Re: How many of you?

2003-05-06 Thread MovI
I'll try to explain what a did to get sound working on my presario.

OSS, It works with kernel 2.4.20 and later

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX=y
CONFIG_MIDI_VIA82CXXX=y
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=y

There is a patch from Santiago Nullo for kernel 2.4.18
I send it attached.


ALSA. I use alsa-source_0.9+0beta12-3  (Debian Woody) patching the file ac97.c
I send attached tha patch i made. It is based on the patch from Santiago Nullo 
for kernel 2.4.18.
Replace the file 
/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c with the file
attached and compile them with:

./configure --with-cards=via82xx
make

then edit the /etc/modules.conf and add:


alias char-major-116 snd
options snd cards_limit=1
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-2 snd-seq-midi
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss


I suppose sound will work with later versions of alsa.
If you have problems write me and i'll try to help you.


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diff -u --new-file --recursive linux-2.4.18/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.c 
linux/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.c
--- linux-2.4.18/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.c Mon Nov 12 15:02:54 2001
+++ linux/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.cFri Apr  5 03:12:56 2002
@@ -65,6 +65,7 @@
 static int sigmatel_9708_init(struct ac97_codec *codec);
 static int sigmatel_9721_init(struct ac97_codec *codec);
 static int sigmatel_9744_init(struct ac97_codec *codec);
+static int ad1886_init(struct ac97_codec *codec);
 static int eapd_control(struct ac97_codec *codec, int);
 static int crystal_digital_control(struct ac97_codec *codec, int mode);
 
@@ -94,6 +95,7 @@
 static struct ac97_ops sigmatel_9721_ops = { sigmatel_9721_init, NULL, NULL };
 static struct ac97_ops sigmatel_9744_ops = { sigmatel_9744_init, NULL, NULL };
 static struct ac97_ops crystal_digital_ops = { NULL, eapd_control, 
crystal_digital_control };
+static struct ac97_ops ad1886_ops = { ad1886_init, eapd_control, NULL };
 
 /* sorted by vendor/device id */
 static const struct {
@@ -106,6 +108,7 @@
{0x41445348, "Analog Devices AD1881A",  &null_ops},
{0x41445360, "Analog Devices AD1885",   &default_ops},
{0x41445460, "Analog Devices AD1885",   &default_ops},
+   {0x41445361, "Analog Devices AD1886",   &ad1886_ops},
{0x414B4D00, "Asahi Kasei AK4540",  &null_ops},
{0x414B4D01, "Asahi Kasei AK4542",  &null_ops},
{0x414B4D02, "Asahi Kasei AK4543",  &null_ops},
@@ -869,6 +872,26 @@
codec->codec_write(codec, 0x2C, 0X);
return 0;
 }
+
+
+
+/* 
+ * Presario700 workaround 
+ * for Jack Sense/SPDIF Register misetting causing
+ * no audible output
+ * by Santiago Nullo 04/05/2002
+ */
+
+#define AC97_AD1886_JACK_SENSE 0x72
+
+static int ad1886_init(struct ac97_codec * codec)
+{
+   /* from AD1886 Specs */
+   codec->codec_write(codec, AC97_AD1886_JACK_SENSE, 0x0010);
+   return 0;
+}
+
+
/*
 *  Copyright (c) by Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 *  Universal interface for Audio Codec '97
 *
 *  For more details look to AC '97 component specification revision 2.2
 *  by Intel Corporation (http://developer.intel.com).
 *
 *
 *   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
 *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
 *   the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
 *   (at your option) any later version.
 *
 *   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
 *   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 *   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
 *   GNU General Public License for more details.
 *
 *   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 *   along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
 *   Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307 USA
 *
 */

#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

MODULE_AUTHOR("Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>");
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Universal interface for Audio Codec '97");
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");

static int enable_loopback = 0;

MODULE_PARM(enable_loopback, "i");
MODULE_PARM_DESC(enable_loopback, "Enable AC97 ADC/DAC Loopback Control");
MODULE_PARM_SYNTAX(enable_loopback, SNDRV_BOOLEAN_FALSE_DESC);

#define chip_t ac97_t

/*

 */

static void snd_ac97_proc_init(snd_card_t * card, ac97_t * ac97);
static void snd_ac97_proc_done(ac97_t * ac97);

static int patch_wolfson(ac97_t * ac97);


Re: How many of you?

2003-05-06 Thread Bernhard Kleine
I have installed woody on a Compaq Armada 1750. Very smooth, everything 
supported but the sound, parallel to win98, which was present on the 
machine when bought secondhand. the bios/setup/F10 partition is only 
avalaible via windows. I bought a Intel Etherexpress100pro PCMCIA card 
which is nicely supported.
I did not have the time to fully install (in parallel) dial-in 
networking, the card by itself is supported. Some configuration missing.


Bernhard



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-05 Thread Derek Broughton
> Craig Genner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> > Original poster here.
> > 
> > I appear to have got the wrong impression from this list.  Most people who 
> > replied don't have any problems installing on a laptop.
> > 

Stands to reason, doesn't it.  Mostly we just post about our problems :-(



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-05 Thread Jan Braun
Hi Craig,

Craig Genner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
>   Original poster here.
> 
> I appear to have got the wrong impression from this list.  Most people who 
> replied don't have any problems installing on a laptop.
> 

Yes.  Wonderfull, isn't it?  I didn't have problems in installing
Debian 2.2 (with updating to 3.0) on an i386 Lifetec (first model sold
by Aldi in Germany).  I neither had any problems in installing Debian
Woody and upgrading to Sarge on a ppc Powerbook.  (In fact, I used to
have PPCLinux on it, first, but had lots of problems with sound,
Powercontrol, ..., but with Debian, anything hardware-related worked
from the beginning.)

> The big sticking points seem to be APM/ACPI and (win)modems.  I'm not going 
> to 

Thats right. I installed Debian Woody on an Acer Travelmate 212 TX.
Installation went well, but I still have problems in using all
functionallity like ACPI and the internal modem :-(  I would not
recommend those laptop.

Bye

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-05 Thread Matej Cepl
MovI wrote:
> I've installed Debian Woody on my Compaq Presario 706 and it works fine.
> I have XFree, sound (OSS and ALSA), ACPI, winmodem working without 
> problems.

You mean, that you got working ALSA just from Debian/woody 
packages?  Could you please elaborate a little bit on how did you 
do it? After fighting with the mess of incompatible packages 
(alsa-base 0.9+0beta12-3 v. alsa-source 0.5.12a-2), I gave up and 
stick with kernel modules (which fortunately works with my VIA 
AC97 chip on Compaq Presario 1200).

   Have a nice day,
   
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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-05 Thread MovI
I've installed Debian Woody on my Compaq Presario 706 and it works fine.
I have XFree, sound (OSS and ALSA), ACPI, winmodem working without 
problems.

El Fri, 02 de May de 2003, a las 13:35, Craig Genner comentaba:
:> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
:> 
:> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
:> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
:> 
:> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about 
it 
:> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
:> 
:> Craig
:> 
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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-04 Thread Craig Genner
Hello,
Original poster here.

I appear to have got the wrong impression from this list.  Most people who 
replied don't have any problems installing on a laptop.

The big sticking points seem to be APM/ACPI and (win)modems.  I'm not going to 
say any thing about (win)modems but the APM/ACPI, in most cases, is a buggy 
BIOS or some other stupid thing.

Well it's great that most poeple can just install and it works.

Keep up the good work all the developers and people who provide support in 
their spare time at no cost.

Thanks

Craig

On Sunday 04 May 2003 12:46 pm, Andreas Gredler wrote:
> On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> > Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> >
> > How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> > configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> >
> > I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking
> > about it just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
>
> I've installed Debian testing/unstable on my C-Series Lifebook (Fujitsu
> Siemens). Only problem was with ALSA sound the first time. Seemed to be
> a package bug. When I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.20 and ALSA too it
> worked without any problems this time.
>
> greets Andreas "Jimmy" Gredler



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-04 Thread Andreas Gredler
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.

I've installed Debian testing/unstable on my C-Series Lifebook (Fujitsu
Siemens). Only problem was with ALSA sound the first time. Seemed to be
a package bug. When I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.20 and ALSA too it
worked without any problems this time.

greets Andreas "Jimmy" Gredler



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Craig Genner wrote:
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking
> about it just working so that you can get the work done with no
> fuss.

Compaq 1621, 233MHz K-6, 32 MB RAM, Neomagic graphics.  No trouble at
all.  (Except it has a bad APM BIOS.  I modified apmd to read the
broken data so that it would print data correctly.  But considering I
used it that way for a long time before I noticed anything amiss I
still consider it painless.)  But I made sure it before I purchased it
that there had been good reports from others on the net about it.

Bob


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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-03 Thread Eduard Nabbel

Craig Genner wrote:

Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.

How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.


I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.


took me about two or three hours.
but if you like to have special things working like winmodem, sound, 
bluetooth, wlan, vmware, suspend-to-whatever - you may spend pretty much 
time depending on your hardware.


Greetings, EN



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Karl-Heinz Eischer
Hi Craig,

On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.

 I got Debian working on Armada 7792DMT, 7400 and E500. all of them
worked nearly out of the box (with XFree 3.3 you had to configure a
little bit more than now). Only suspend to disk wont work with the E500,
but it doesn't work with Windows either, so not Debian fault (384 MB
RAM are to much for the BIOS I supose, maybe a Problem with APM). Even
the winmodem works fine, including faxing.

KH

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- Craig Genner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Reading this
list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
> 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> 
> Craig
> 

I had great experiences with both Red Hat and Debian.  Both installed quite
easily.  The only "extra" config I "had" to do was to track down and install
the right modem drivers (Lucent winmodem), but that can hardly be blamed on the
individual Linux distros, as it includes proprietary binary-olnly code.  The
only other problem I had was getting the printer working in Debian (over the
network).  Other than that, everything worked well.

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Al Stone
When the hardware is not supported, this can get strange.  I've
done HP Omnibook 6000s and 500s, with the only real problems
being unsupported winmodes.  Omnibook 510s work okay now, but
used to have problems with older versions of XFree86 -- and
still have the winmodem problem.  I've installed (or helped
install) Debian (woody, testing and sid) on a couple hundred
of these machines.

For the machines with *fully* supported hardware, stuff seems
to work fine with Debian.  I had to provide info to debconf,
but that's to be exected.  I've installed Debian woody, testing
and sid on Compaq Evo n400c's, n600c's, and n410c's.  The last
time I counted, it was somewhere around 20-30 machines.

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 06:35, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Andy
On Friday 02 May 2003 06:53 am, matt zagrabelny wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 07:35, Craig Genner wrote:
> > Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> >
> > How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> > configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> >
> > I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking
> > about it just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> >
> > Craig
>
> count me in too, thinkpad t21. still tweaking things, but sound works,
> xfree 4.3 installed. very usable system, easy install.

I did a Thinkpad A21e with no problems.  As long as one knows the exact
hardware, and the hardware is supported, there should be no major problems.

It took me a while to get the winmodem working and also my Intel Pro/2011 
wireless NIC.  I tried Redhat 8 and Redhat 9 but they were so slooow.
Debian rocks on my laptop.  Love it.

Andy



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Al Dykes

Knoppix (debian linux booted and run from a CD) is great for
evaluating a laptop for Linux compatibility. I bought
a laptop that ran 99% fine when booted with Knoppix
(X, USB mouse, PCMICA, wifi card and everything else.)
When I started to install debian on my own I found
out how much work was involved to get to same functionality.
A real PITA.

A friend showed me how to install debian from the Knoppix CD.
It works great; Boot knoppix, run a root shell, and run
knx-hdinstall. (I partitioned  my disk first, with Partitin Magic.) 
Configure LILO as needed, reboot and do an apt-get upgrade to freshen up 
all the packages.


You wind up with a _very_ complete user machine.



Joao Pedro Clemente wrote:

Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.

How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.

I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.



I found that installing my laptop was no easier or harder than the
desktops I've setup before. If the hardware is well supported, I think
the installer will give you a nice system to work with. I actually have
done it the hard way, either on laptop or desktop systems: I've skipped
the installer as soon as I could and choose the packages I wanted by
"apt-gettting" them..

(Im my particular laptop install, I had to deal with xfree configuration,
but just because xfree from woody would not run my ati 7500. Going to
xfree from sarge worked it.)






Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Michael Perry
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 09:53:00AM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 07:35, Craig Genner wrote:
> > Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> > 
> > How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> > configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> > 
> > I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about 
> > it 
> > just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> count me in too, thinkpad t21. still tweaking things, but sound works,
> xfree 4.3 installed. very usable system, easy install.
> 
> -matt zagrabelny
> 
> 
I've done a few Linux installs on IBMs, Dells, etc.  My most recent
experience is with a Dell Inspiron I4100 which overall has been okay but
it has taken a bit of work to locate information like the highly
commented "shutoff fan thingee here in the list of late".  I finally
located that tidbit in groups.google.comr in a Dell support forum a few
months ago.

Previous to this I had a Dell Latitude Ls superlight which is very nice.
The one issue with that laptop was the sound card; which was shared with
the video card.  Oftentimes, the video would seize up if I tried to load
the sound after X started.

Regarding "fussing"...

I have come to the conclusion if you use laptops, you have to fuss.
There is no way to change things like sound or video which may require
less fussing.  But, in a way, fussing is learning and when you learn the
correct answers, it ceases becoming fussing.  When you can trade that
knowledge for other pieces of knowledge like on this list, fussing
changes to knowledge exchange :)

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Kevin McKinley
On 02 May 2003 09:53:00 -0500
matt zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 07:35, Craig Genner wrote:
> > Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> > How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> > configure more than one or two programs to get a working system. I'm not
> > talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
> > just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.

Inspiron 8000, I just needed to exclude one series of addresses from the
PCMCIA probe. In Woodyr1 I could even use X with my NVIDIA hardware (via the
XFree86 nv driver).

Kevin



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 07:35, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> 
> Craig
> 

count me in too, thinkpad t21. still tweaking things, but sound works,
xfree 4.3 installed. very usable system, easy install.

-matt zagrabelny



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Hugo Wau
Hi Craig,

it took me a bit more than two hours to set up a IPC/Archtec Powernote M
(AMD Athlon mobile Processor) with woody and get ist working. 
For setting up video and sound it took the experience of setting up
Debian on many different PCs.
This was all to make it ready for the work, it was purchased for.

It took an other hour to install a new kernel with ACPI support. 
This was all to reduce fan noise to an acceptable level.

FireWire, Infrared, WinModem and CD-Writer have actually not been
tested.

Cu Hugo


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RE: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Dustin Cook
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:35:41 +0100
>
>> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not
>> had to configure more than one or two programs to get a working
>> system.

"Not I," said the pig.

I'm still waiting on a response to my last query about getting my
Netgear FA511 to actually work under GNU/Linux on an IBM ThinkPad
i1400.

So, for now, I'm still running Windows 98 SE on the thing.

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 2 May 2003, Craig Genner wrote:

> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
>
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
>
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
>
> Craig

Most I've ever had trouble with on my Omnibook 5500 or 5700 is the sound
card.

The sound card is quirky, and it's a known issue with the chipset that is
in there.

The onboard IDE controller doesn't support DMA, even though it allows you
to set it for DMA.

My docking station works fine, the onboard scsi and pci/ide slots work
great.

X setup was fairly easy, just a matter of googling what someone else used
for modelines.

Granted, this 5500/5700 hybrid of mine is very old.  The laptop was made
in about 1998, and the screen was made in 1996(I'm using the screen off my
old 5500, and the bottom off a 5700.  Swapped the screen and video card
out)

Mike



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
>
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
>
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.

I found that installing my laptop was no easier or harder than the
desktops I've setup before. If the hardware is well supported, I think
the installer will give you a nice system to work with. I actually have
done it the hard way, either on laptop or desktop systems: I've skipped
the installer as soon as I could and choose the packages I wanted by
"apt-gettting" them..

(Im my particular laptop install, I had to deal with xfree configuration,
but just because xfree from woody would not run my ati 7500. Going to
xfree from sarge worked it.)



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Marco Menchise
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> 
> Craig
> 

My experience:

DELL Inspiron 8200 + woody

I installed woody (and X with NVidia drivers) in about three hours.
I'm able to use all hardware but:

1) full duplex sound
2) winmodem to send and receive fax
3) suspend to disk

Marco



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Mark Barnes
Three thinkpads; the first with RedHat 5.2 (a while ago!), and the
others with Debian.  No problems getting the basic system up and
running. X configuration has usually involved a visit to the
linux-laptop web page (www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop, I
think).  Network configuration took some head-scratching the first
time through.  Haven't bothered with sound (the first laptop didn't
have sound), or with internal modems.

On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Friday 02 May 2003 14:35, Craig Genner wrote:

> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.

I think you can count me in. I have an ASUS A1300. It's a bit tricky to 
install because of various issues with the framebuffer driver. I run SID and 
it works very good.

Anders

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread burningclown
> > How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> > configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> I have. Dell Latitude Cpi w/ Xircom Cardbus Ether.
> 

Not Debian, but ...

I just installed Slackware 9 on a Dell Inspiron 4100 & the only thing I had 
to futz much with was fetchmail.

I'm still futzing toward total happiness, but the system works.

Glenn Becker

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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 02 May 2003, Craig Genner wrote:

> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
> 
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it 
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.

I suppose that depends on where you draw the line between "how you like
it" and "get the work done" - I don't think there's a clean division.

I'm writing this on a Thinkpad 570 running Debian exclusively. When I
set it up, the only thing I had trouble with was Alsa, arguably not
realy needed for Getting Work Done. I've never tried to get the winmodem
working, as I've never had a need for it.

Setup of everything else went great.

I've spent a lot of time tweaking things, as this machine is a little
old and with only 128M of RAM, it took a while to get a work environment
that doesn't start swapping horribly. That's the machine's fault, not
Debian's. Also, I always end up playing with things, tweaking things,
and generally fiddling around, because that's just the way I am.

Anyway, just a datapoint.

-j



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Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Adam Garside
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 01:35:41PM +0100, Craig Genner wrote:
> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
> 
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to 
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
I have. Dell Latitude Cpi w/ Xircom Cardbus Ether.

Stock woody install. All I did was remove nvi, and install vim and less.

A.



Re: How many of you?

2003-05-02 Thread Andrew Perrin
Me, three separate laptops, no significant glitches!

ap

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On Fri, 2 May 2003, Craig Genner wrote:

> Reading this list with interest a thought occurs to me.
>
> How many of you have actually installed linux on a laptop and not had to
> configure more than one or two programs to get a working system.
>
> I'm not talking about configuring it to how you like it, I'm talking about it
> just working so that you can get the work done with no fuss.
>
> Craig
>
>
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