Re: Laptop recommendations
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:53:25PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > There's also, > > http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html For more providers of laptops, notebooks and PDAs with Linux pre-installed, see http://tuxmobil.org/reseller.html > > And if you need to overwrite Windows, > http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ Don't forget the TuxMobil Linux Laptop Survey http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html Werner -- |=| Werner Heuser = Berliner Str. 122 = D-13187 Berlin = Germany |=| T. 0049 - (0)30 - 349 53 86 |=| http://TuxMobil.orgUniX on Mobile Systems: HOWTOs,Software |*| This is no time for phony rhetoric -- Lou Reed
Re: Laptop recommendations
There's also, http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html And if you need to overwrite Windows, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ Emperor Linux seems to have passed into non-existence. On Sunday 06 June 2004 14:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > Thus spake Rolf Heckemann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > ... > > > In your situation, I would probably consider the Lindows Mobile > > PC from sub300.com (http://www.sub300.com/port.htm). > > Looks interesting. Does anyone on the list have experience with > these machines? -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history
Re: Laptop recommendations
Thus spake Rolf Heckemann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > In your situation, I would probably consider the Lindows Mobile PC > from sub300.com (http://www.sub300.com/port.htm). Looks interesting. Does anyone on the list have experience with these machines? -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:53:25PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > There's also, > > http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html For more providers of laptops, notebooks and PDAs with Linux pre-installed, see http://tuxmobil.org/reseller.html > > And if you need to overwrite Windows, > http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ Don't forget the TuxMobil Linux Laptop Survey http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html Werner -- |=| Werner Heuser = Berliner Str. 122 = D-13187 Berlin = Germany |=| T. 0049 - (0)30 - 349 53 86 |=| http://TuxMobil.orgUniX on Mobile Systems: HOWTOs,Software |*| This is no time for phony rhetoric -- Lou Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
There's also, http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html And if you need to overwrite Windows, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ Emperor Linux seems to have passed into non-existence. On Sunday 06 June 2004 14:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > Thus spake Rolf Heckemann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > ... > > > In your situation, I would probably consider the Lindows Mobile > > PC from sub300.com (http://www.sub300.com/port.htm). > > Looks interesting. Does anyone on the list have experience with > these machines? -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
Thus spake Rolf Heckemann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > In your situation, I would probably consider the Lindows Mobile PC > from sub300.com (http://www.sub300.com/port.htm). Looks interesting. Does anyone on the list have experience with these machines? -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
From: "Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael Nordmeyer wrote: > > > > Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it > > out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW > > combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. > > Apple hardware is solidly built. > > This system looks really great! and is a great vallue for money. But it > is out of reach of my pocket..:-( My maximum limit is $1200. My Dell Inspiron 2500 was a little over US$1000 with taxes for an 800MHz processor (I don't know iBooks, but I presume that's a 64bit cpu, so admittedly not a comparable processor) with 14.1" display. I didn't get the DVD, but it's kind of hard to see how that makes the iBook "inexpensive". It works great - it took some time before I managed to find an off-the-shelf kernel that worked, but it's running Woody with kernel-image-2.4.16-586. I still haven't figured out sound though, but that's mostly because I couldn't much care about it, derek
Re: Laptop recommendations
I just checked up Compaq Presario webpages. There is something called 700 series laptops, which comes with AMD Duron processors. They seem to be cheap.(around $1000) with S3 Savage graphics chip. They have not given details of the size of the display. Anyone having experience running Debian GNU/Linux on this machine? -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laptop recommendations
From: "Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael Nordmeyer wrote: > > > > Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it > > out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW > > combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. > > Apple hardware is solidly built. > > This system looks really great! and is a great vallue for money. But it > is out of reach of my pocket..:-( My maximum limit is $1200. My Dell Inspiron 2500 was a little over US$1000 with taxes for an 800MHz processor (I don't know iBooks, but I presume that's a 64bit cpu, so admittedly not a comparable processor) with 14.1" display. I didn't get the DVD, but it's kind of hard to see how that makes the iBook "inexpensive". It works great - it took some time before I managed to find an off-the-shelf kernel that worked, but it's running Woody with kernel-image-2.4.16-586. I still haven't figured out sound though, but that's mostly because I couldn't much care about it, derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
I just checked up Compaq Presario webpages. There is something called 700 series laptops, which comes with AMD Duron processors. They seem to be cheap.(around $1000) with S3 Savage graphics chip. They have not given details of the size of the display. Anyone having experience running Debian GNU/Linux on this machine? -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
Michael Nordmeyer wrote: > > Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it > out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW > combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. > Apple hardware is solidly built. This system looks really great! and is a great vallue for money. But it is out of reach of my pocket..:-( My maximum limit is $1200. > Apple is going to use more and more standard parts to reduce cost. I > don't know if Darwin, Apple's Open Source, provides also source code > for a whole hardware experience. I read somewhere that someone studied the Darwin source code of the sound driver for iBook2 and wrote a minimal driver for the linux kernel. Yes, the presence of Darwin is a great thing for Free Software, once can atleast study the source and understand the ststem better. -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 05:06, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) > > but iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous > > screens. > > Yes, I checked them up. The screen size is only 12.1", apart from Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. Apple hardware is solidly built. > that it looks really good for the price vs the performance you get. > But it doesn't have a floppy drive. Debian installation experiences > on the net shows that they sometimes don't boot off the CD... also You may want to check out http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html > sound doesn't work at this point. Apart from that it is a good > machine. But somehow I dislike Apple because they use a lot of > propreitary ASICs on their hardware and don't publish anything about > them, which is bad. Apple is going to use more and more standard parts to reduce cost. I don't know if Darwin, Apple's Open Source, provides also source code for a whole hardware experience. - Michael
Re: Laptop recommendations
Michael Nordmeyer wrote: > > Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it > out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW > combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. > Apple hardware is solidly built. This system looks really great! and is a great vallue for money. But it is out of reach of my pocket..:-( My maximum limit is $1200. > Apple is going to use more and more standard parts to reduce cost. I > don't know if Darwin, Apple's Open Source, provides also source code > for a whole hardware experience. I read somewhere that someone studied the Darwin source code of the sound driver for iBook2 and wrote a minimal driver for the linux kernel. Yes, the presence of Darwin is a great thing for Free Software, once can atleast study the source and understand the ststem better. -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 05:06, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) > > but iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous > > screens. > > Yes, I checked them up. The screen size is only 12.1", apart from Apple introduced a new iBook with 14.1" display yesterday. Check it out, it's on the apple site. But it's $1799 with 700Mhz and DVD/CDRW combo. Still quite inexpensive compared with Wintel consumer laptops. Apple hardware is solidly built. > that it looks really good for the price vs the performance you get. > But it doesn't have a floppy drive. Debian installation experiences > on the net shows that they sometimes don't boot off the CD... also You may want to check out http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html > sound doesn't work at this point. Apart from that it is a good > machine. But somehow I dislike Apple because they use a lot of > propreitary ASICs on their hardware and don't publish anything about > them, which is bad. Apple is going to use more and more standard parts to reduce cost. I don't know if Darwin, Apple's Open Source, provides also source code for a whole hardware experience. - Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
I was just checking out the new Dell Precision M40: 7.89 lbs. Pentium III 1.2 GHz processor-M with large 512KB L2 cache ISV certified 3D OpenGL accelerated workstation graphics NVidia Quadro2 Go 256-bit, 4X AGP video chipset 32MB DDR video memory POWERdraft, QuadroView, MAXtreme workstation applets 512MB memory 48GB ATA100 HDD 15.1" display Sounds pretty hot! jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User
Re: Laptop recommendations
Mark Brown wrote: > > Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) but > iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous screens. Yes, I checked them up. The screen size is only 12.1", apart from that it looks really good for the price vs the performance you get. But it doesn't have a floppy drive. Debian installation experiences on the net shows that they sometimes don't boot off the CD... also sound doesn't work at this point. Apart from that it is a good machine. But somehow I dislike Apple because they use a lot of propreitary ASICs on their hardware and don't publish anything about them, which is bad. -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laptop recommendations
I was just checking out the new Dell Precision M40: 7.89 lbs. Pentium III 1.2 GHz processor-M with large 512KB L2 cache ISV certified 3D OpenGL accelerated workstation graphics NVidia Quadro2 Go 256-bit, 4X AGP video chipset 32MB DDR video memory POWERdraft, QuadroView, MAXtreme workstation applets 512MB memory 48GB ATA100 HDD 15.1" display Sounds pretty hot! jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
Mark Brown wrote: > > Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) but > iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous screens. Yes, I checked them up. The screen size is only 12.1", apart from that it looks really good for the price vs the performance you get. But it doesn't have a floppy drive. Debian installation experiences on the net shows that they sometimes don't boot off the CD... also sound doesn't work at this point. Apart from that it is a good machine. But somehow I dislike Apple because they use a lot of propreitary ASICs on their hardware and don't publish anything about them, which is bad. -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) but iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous screens. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." pgpV3ESqHW6gB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
Quoting Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530: > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? > > -- > Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) > Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > I've been using a IBM Thinkpad T21 here with great luck. It has supported components and is speedy enough to play DVDs with its 8mb S3 Savage video card. I run debian unstable on it with a 2.4.17 kernel in both wired and wireless. You can find them at ubid I believe (or they were there at least) for under your cost point. BTW, my T21 has a 800mhz PIII, 256mb of memory, and a 20g ibm hard disk drive. Memory for the T21s is pretty cheap these days. I bought a 256mb memory module for under $75. -- Michael Perry | "Do or do not; there is no try" Master Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.lnxpowered.org
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:17:25PM +, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > I like Toshiba myself. Low cost and very reliable. There's also the > IBM ones. Good prices for these in the States. Compaq can be good > as well. You might run into problems with spares for any of these ? If you choose toshiba, be sure to see what video chipset your laptop has. Many of them have the Trident CyberBlade series which is not accelerated under XFree86 since Trident refused to give developers spec docs. -pete -- (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating pgpCmqZuHFOOQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:58:14PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Serge Rey wrote: > > > > are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before > > you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on > > I am planning to buy one after reaching US. Laptops are prohibitively > expensive in India. > > > thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year > > warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. > > I am a bit unfamiliar with the US stores etc. YOu mean to say, online > stores? or the normal stores? If online, could you please suggest some > stores? sure. ebay is an on-line bidding/auction site. http://www.ebay.com it is a good idea to read the entire add for an item before bidding. i've never had a problem in any auctions i've been involved with, but reading the entire add has alerted me to sometimes fine details (i.e., payment options, shipping costs and times, auction type) that can be important. if you have specific questions about ebay (i.e., non-debian-laptop) feel free to contact me off list and i'm happy to help. -- Sergio J. Rey http://typhoon.sdsu.edu/rey.html Q: "Have you lived in Europe all of your life, Jean?" A: "Not yet." - Jean Paelinck pgp7z1o8a3D2D.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Laptop recommendations
Hi, I would suggest a Toshiba. I own a Satelite 3000 series and after some hints and some rethinking I got Debian up and running on it perfectly. Most problems were caused by my problems and my strange ideas about Linux and Laptops. ; Official retail is $1600, but I have seen shops in the US selling it for as low as $1150. May this is an option. But I also have to admit that you want to run Woody or even better Sid on it, cause it is a quite new notebook and so it needs some special drivers... Otherwise pick one of the cheaper and more "conventional" Toshi notebooks.. Best regards, Oliver > -Original Message- > From: Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Laptop recommendations > > > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? > > -- > Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) > Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Laptop recommendations
Serge Rey wrote: > > are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before > you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on I am planning to buy one after reaching US. Laptops are prohibitively expensive in India. > thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year > warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. I am a bit unfamiliar with the US stores etc. YOu mean to say, online stores? or the normal stores? If online, could you please suggest some stores? -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. -- Sergio J. Rey http://typhoon.sdsu.edu/rey.html Why use Linux? We could give you a thousand reasons. - Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman pgp7uFINd3paM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
Hi > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good > laptop (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? I like Toshiba myself. Low cost and very reliable. There's also the IBM ones. Good prices for these in the States. Compaq can be good as well. You might run into problems with spares for any of these ? I could go on forever. For me it's whether you like or don't like the sticky out thing in the middle of the keyboard or do you prefer a touchpad for ease of use. You might want to have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Configuring your laptop is an issue that you should take seriously :) Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? Don't know about the pricing (Apple's store is currently off-line) but iBooks are rather nice with long batter life and gorgeous screens. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." msg06215/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
Quoting Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530: > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? > > -- > Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) > Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > I've been using a IBM Thinkpad T21 here with great luck. It has supported components and is speedy enough to play DVDs with its 8mb S3 Savage video card. I run debian unstable on it with a 2.4.17 kernel in both wired and wireless. You can find them at ubid I believe (or they were there at least) for under your cost point. BTW, my T21 has a 800mhz PIII, 256mb of memory, and a 20g ibm hard disk drive. Memory for the T21s is pretty cheap these days. I bought a 256mb memory module for under $75. -- Michael Perry | "Do or do not; there is no try" Master Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.lnxpowered.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:17:25PM +, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > I like Toshiba myself. Low cost and very reliable. There's also the > IBM ones. Good prices for these in the States. Compaq can be good > as well. You might run into problems with spares for any of these ? If you choose toshiba, be sure to see what video chipset your laptop has. Many of them have the Trident CyberBlade series which is not accelerated under XFree86 since Trident refused to give developers spec docs. -pete -- (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating msg06211/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:58:14PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Serge Rey wrote: > > > > are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before > > you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on > > I am planning to buy one after reaching US. Laptops are prohibitively > expensive in India. > > > thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year > > warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. > > I am a bit unfamiliar with the US stores etc. YOu mean to say, online > stores? or the normal stores? If online, could you please suggest some > stores? sure. ebay is an on-line bidding/auction site. http://www.ebay.com it is a good idea to read the entire add for an item before bidding. i've never had a problem in any auctions i've been involved with, but reading the entire add has alerted me to sometimes fine details (i.e., payment options, shipping costs and times, auction type) that can be important. if you have specific questions about ebay (i.e., non-debian-laptop) feel free to contact me off list and i'm happy to help. -- Sergio J. Rey http://typhoon.sdsu.edu/rey.html Q: "Have you lived in Europe all of your life, Jean?" A: "Not yet." - Jean Paelinck msg06210/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Laptop recommendations
Hi, I would suggest a Toshiba. I own a Satelite 3000 series and after some hints and some rethinking I got Debian up and running on it perfectly. Most problems were caused by my problems and my strange ideas about Linux and Laptops. ; Official retail is $1600, but I have seen shops in the US selling it for as low as $1150. May this is an option. But I also have to admit that you want to run Woody or even better Sid on it, cause it is a quite new notebook and so it needs some special drivers... Otherwise pick one of the cheaper and more "conventional" Toshi notebooks.. Best regards, Oliver > -Original Message- > From: Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Laptop recommendations > > > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? > > -- > Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) > Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
Serge Rey wrote: > > are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before > you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on I am planning to buy one after reaching US. Laptops are prohibitively expensive in India. > thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year > warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. I am a bit unfamiliar with the US stores etc. YOu mean to say, online stores? or the normal stores? If online, could you please suggest some stores? -- Ramakrishnan M (http://www.hackGNU.org/) Texas Instruments, India ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop recommendations
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:34:52PM +0530, Muthukrishnan, Ramakrishnan wrote: > Hi, > > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good laptop > (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? are you looking to buy while in the u.s., or while you be buying before you travel? if the former, you might want to look for good deals on thinkpads (like an x20 or x21). i picked up one there with a 3 year warranty for about $700 less than retail. runs debian like a champ. -- Sergio J. Rey http://typhoon.sdsu.edu/rey.html Why use Linux? We could give you a thousand reasons. - Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman msg06207/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop recommendations
Hi > I will be travelling US shortly, and would like to buy a good > laptop (under $1200). Could someone give a recomendation? I like Toshiba myself. Low cost and very reliable. There's also the IBM ones. Good prices for these in the States. Compaq can be good as well. You might run into problems with spares for any of these ? I could go on forever. For me it's whether you like or don't like the sticky out thing in the middle of the keyboard or do you prefer a touchpad for ease of use. You might want to have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Configuring your laptop is an issue that you should take seriously :) Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Recommendations
> Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it > was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap. > The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had > to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M. > The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it! If this > is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop. Also in the category of general recommendations, just mentally add 1.5 pounds to whatever they say the silly thing weighs. Otherwise you'll find that its carrying case and your power adapter and other toys you enjoy carrying with it weigh a lot more than you had in mind! My first laptop was a p60 which ran hot (see "fastest CPU for its time"). It also was quite heavy, which I decided wasn't too bad after a few months of carrying around the Computer Shopper Guide like it was the JCPenney xmas wish book or something. I didn't realize its power brick was heavy too. And if I wanted an extra battery, another brick! And, while it's possible it's a real pain to replace the keyboard. So if you can get your hands on the model you're considering, esp. if your hands are large... it's a good idea to try out a little typing on the beast before committing your hands to live with it. If you get a lightweight with external CD, consider just buying your own external CD bay, if it's USB driven - you can probably save a bunch; you could even get a CDRW instead. Just surf the iMac aisle comparing the optional drive to the iMac boxed products. Someone I know recently saved themselves almost $200 to get a faster drive. Now, in the category of debian recommendations... Sound is really popular but lots of our questions are folks trying to spin up sound the first time; with 3 ways to do it (but only one right per machine) it really is a pain. I've seen CS4281's appearing a lot lately and they use a "normal" kernel module so I would gravitate towards it, if shown a bunch of otherwise equivalent laptops. I've not enough experience with the recent video chips to be sure of any good ones to really shoot for, (e.g rocking fast X 4 support, etc.) but the ATI Mobility family should be a safe bet if you feel lost. * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: Laptop Recommendations
> Hi, > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are > people's recommendations? > > I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an > installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook > 800CT, I think with a 150 cpu. The Omnibook 800CT makes a very happy debian box! (Personal experience) * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
Re: Laptop Recommendations
> Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it > was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap. > The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had > to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M. > The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it! If this > is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop. Also in the category of general recommendations, just mentally add 1.5 pounds to whatever they say the silly thing weighs. Otherwise you'll find that its carrying case and your power adapter and other toys you enjoy carrying with it weigh a lot more than you had in mind! My first laptop was a p60 which ran hot (see "fastest CPU for its time"). It also was quite heavy, which I decided wasn't too bad after a few months of carrying around the Computer Shopper Guide like it was the JCPenney xmas wish book or something. I didn't realize its power brick was heavy too. And if I wanted an extra battery, another brick! And, while it's possible it's a real pain to replace the keyboard. So if you can get your hands on the model you're considering, esp. if your hands are large... it's a good idea to try out a little typing on the beast before committing your hands to live with it. If you get a lightweight with external CD, consider just buying your own external CD bay, if it's USB driven - you can probably save a bunch; you could even get a CDRW instead. Just surf the iMac aisle comparing the optional drive to the iMac boxed products. Someone I know recently saved themselves almost $200 to get a faster drive. Now, in the category of debian recommendations... Sound is really popular but lots of our questions are folks trying to spin up sound the first time; with 3 ways to do it (but only one right per machine) it really is a pain. I've seen CS4281's appearing a lot lately and they use a "normal" kernel module so I would gravitate towards it, if shown a bunch of otherwise equivalent laptops. I've not enough experience with the recent video chips to be sure of any good ones to really shoot for, (e.g rocking fast X 4 support, etc.) but the ATI Mobility family should be a safe bet if you feel lost. * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Recommendations
Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap. The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M. The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it! If this is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop. Thus spake Peter Cordes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What > > are > > people's recommendations? -- Todd V. Rovito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carpe Aptenodytes! "Seize the Penguins!"
Re: Laptop Recommendations
> Hi, > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are > people's recommendations? > > I've been looking at the Dell Latitude XPi P150 and P166. They have an > installed CD-ROM and floppy. I've also been looking at the HP Omnibook > 800CT, I think with a 150 cpu. The Omnibook 800CT makes a very happy debian box! (Personal experience) * Heather Stern * star@ many places... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Recommendations
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are > people's recommendations? Get something with enough RAM for what you want. Esp. older laptops sometimes use custom RAM that only works with that model, so upgrades are expensive. Try to get one with at lithium battery, since they're better. Nickel-metal-hydride (NiMH) batteries are ok. Don't get nickel-cadmium, since they don't hold as much charge, and suffer from the "memory effect", where they lose effective capacity if you don't discharge them all the way. (you can reverse this a bit, but it's not good.) In general, laptop upgrades cost a lot more than for desktop machines. Don't buy a really cheap laptop and plan to upgrade. (unless it was really, really cheap, and not too bad.) Hard drives are an exception. Laptop ones cost more, but they are compatible. Some laptops with slow-by-modern-standards processors have CPUs which were the fastest for their time, and use a lot of power. I've heard tales of P200MMX laptops that would run for half an hour on a full charge. If you're going to be near an outlet most of the time, you can get away with buying a power-hungry laptop, though. Another thing to watch for is that older laptops might not be PCI-based, in which case they probably won't take 32-bit (cardbus) PC cards, and you won't be able to tweak the hard drive performance with hdparm very well (probably). If this matters to you, then get a PCI laptop. (I think most pentium laptops would use PCI). -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE
Re: Laptop Recommendations
Just as a warning I started by purchasing a used cheap notebook, it was a IBM ThinkPad 760EL that I purchased from a used computer store cheap. The problem is I got addicted to the concept of portable computer and had to have a newer, faster, and better notebook so I now own a ThinkPad A20M. The ThinkPad A20M is great and I can not imagine life with out it! If this is something you are going to use alot you may want to purchase a new laptop. Thus spake Peter Cordes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are > > people's recommendations? -- Todd V. Rovito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carpe Aptenodytes! "Seize the Penguins!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Recommendations
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:44:03PM -, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in buying an old laptop and installing Debian on it. What are > people's recommendations? Get something with enough RAM for what you want. Esp. older laptops sometimes use custom RAM that only works with that model, so upgrades are expensive. Try to get one with at lithium battery, since they're better. Nickel-metal-hydride (NiMH) batteries are ok. Don't get nickel-cadmium, since they don't hold as much charge, and suffer from the "memory effect", where they lose effective capacity if you don't discharge them all the way. (you can reverse this a bit, but it's not good.) In general, laptop upgrades cost a lot more than for desktop machines. Don't buy a really cheap laptop and plan to upgrade. (unless it was really, really cheap, and not too bad.) Hard drives are an exception. Laptop ones cost more, but they are compatible. Some laptops with slow-by-modern-standards processors have CPUs which were the fastest for their time, and use a lot of power. I've heard tales of P200MMX laptops that would run for half an hour on a full charge. If you're going to be near an outlet most of the time, you can get away with buying a power-hungry laptop, though. Another thing to watch for is that older laptops might not be PCI-based, in which case they probably won't take 32-bit (cardbus) PC cards, and you won't be able to tweak the hard drive performance with hdparm very well (probably). If this matters to you, then get a PCI laptop. (I think most pentium laptops would use PCI). -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
