Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim wrote: >>> > Bolan Meek wrote: > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > Tim wrote: I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably something to do with the drive geometry. [snip] I (Heather) wrote: >> I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... >> in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard >> drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. >> >> You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the >> Linuxcare bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, >> updated kernel though) and configures the bootup. >> >> However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. >> If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with >> that :) >> Forget using the installer. [ doing it "by hand" ellided ] [ my own questions about minor things to chase down, ellided ] > Wow! > I'm quite blown away by that. > It willtake me some time to digest. :) > I'm 1,00 miles from home for the next 2 weeks so have time to work > through it. > The laptop in question is an odd one with non-standard drive so using > the drive on another machine is not an option. On many laptops the allegedly proprietary interfaces to the drives are really in the form of a very small adapter on the pins, to transform a 2.5" style IDE pinout (in older boxes, maybe a 3.5" IDE) to match the inner port (which really -is- proprietary) For instance that was true of my Sager NP3600. It doesn't means it's not a PITA tho, or that you necessarily want to take a system apart when you might not have to. > I'm thinking of simply restarting from scratch with the floppies but not > using dselect, which seems to be a large part of your suggestion. > > Thanks, > Tim That will probably work. * Heather Stern * star@ many places *
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim wrote: >>> > Bolan Meek wrote: > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > Tim wrote: I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably something to do with the drive geometry. [snip] I (Heather) wrote: >> I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... >> in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard >> drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. >> >> You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the >> Linuxcare bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, >> updated kernel though) and configures the bootup. >> >> However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. >> If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with >> that :) >> Forget using the installer. [ doing it "by hand" ellided ] [ my own questions about minor things to chase down, ellided ] > Wow! > I'm quite blown away by that. > It willtake me some time to digest. :) > I'm 1,00 miles from home for the next 2 weeks so have time to work > through it. > The laptop in question is an odd one with non-standard drive so using > the drive on another machine is not an option. On many laptops the allegedly proprietary interfaces to the drives are really in the form of a very small adapter on the pins, to transform a 2.5" style IDE pinout (in older boxes, maybe a 3.5" IDE) to match the inner port (which really -is- proprietary) For instance that was true of my Sager NP3600. It doesn't means it's not a PITA tho, or that you necessarily want to take a system apart when you might not have to. > I'm thinking of simply restarting from scratch with the floppies but not > using dselect, which seems to be a large part of your suggestion. > > Thanks, > Tim That will probably work. * Heather Stern * star@ many places * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Heather wrote: > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > > > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > > > something to do with the drive geometry. > > > > Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... > > > > Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can > > run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really > > choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a > > time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) > > Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't > > automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for > > /var/cache... > > I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... > in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard > drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. > > You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the > Linuxcare > bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, updated kernel > though) and configures the bootup. > > However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. > If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with > that :) > Forget using the installer. > mount the drive temporarily on another system. > format a small swap, the rest one-big-slash. (you did) > don't forget a hibernate volume if you need it! > (In our case, this is why we are so cramped.) > drop in the base tarball. > drop in a kernel package of your choice. plus modules. > delete modules you expect to not need, if it's > not a custom build. > perform steps the installer would have done to make it bootable > create an /etc/fstab which mounts /tmp as a ramdisk. > set /etc/hostname, create /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1 localhost > if you don't things will complain a lot. > "missing neighbor table" -> you have to setup the > localhost interface! > mv /sbin/uncofigured.sh to somewhere else > doctor /etc/syslog.conf so that all fluff is logged > to VCs only. critical stuff still hits disk. > I didn't, but you could, have it log to ramdisk. > anyways this is crucial otherwise bootup babble > will nail your free space. > create an /etc/lilo.conf correct for the environment > it will become. Do Not Yet run LILO! > umount it and install it in the correct system. > boot a rescue disk of some sort; tomsrtbt or linuxcare BBC > are my preference. > chroot /dev/hda1 or whatever your / is. > /sbin/lilo > adjust /etc/rcN.d sequence so it only boots things you really > want. if you stay with default /etc/inittab, it's > enough to fixup /etc/rcS.d (should be ok) and > /etc/rc2.d > exit chroot and umount > > At this point anyone is welcome to tell me what else the installer normally > does for us, that I've skipped and which might affect something. > > boot the machine "normally" > check your /etc/apt/sources.list (tempoarily goto woody) > apt-get update > apt-get install console-apt > this offers the ability to Hold and Purge things such as > dselect does but Muuuch nicer interface. huge stacks of > good things use curses so the extra library is not bad. > (switch sources.list back to your own preference if not woody) > pick a text editor, Purge all the others. > I don't know whose drugs thought ae was best default. > vim + vim-rt was my pick though I had to install them. > I got rid of tiny-elvis, ae, there are some others in base. > if you won't do mail switch your MTA to Masqmail. because of its > focus it's much smaller than the others, and cron inists > on an MTA for its scripts, but since you need it to > keep a tight leash on diskspace you can't toast it. *sigh* > in other words, install Masqmail, then purge exim, then > tweak the cron setup so it doesn't -need- mail. > > equivs can be used to defeat this and even get rid of the MTA? I haven't > tried it. > > Purge all other base packages you don't want. If console-apt won
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Heather wrote: > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > > > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > > > something to do with the drive geometry. > > > > Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... > > > > Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can > > run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really > > choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a > > time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) > > Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't > > automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... > > I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... > in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard > drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. > > You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the Linuxcare > bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, updated kernel > though) and configures the bootup. > > However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. > If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with > that :) > Forget using the installer. > mount the drive temporarily on another system. > format a small swap, the rest one-big-slash. (you did) > don't forget a hibernate volume if you need it! > (In our case, this is why we are so cramped.) > drop in the base tarball. > drop in a kernel package of your choice. plus modules. > delete modules you expect to not need, if it's > not a custom build. > perform steps the installer would have done to make it bootable > create an /etc/fstab which mounts /tmp as a ramdisk. > set /etc/hostname, create /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1 localhost > if you don't things will complain a lot. > "missing neighbor table" -> you have to setup the > localhost interface! > mv /sbin/uncofigured.sh to somewhere else > doctor /etc/syslog.conf so that all fluff is logged > to VCs only. critical stuff still hits disk. > I didn't, but you could, have it log to ramdisk. > anyways this is crucial otherwise bootup babble > will nail your free space. > create an /etc/lilo.conf correct for the environment > it will become. Do Not Yet run LILO! > umount it and install it in the correct system. > boot a rescue disk of some sort; tomsrtbt or linuxcare BBC > are my preference. > chroot /dev/hda1 or whatever your / is. > /sbin/lilo > adjust /etc/rcN.d sequence so it only boots things you really > want. if you stay with default /etc/inittab, it's > enough to fixup /etc/rcS.d (should be ok) and /etc/rc2.d > exit chroot and umount > > At this point anyone is welcome to tell me what else the installer normally > does for us, that I've skipped and which might affect something. > > boot the machine "normally" > check your /etc/apt/sources.list (tempoarily goto woody) > apt-get update > apt-get install console-apt > this offers the ability to Hold and Purge things such as > dselect does but Muuuch nicer interface. huge stacks of > good things use curses so the extra library is not bad. > (switch sources.list back to your own preference if not woody) > pick a text editor, Purge all the others. > I don't know whose drugs thought ae was best default. > vim + vim-rt was my pick though I had to install them. > I got rid of tiny-elvis, ae, there are some others in base. > if you won't do mail switch your MTA to Masqmail. because of its > focus it's much smaller than the others, and cron inists > on an MTA for its scripts, but since you need it to > keep a tight leash on diskspace you can't toast it. *sigh* > in other words, install Masqmail, then purge exim, then > tweak the cron setup so it doesn't -need- mail. > > equivs can be used to defeat this and even get rid of the MTA? I haven't > tried it. > > Purge all other base packages you don't want. If console-apt won't let >
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
> Tim wrote: > > > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > > something to do with the drive geometry. > > Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... > > Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can > run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really > choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a > time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) > Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't > automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the Linuxcare bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, updated kernel though) and configures the bootup. However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with that :) Forget using the installer. mount the drive temporarily on another system. format a small swap, the rest one-big-slash. (you did) don't forget a hibernate volume if you need it! (In our case, this is why we are so cramped.) drop in the base tarball. drop in a kernel package of your choice. plus modules. delete modules you expect to not need, if it's not a custom build. perform steps the installer would have done to make it bootable create an /etc/fstab which mounts /tmp as a ramdisk. set /etc/hostname, create /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1 localhost if you don't things will complain a lot. "missing neighbor table" -> you have to setup the localhost interface! mv /sbin/uncofigured.sh to somewhere else doctor /etc/syslog.conf so that all fluff is logged to VCs only. critical stuff still hits disk. I didn't, but you could, have it log to ramdisk. anyways this is crucial otherwise bootup babble will nail your free space. create an /etc/lilo.conf correct for the environment it will become. Do Not Yet run LILO! umount it and install it in the correct system. boot a rescue disk of some sort; tomsrtbt or linuxcare BBC are my preference. chroot /dev/hda1 or whatever your / is. /sbin/lilo adjust /etc/rcN.d sequence so it only boots things you really want. if you stay with default /etc/inittab, it's enough to fixup /etc/rcS.d (should be ok) and /etc/rc2.d exit chroot and umount At this point anyone is welcome to tell me what else the installer normally does for us, that I've skipped and which might affect something. boot the machine "normally" check your /etc/apt/sources.list (tempoarily goto woody) apt-get update apt-get install console-apt this offers the ability to Hold and Purge things such as dselect does but Muuuch nicer interface. huge stacks of good things use curses so the extra library is not bad. (switch sources.list back to your own preference if not woody) pick a text editor, Purge all the others. I don't know whose drugs thought ae was best default. vim + vim-rt was my pick though I had to install them. I got rid of tiny-elvis, ae, there are some others in base. if you won't do mail switch your MTA to Masqmail. because of its focus it's much smaller than the others, and cron inists on an MTA for its scripts, but since you need it to keep a tight leash on diskspace you can't toast it. *sigh* in other words, install Masqmail, then purge exim, then tweak the cron setup so it doesn't -need- mail. equivs can be used to defeat this and even get rid of the MTA? I haven't tried it. Purge all other base packages you don't want. If console-apt won't let let you, you can exit and use apt-get remove to see what its complaint is -- maybe get rid of 3 things at once. It may seem huge bu
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
> Tim wrote: > > > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > > i.e. not have mounted? > > > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > > something to do with the drive geometry. > > Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... > > Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can > run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really > choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a > time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) > Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't > automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... I recently had a need to do the same thing (install in almost no space)... in my case, because a friend is using a FlashDisk instead of a standard hard drive so to have lots less power consumption for his libretto. You *could* install minimum only by using the "debinst" option of the Linuxcare bootable business card. It drops in only base for slink (well, updated kernel though) and configures the bootup. However, we got a fairly usable day-to-day config by the following means. If anyone wants to turn into a mini-HOWTO or add it to one, I'm cool with that :) Forget using the installer. mount the drive temporarily on another system. format a small swap, the rest one-big-slash. (you did) don't forget a hibernate volume if you need it! (In our case, this is why we are so cramped.) drop in the base tarball. drop in a kernel package of your choice. plus modules. delete modules you expect to not need, if it's not a custom build. perform steps the installer would have done to make it bootable create an /etc/fstab which mounts /tmp as a ramdisk. set /etc/hostname, create /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1 localhost if you don't things will complain a lot. "missing neighbor table" -> you have to setup the localhost interface! mv /sbin/uncofigured.sh to somewhere else doctor /etc/syslog.conf so that all fluff is logged to VCs only. critical stuff still hits disk. I didn't, but you could, have it log to ramdisk. anyways this is crucial otherwise bootup babble will nail your free space. create an /etc/lilo.conf correct for the environment it will become. Do Not Yet run LILO! umount it and install it in the correct system. boot a rescue disk of some sort; tomsrtbt or linuxcare BBC are my preference. chroot /dev/hda1 or whatever your / is. /sbin/lilo adjust /etc/rcN.d sequence so it only boots things you really want. if you stay with default /etc/inittab, it's enough to fixup /etc/rcS.d (should be ok) and /etc/rc2.d exit chroot and umount At this point anyone is welcome to tell me what else the installer normally does for us, that I've skipped and which might affect something. boot the machine "normally" check your /etc/apt/sources.list (tempoarily goto woody) apt-get update apt-get install console-apt this offers the ability to Hold and Purge things such as dselect does but Muuuch nicer interface. huge stacks of good things use curses so the extra library is not bad. (switch sources.list back to your own preference if not woody) pick a text editor, Purge all the others. I don't know whose drugs thought ae was best default. vim + vim-rt was my pick though I had to install them. I got rid of tiny-elvis, ae, there are some others in base. if you won't do mail switch your MTA to Masqmail. because of its focus it's much smaller than the others, and cron inists on an MTA for its scripts, but since you need it to keep a tight leash on diskspace you can't toast it. *sigh* in other words, install Masqmail, then purge exim, then tweak the cron setup so it doesn't -need- mail. equivs can be used to defeat this and even get rid of the MTA? I haven't tried it. Purge all other base packages you don't want. If console-apt won't let let you, you can exit and use apt-get remove to see what its complaint is -- maybe get rid of 3 things at once. It may seem huge b
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim wrote: > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > i.e. not have mounted? > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > something to do with the drive geometry. Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... > It is a Seagate drive which RH > 5.2 refused to recognise. I used a Win95/Partition Magic Rescue disk to > set ip up as ext2 but gave up with RH. I had Debian 2.1 installed but > then decided to use 2.2 as I was planning on using ipchains and > masquerading. But then again, if you only want this to be a router/firewall, you don't really need much space. > > > I used a 16MB swap file. > > This seems appropriate. > > > > > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > > > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > > > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > > > essentials. > > > > Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a Debian package in >non-free. > > Yes that is what I was refering to but the machine is far too slow to > use on Seti. Why do you think that? Doesn't every compute cycle they get count towards proving there's nobody else out in those stars and planets? > > > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > > > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > > > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > > > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > > > future. > > > > Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only > > in there? > > > Yes. I deleted How-Tos etc as I have them on my other machine and on CD. > I remember deciding that I could do without locales, it was over 10MB. You can then use NFS to export them from your larger-capacity machines to your firewall machine, if you would like to have access to those docs & locale stuff. > > Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I > > wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. > > I am not familiar with cruft and it does not seem to exist on the > machine. A package on Debian, available through dselect. Just use '/' to search for it. > Before doing the update there was 8.5MB free. On completion 3.8MB. I had > decided that I would use dpkg to try and remove the packages that > deslect would not. It went backwards to the point where there was only > 400kB free. Since then I have got it down to 1038kB 99% by removing > wvdial and pppconfig (it's on a LAN). > > I am not sure what the status of dselect is because, in the original > install, it ran out of space. I'm suspecting that it ran out of space on a tight HD because it was trying to install too many packages at once. When I do an install, I choose the "Advanced" install, to use dselect, then I "hold" everything, and choose a few at a time. I update the same way. > dselect refuses to remove the packages I > decided I could do without. Was this because of dependencies? What error report does it give? > The machine has been "up" for over 62 days and I am reluctant to > re-install but that would seem to be the simplest solution. > > > This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. > > > The problem is knowing what to add/edit. Back in my DOS days it seemed > quite simple. > > Thanks for the help. I don't think I've been helpful yet... but "Hey! Anytime!" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed."
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim wrote: > > Bolan Meek wrote: > > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > > i.e. not have mounted? > > I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably > something to do with the drive geometry. Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a time, remembering to "hold" (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... > It is a Seagate drive which RH > 5.2 refused to recognise. I used a Win95/Partition Magic Rescue disk to > set ip up as ext2 but gave up with RH. I had Debian 2.1 installed but > then decided to use 2.2 as I was planning on using ipchains and > masquerading. But then again, if you only want this to be a router/firewall, you don't really need much space. > > > I used a 16MB swap file. > > This seems appropriate. > > > > > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > > > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > > > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > > > essentials. > > > > Do you mean SETI@home? There is a Debian package in >non-free. > > Yes that is what I was refering to but the machine is far too slow to > use on Seti. Why do you think that? Doesn't every compute cycle they get count towards proving there's nobody else out in those stars and planets? > > > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > > > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > > > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > > > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > > > future. > > > > Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only > > in there? > > > Yes. I deleted How-Tos etc as I have them on my other machine and on CD. > I remember deciding that I could do without locales, it was over 10MB. You can then use NFS to export them from your larger-capacity machines to your firewall machine, if you would like to have access to those docs & locale stuff. > > Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I > > wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. > > I am not familiar with cruft and it does not seem to exist on the > machine. A package on Debian, available through dselect. Just use '/' to search for it. > Before doing the update there was 8.5MB free. On completion 3.8MB. I had > decided that I would use dpkg to try and remove the packages that > deslect would not. It went backwards to the point where there was only > 400kB free. Since then I have got it down to 1038kB 99% by removing > wvdial and pppconfig (it's on a LAN). > > I am not sure what the status of dselect is because, in the original > install, it ran out of space. I'm suspecting that it ran out of space on a tight HD because it was trying to install too many packages at once. When I do an install, I choose the "Advanced" install, to use dselect, then I "hold" everything, and choose a few at a time. I update the same way. > dselect refuses to remove the packages I > decided I could do without. Was this because of dependencies? What error report does it give? > The machine has been "up" for over 62 days and I am reluctant to > re-install but that would seem to be the simplest solution. > > > This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. > > > The problem is knowing what to add/edit. Back in my DOS days it seemed > quite simple. > > Thanks for the help. I don't think I've been helpful yet... but "Hey! Anytime!" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Bolan Meek wrote: > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > i.e. not have mounted? I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably something to do with the drive geometry. It is a Seagate drive which RH 5.2 refused to recognise. I used a Win95/Partition Magic Rescue disk to set ip up as ext2 but gave up with RH. I had Debian 2.1 installed but then decided to use 2.2 as I was planning on using ipchains and masquerading. > > > I used a 16MB swap file. > > This seems appropriate. > > > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > > essentials. > > Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a Debian package in >non-free. Yes that is what I was refering to but the machine is far too slow to use on Seti. > > > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > > future. > > Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only > in there? > Yes. I deleted How-Tos etc as I have them on my other machine and on CD. I remember deciding that I could do without locales, it was over 10MB. > Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I > wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. I am not familiar with cruft and it does not seem to exist on the machine. Before doing the update there was 8.5MB free. On completion 3.8MB. I had decided that I would use dpkg to try and remove the packages that deslect would not. It went backwards to the point where there was only 400kB free. Since then I have got it down to 1038kB 99% by removing wvdial and pppconfig (it's on a LAN). I am not sure what the status of dselect is because, in the original install, it ran out of space. dselect refuses to remove the packages I decided I could do without. The machine has been "up" for over 62 days and I am reluctant to re-install but that would seem to be the simplest solution. > This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. > The problem is knowing what to add/edit. Back in my DOS days it seemed quite simple. Thanks for the help. Tim > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan > RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html > RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed." > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Bolan Meek wrote: > What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? > If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, > i.e. not have mounted? I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably something to do with the drive geometry. It is a Seagate drive which RH 5.2 refused to recognise. I used a Win95/Partition Magic Rescue disk to set ip up as ext2 but gave up with RH. I had Debian 2.1 installed but then decided to use 2.2 as I was planning on using ipchains and masquerading. > > > I used a 16MB swap file. > > This seems appropriate. > > > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > > essentials. > > Do you mean SETI@home? There is a Debian package in >non-free. Yes that is what I was refering to but the machine is far too slow to use on Seti. > > > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > > future. > > Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only > in there? > Yes. I deleted How-Tos etc as I have them on my other machine and on CD. I remember deciding that I could do without locales, it was over 10MB. > Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I > wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. I am not familiar with cruft and it does not seem to exist on the machine. Before doing the update there was 8.5MB free. On completion 3.8MB. I had decided that I would use dpkg to try and remove the packages that deslect would not. It went backwards to the point where there was only 400kB free. Since then I have got it down to 1038kB 99% by removing wvdial and pppconfig (it's on a LAN). I am not sure what the status of dselect is because, in the original install, it ran out of space. dselect refuses to remove the packages I decided I could do without. The machine has been "up" for over 62 days and I am reluctant to re-install but that would seem to be the simplest solution. > This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. > The problem is knowing what to add/edit. Back in my DOS days it seemed quite simple. Thanks for the help. Tim > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan > RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html > RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed." > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim Wood wrote: > > Hi, > I managed to do a floppy/ftp install of Potato on an old 4086DX-33 > laptop (8MB RAM 120MB HDD) but ran out of disk space. What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, i.e. not have mounted? > I used a 16MB swap file. This seems appropriate. > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > essentials. Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a Debian package in non-free. > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > future. Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only in there? > Is there anyway to update the database to reflect what is actually > there? > I'm afraid this happened a few months ago and I don't remember exactly > which files I took out. I have just completed an apt-get update/upgrade > so I presume that the system is in reasonable shape. Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. > As you will probably guess my Linux exposure is limited. However I'm > quite capable of editing any files. This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed."
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim Wood wrote: > > Hi, > I managed to do a floppy/ftp install of Potato on an old 4086DX-33 > laptop (8MB RAM 120MB HDD) but ran out of disk space. What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, i.e. not have mounted? > I used a 16MB swap file. This seems appropriate. > At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but > my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE > desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non > essentials. Do you mean SETI@home? There is a Debian package in non-free. > It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. > I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got > it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I > could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the > future. Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only in there? > Is there anyway to update the database to reflect what is actually > there? > I'm afraid this happened a few months ago and I don't remember exactly > which files I took out. I have just completed an apt-get update/upgrade > so I presume that the system is in reasonable shape. Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. > As you will probably guess my Linux exposure is limited. However I'm > quite capable of editing any files. This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: "Resistance is futile; you shall be freed." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
