Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 25-Mar-2002 Hubert Chan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> "Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked > Link> for me. > > dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be > turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they > aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) > if the client fails for some reason, look in /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/messages. The reason is usually there. dhclient will say "you need CONFIG_PACKET enabled". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
Hubert Chan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked Link> for me. dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) It's entirely possible that that was my problem. I know that config_filter didn't get compiled on one of my kernels. I'll give it another try. --- derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 25-Mar-2002 Hubert Chan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> "Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked > Link> for me. > > dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be > turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they > aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) > if the client fails for some reason, look in /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/messages. The reason is usually there. dhclient will say "you need CONFIG_PACKET enabled". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked Link> for me. dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) - -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.geocities.com/hubertchan/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/71FDA37F Fingerprint: 6CC5 822D 2E55 494C 81DD 6F2C 6518 54DF 71FD A37F Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n3I9ZRhU33H9o38RAq2zAJ4v+UStxguJF0SviREYbpz1I6xtTACdHrFy wFokFsA0HCkCSZSJNDbqd9k= =LA90 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
Hubert Chan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>"Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked > Link> for me. > > dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be > turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they > aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) > It's entirely possible that that was my problem. I know that config_filter didn't get compiled on one of my kernels. I'll give it another try. --- derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked for me. and i have tried it. i'm not sure why it doesn't work, but i don't care enough to really look into it. i used to use dhcpcd (way back when i ran mandrake/redhat), but that's not in the tree any more so i'm going to continue to use pump, because it works. i'll worry about RFC compliance if dhclient ever decides to lease an IP for me. On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 23:38, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I > > didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them > > again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry > > Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is > > insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out > > the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. > > Without going into long winded technical issues the summary is: > > * it does not follow the RFC in a few important ways > * when Debian tried to use it as the default dhcp client many of our users > reported failures getting leases, especially users of red/round robin cable > service (I forget the exact name). > > And for fun: > > * it was written by the enemy (Red Hat) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Peace Love and Penguins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Link" == Link M Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Link> ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked Link> for me. dhclient/dhcp-client seems to require certain kernel options to be turned on. CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER, IIRC. (Which means if they aren't turned on already, you'll need to recompile your kernel.) - -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.geocities.com/hubertchan/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/71FDA37F Fingerprint: 6CC5 822D 2E55 494C 81DD 6F2C 6518 54DF 71FD A37F Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n3I9ZRhU33H9o38RAq2zAJ4v+UStxguJF0SviREYbpz1I6xtTACdHrFy wFokFsA0HCkCSZSJNDbqd9k= =LA90 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
ok, but i stand with derek. dhclient/dhcp-client has never worked for me. and i have tried it. i'm not sure why it doesn't work, but i don't care enough to really look into it. i used to use dhcpcd (way back when i ran mandrake/redhat), but that's not in the tree any more so i'm going to continue to use pump, because it works. i'll worry about RFC compliance if dhclient ever decides to lease an IP for me. On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 23:38, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I > > didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them > > again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry > > Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is > > insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out > > the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. > > Without going into long winded technical issues the summary is: > > * it does not follow the RFC in a few important ways > * when Debian tried to use it as the default dhcp client many of our users > reported failures getting leases, especially users of red/round robin cable > service (I forget the exact name). > > And for fun: > > * it was written by the enemy (Red Hat) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Peace Love and Penguins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
> But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I > didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them > again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry > Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is > insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out > the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. Without going into long winded technical issues the summary is: * it does not follow the RFC in a few important ways * when Debian tried to use it as the default dhcp client many of our users reported failures getting leases, especially users of red/round robin cable service (I forget the exact name). And for fun: * it was written by the enemy (Red Hat) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
> But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I > didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them > again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry > Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is > insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out > the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. Without going into long winded technical issues the summary is: * it does not follow the RFC in a few important ways * when Debian tried to use it as the default dhcp client many of our users reported failures getting leases, especially users of red/round robin cable service (I forget the exact name). And for fun: * it was written by the enemy (Red Hat) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 22-Mar-2002 Link wrote: Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link Agreed. Sean could be right - my dhcp (using pump) seems to be somewhat misfunctioning recently, but like you I can't decide whether its the server or the client. I've found that I need to boot in Windows where my client's server always serves up the same dynamic IP, then when I boot in Linux I get the same one. When I boot directly in Linux, I don't get the right WINS info. But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. -- derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 22-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > >>Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has >>never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations >>for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my >>machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every >>other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link Agreed. Sean could be right - my dhcp (using pump) seems to be somewhat misfunctioning recently, but like you I can't decide whether its the server or the client. I've found that I need to boot in Windows where my client's server always serves up the same dynamic IP, then when I boot in Linux I get the same one. When I boot directly in Linux, I don't get the right WINS info. But if I used dhcp-client or dhclient I didn't get even that far, so I'm not terribly interested in trying them again unless someone cares to explain why pump is a bad idea. (Sorry Sean, but saying "pump is pure crap", with or without a smiley face is insulting, patronizing, and potentially actionable). Either leave out the sermons, or tell us WHY it's crap. -- derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 13:00, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 20-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > > I'm not 100% positive this is my problem. I think it might be in part an > > issue with the DHCP server i connect to. But I'm curious if other people > > have encountered this problem. > > > > I run unstable (which might be the problem in and of itself) on an HP > > N3310. I have a Linksys NE2000-Compatible PCMCIA card. I run a self > > compiled kernel version 2.4.18. The /etc/init.d/pcmcia script loads and > > unloads the modules properly, but after a long period on inactivity (for > > example, overnight) the card releases its IP address (aquired via pump). > > The eth0 interface stays up, but it doesn't renew an IP address. I think > > I've found a quick fix by executing pump every 30 minutes (thanks > > cron!). But I'd like to find a real fix to the problem. Is it a bug in > > pump maybe? I don't know, hence why I'm asking the list. --Link > > well, to start with, pump is pure crap. Use a real client (-: > > Is it possible something is downing your interface in say a cron job? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Peace Love and Penguins
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 13:00, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 20-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > > I'm not 100% positive this is my problem. I think it might be in part an > > issue with the DHCP server i connect to. But I'm curious if other people > > have encountered this problem. > > > > I run unstable (which might be the problem in and of itself) on an HP > > N3310. I have a Linksys NE2000-Compatible PCMCIA card. I run a self > > compiled kernel version 2.4.18. The /etc/init.d/pcmcia script loads and > > unloads the modules properly, but after a long period on inactivity (for > > example, overnight) the card releases its IP address (aquired via pump). > > The eth0 interface stays up, but it doesn't renew an IP address. I think > > I've found a quick fix by executing pump every 30 minutes (thanks > > cron!). But I'd like to find a real fix to the problem. Is it a bug in > > pump maybe? I don't know, hence why I'm asking the list. --Link > > well, to start with, pump is pure crap. Use a real client (-: > > Is it possible something is downing your interface in say a cron job? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Peace Love and Penguins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 22-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has > never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations > for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my > machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every > other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link > I use dhclient and dhcp-client.
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 22-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > Well, between pump and dhclient, only one of them works. dhclient has > never worked for me, and so i use pump. got any other recommendations > for "real clients"? also, i think its not actually an issue on my > machine, i think its cuz my campus network dhcp servers crash every > other day or so. i'll keep ya updated if anyone cares. ;-P --link > I use dhclient and dhcp-client. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 20-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > I'm not 100% positive this is my problem. I think it might be in part an > issue with the DHCP server i connect to. But I'm curious if other people > have encountered this problem. > > I run unstable (which might be the problem in and of itself) on an HP > N3310. I have a Linksys NE2000-Compatible PCMCIA card. I run a self > compiled kernel version 2.4.18. The /etc/init.d/pcmcia script loads and > unloads the modules properly, but after a long period on inactivity (for > example, overnight) the card releases its IP address (aquired via pump). > The eth0 interface stays up, but it doesn't renew an IP address. I think > I've found a quick fix by executing pump every 30 minutes (thanks > cron!). But I'd like to find a real fix to the problem. Is it a bug in > pump maybe? I don't know, hence why I'm asking the list. --Link well, to start with, pump is pure crap. Use a real client (-: Is it possible something is downing your interface in say a cron job?
Re: PCMCIA card interface not holding its IP
On 20-Mar-2002 Link wrote: > I'm not 100% positive this is my problem. I think it might be in part an > issue with the DHCP server i connect to. But I'm curious if other people > have encountered this problem. > > I run unstable (which might be the problem in and of itself) on an HP > N3310. I have a Linksys NE2000-Compatible PCMCIA card. I run a self > compiled kernel version 2.4.18. The /etc/init.d/pcmcia script loads and > unloads the modules properly, but after a long period on inactivity (for > example, overnight) the card releases its IP address (aquired via pump). > The eth0 interface stays up, but it doesn't renew an IP address. I think > I've found a quick fix by executing pump every 30 minutes (thanks > cron!). But I'd like to find a real fix to the problem. Is it a bug in > pump maybe? I don't know, hence why I'm asking the list. --Link well, to start with, pump is pure crap. Use a real client (-: Is it possible something is downing your interface in say a cron job? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
