes I've copied 100meg files from several locations in
my home to see if I could cause some type of failure.  I use wmnet to
watch as I download I get anywhere from 200 to 500kpbs (according to
wmnet) and always seem to copy the file fine.  (used http, ftp, smb, and
nfs).

I did see some issues in the office   The bit stream would be nice
and consistent and then drop for half a second or so (drop to nothing)
and then pick back up... I could not replicate this at home, I have a
sneaking suspicion its one of the cables/cards on the wired side of
things.

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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-21 Thread Jack


> I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
> linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
> the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
> very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
> re-insert the card).
How good is the performance when you put heavy load on it in ideal env?

Thanks,
Jack


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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Keith Geffert
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 15:24, Jack wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using kernel 2.4.18,  latest orinoco_cs driver (same as
> 2.4.19-pre8's,  btw the driver comes with 2.4.18 does not work well at
> all), pcmcia-cs 3.1.33:

I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
re-insert the card).


 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Robin Rodriguez
I don't have any issues disconnecting from the wireless interface. I use a 
Lucent Orrinoco Silver card and a SMC access point. This is under 2.4.18 using 
the orrinoco_cs driver. I imagine the issue is with your cards firmware and/or 
the firmware of your AP


robin out
On Sun, 19 May 2002 22:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
cyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I get similar issues - interesting of note, however - is I tried switching
> to a belkin 'wireless notebook network card' and had basically the same
> problems.  My access point (at home) is the dlink 713p, which I expect is
> the cause of my problems (and perhaps yours) because I *don't* have these
> problems at work (early run airport with upgraded firmware).
> 
> Interestingly enough, however, is that I don't believe the problem is the
> actual transfer - because on lan transfers I rarely lose the wireless
> connectivity, I expect it's the traditional "too many collisions,
> shutting down this port" from the switches perspective (you get the same
> issue if you jack a 10baseT hub into a 10/100baseT switch and do large
> transfers, the switch just shuts the port off until its power cycled.  I
> expect the lan transfers go off without a hitch and there's less air
> traffic or resent packets.  Come to think - the lan transfers are normally
> copying from the laptop (wireless) to a wired host - whereas the internet
> transfers are copying to the laptop - so there would just be ACK's coming
> back down the air on the LAN stuff.
> 
> Aww hell, I'm just rambling now - hope this helps you some though.  I pray
> daily for firmware updates for my AP to fix this.
> 
> P.S. - anyone get disconnects a *lot* with their wireless? I idle on IRC
> and I'll get disconnected easily 6-10 times throughout a day. [not the
> internet connection, as a wired machine doesn't experience the same
> disco's]
> 
> -Martin N.
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread cyn
I get similar issues - interesting of note, however - is I tried switching
to a belkin 'wireless notebook network card' and had basically the same
problems.  My access point (at home) is the dlink 713p, which I expect is
the cause of my problems (and perhaps yours) because I *don't* have these
problems at work (early run airport with upgraded firmware).

Interestingly enough, however, is that I don't believe the problem is the
actual transfer - because on lan transfers I rarely lose the wireless
connectivity, I expect it's the traditional "too many collisions,
shutting down this port" from the switches perspective (you get the same
issue if you jack a 10baseT hub into a 10/100baseT switch and do large
transfers, the switch just shuts the port off until its power cycled.  I
expect the lan transfers go off without a hitch and there's less air
traffic or resent packets.  Come to think - the lan transfers are normally
copying from the laptop (wireless) to a wired host - whereas the internet
transfers are copying to the laptop - so there would just be ACK's coming
back down the air on the LAN stuff.

Aww hell, I'm just rambling now - hope this helps you some though.  I pray
daily for firmware updates for my AP to fix this.

P.S. - anyone get disconnects a *lot* with their wireless? I idle on IRC
and I'll get disconnected easily 6-10 times throughout a day. [not the
internet connection, as a wired machine doesn't experience the same
disco's]

-Martin N.


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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Keith Geffert

On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 15:24, Jack wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using kernel 2.4.18,  latest orinoco_cs driver (same as
> 2.4.19-pre8's,  btw the driver comes with 2.4.18 does not work well at
> all), pcmcia-cs 3.1.33:

I have a pair of 650's and a dlink ap1000 access point.  I use the
linux-wlan-ng drivers (currently I'm using 0.1.14pre2).  I'm happy with
the performance and only have issues when my signal strength is very
very low.  (won't come back after getting closer to the ap, I have to
re-insert the card).


 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Robin Rodriguez

I don't have any issues disconnecting from the wireless interface. I use a Lucent 
Orrinoco Silver card and a SMC access point. This is under 2.4.18 using the 
orrinoco_cs driver. I imagine the issue is with your cards firmware and/or the 
firmware of your AP


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On Sun, 19 May 2002 22:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
cyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I get similar issues - interesting of note, however - is I tried switching
> to a belkin 'wireless notebook network card' and had basically the same
> problems.  My access point (at home) is the dlink 713p, which I expect is
> the cause of my problems (and perhaps yours) because I *don't* have these
> problems at work (early run airport with upgraded firmware).
> 
> Interestingly enough, however, is that I don't believe the problem is the
> actual transfer - because on lan transfers I rarely lose the wireless
> connectivity, I expect it's the traditional "too many collisions,
> shutting down this port" from the switches perspective (you get the same
> issue if you jack a 10baseT hub into a 10/100baseT switch and do large
> transfers, the switch just shuts the port off until its power cycled.  I
> expect the lan transfers go off without a hitch and there's less air
> traffic or resent packets.  Come to think - the lan transfers are normally
> copying from the laptop (wireless) to a wired host - whereas the internet
> transfers are copying to the laptop - so there would just be ACK's coming
> back down the air on the LAN stuff.
> 
> Aww hell, I'm just rambling now - hope this helps you some though.  I pray
> daily for firmware updates for my AP to fix this.
> 
> P.S. - anyone get disconnects a *lot* with their wireless? I idle on IRC
> and I'll get disconnected easily 6-10 times throughout a day. [not the
> internet connection, as a wired machine doesn't experience the same
> disco's]
> 
> -Martin N.
> 
> 
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread cyn

I get similar issues - interesting of note, however - is I tried switching
to a belkin 'wireless notebook network card' and had basically the same
problems.  My access point (at home) is the dlink 713p, which I expect is
the cause of my problems (and perhaps yours) because I *don't* have these
problems at work (early run airport with upgraded firmware).

Interestingly enough, however, is that I don't believe the problem is the
actual transfer - because on lan transfers I rarely lose the wireless
connectivity, I expect it's the traditional "too many collisions,
shutting down this port" from the switches perspective (you get the same
issue if you jack a 10baseT hub into a 10/100baseT switch and do large
transfers, the switch just shuts the port off until its power cycled.  I
expect the lan transfers go off without a hitch and there's less air
traffic or resent packets.  Come to think - the lan transfers are normally
copying from the laptop (wireless) to a wired host - whereas the internet
transfers are copying to the laptop - so there would just be ACK's coming
back down the air on the LAN stuff.

Aww hell, I'm just rambling now - hope this helps you some though.  I pray
daily for firmware updates for my AP to fix this.

P.S. - anyone get disconnects a *lot* with their wireless? I idle on IRC
and I'll get disconnected easily 6-10 times throughout a day. [not the
internet connection, as a wired machine doesn't experience the same
disco's]

-Martin N.


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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Jack
Same setup works perfectly with a Orinoco Silver.

Thank,
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Re: Dlink DWL650 half working, link-Down when heavy loaded

2002-05-19 Thread Jack

Same setup works perfectly with a Orinoco Silver.

Thank,
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