Re: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-10 Thread Alexei Khlebnikov
On Wed, 08 May 2002 21:39:51 -0700
"Justin News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i
> don't have a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer.
> I've installed linux before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but
> i'm lost as to how to install linux without CDs. I also have a network
> card in my laptop so is there a way to do a network installation? i've
> done some searching on the web but the instructions that i've found
> are rather vague.
> 
> If anyone can help me out i'd appreciate it. Also, if you need more 
> information about my computer and configuation i'll be more than happy
> to discuss it.

Linux-Laptop-HOWTO descibes many non-usual ways to install linux and
there is info about your case as well.


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Re: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-10 Thread Alexei Khlebnikov

On Wed, 08 May 2002 21:39:51 -0700
"Justin News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i
> don't have a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer.
> I've installed linux before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but
> i'm lost as to how to install linux without CDs. I also have a network
> card in my laptop so is there a way to do a network installation? i've
> done some searching on the web but the instructions that i've found
> are rather vague.
> 
> If anyone can help me out i'd appreciate it. Also, if you need more 
> information about my computer and configuation i'll be more than happy
> to discuss it.

Linux-Laptop-HOWTO descibes many non-usual ways to install linux and
there is info about your case as well.


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RE: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-09 Thread Kozikowski, Mark
Hello Allan,

I cannot profess to be a debian expert. I too have
installed linux on many machines, laptops and pcs.
But, I am just finishing up an install on an IBM
760XL. All I have left is to configure X. 

I can tell you what I found out.

Follow the basic network install info found on the debian site
or any of the great debian docs and mans.

First, my network card needed the latest version of 
pcmcia-cs. This is because my chipset required the 
axnet-cs module.
I chose to isntall Woody because I could get a compact
install with this module from debian.

I started with the Woody (testing) compact (4 disk) install.
The base install went quite well. My pcmcia card was 
successfully id'ed and configured, and I got access to the 
web.
I found that I didn't have to configure any modules over the
automatic ones provided by the base install.

Then, when reboot occured, I entered the next phase. This 
automatically started the 'base-config' app that completes
the installation. It proceeded through the basic time,
password and user setup and then proceeded back to the 
time setup. 
Infinate loop.
There is a problem in the Woody base-config. So I did this.
1 - switched terminals (alt-F2) while still running base-config
on primary (alt-F1) terminal, and logged in as root and removed
'base-config' (>dpkg -r base-config).
2 - downloaded base-config_1.33.18_all.deb from web onto floppy
on another machine, created a /root/debs dir and coppied the 
new base-config to this dir
3 - installed the new base-config (dpkg -i base-config_1.33.18_all.deb)
4 - rebooted the computer.
5 - at this point the new base-config starts running and I found
that I could continue the configuration.
6 - finally got to the package selection, chose what I wanted
and, Wammo!, apt was getting all the packages from 'stable'.
This caused all kinds of compatability problems.
7 - again, went to another terminal , logged in as root,
and modified the /etc/apt/sources.list file to include the
debian ... testing packages.
deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian testing main contrib

8 - from this terminal, I ran apt-get upgrade, and this caused
the apt-get to update the database from both the stable and 
testing sights.

9 - after the update, I switched back to the main terminal (alt-F1) 
and continued with the installation. Base-config now had all of the 
packages needed from Woody to complete the install. 

I think this is fairly accurate, although this took about 4 days
to get through for me.

As I said, I am now starting the X Configuration. Just have to find
out the parameters of the display and mouse.

Good luck

Mark


-Original Message-
From: Justin News [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop


Hi,

I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i don't have

a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer. I've installed linux

before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but i'm lost as to how to 
install linux without CDs. I also have a network card in my laptop so is 
there a way to do a network installation? i've done some searching on the 
web but the instructions that i've found are rather vague.

If anyone can help me out i'd appreciate it. Also, if you need more 
information about my computer and configuation i'll be more than happy to 
discuss it.

Thank you for any assistance.

-Allan



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Re: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-09 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On 2002.05.08 23:39 Justin News wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i 
>don't have a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer. 
>I've installed linux before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but 
>i'm lost as to how to install linux without CDs. I also have a 
>network card in my laptop so is there a way to do a network 
>installation? i've done some searching on the web but the 
>instructions that i've found are rather vague.

One option, if you have broadband access during the installation, is to 
download the floppy disks and install using them. I've installed on my 
laptop using them to install over the internet. Read the following for 
more specific instructions:



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Re: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-09 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi

You just need to download the bf2.4 disks :
rescue.bin
root.bin
and all the driver-*.bin

You can get them, for instance, there : 
ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/images-1.44/

If you've already installed a debian woody, you shouldn't be disappointed.
You just need to install the kernel and modules from the floppy disks, and you 
may be able to get network working at this moment.
Then, you can use network to install base system (but you have to know there's 
a loop bug in it, cf. 
http://wiki.debian.net/DebianWiki/DebianWiki/WoodyNetinstBaseconfigLoop) and 
all the packages.

On Wed, 08 May 2002 21:39:51 -0700
"Justin News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i don't have 
> a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer. I've installed linux 
> before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but i'm lost as to how to 
> install linux without CDs. I also have a network card in my laptop so is 
> there a way to do a network installation? i've done some searching on the 
> web but the instructions that i've found are rather vague.
> 
> If anyone can help me out i'd appreciate it. Also, if you need more 
> information about my computer and configuation i'll be more than happy to 
> discuss it.
> 
> Thank you for any assistance.
> 
> -Allan
> 
> 
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Re: Installing Debian Linux on my Laptop

2002-05-09 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 23:39 pm, Justin News wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to install linux on my IBM Thinkpad 560E. Unfortunately, i
> don't have a CD ROM and I'd appreciate any help someone can offer.
> I've installed linux before using CD ROMS and had no problems... but
> i'm lost as to how to install linux without CDs. I also have a
> network card in my laptop so is there a way to do a network
> installation? i've done some searching on the web but the
> instructions that i've found are rather vague.

I installed Debian on a Thinkpad 240 without a CD drive.  The drive was 
divided into two partitions.  I downloaded the necessary files for a 
minimal Debian installation and stored them on the second partition.  
When I was sure I had everything I needed to install the base system, 
including pcmcia drivers for my network card, I made a boot floppy and 
installed  a minimal Debian system in the first partition.   When I 
could boot into Debian I reformated the second partition.  I made a 
small swap partition and the rest ext2.  I moved /usr there, then 
installed more packages via ftp/http til I had the system I wanted.  It 
took a little planning, but it worked.  

There are some helpful files on the Debian website that describe what 
is needed for a minimal install.  I believe there is a file that 
describes in detail how to do what I did.  Good luck.

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