Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 13.25 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > Perhaps I should think about reconfiguring the EEPROM, but how? > Probably you need MS-DOS and DOS drivers for that which I don't > have. For DOS-Tools please check the manufacturer's home-page. DOS is available eg. from http://www.drdos.net/download.htm. cu -- Werner Gruesse aus Egestorf in der Lueneburger Heide http://www.heidefewo.de
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Mit, 25 Jun 2003 schrieb Werner Gast: > Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 10.11 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > > Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the > > laptop... > maybe the kernel/driver modules of different kernels use different > default values to initialize the NIC. You should never mix HD and FD > mode when using a HUB. By default a HUB works with HD only. > End of May and first days of june there were threads on the German > Users's Debian Mailing list [email protected] about > how to set up a Network Interface Card (NIC) with different speed > parameters. I will have a look at these threads. > > > My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. > This should always be a good a reasonable idea. But it is also a good > idea to learn more about your Debian Unix System and it's interaction > with your hardware. > man mii-diag will be your friend. I also tried mii-diag but my NIC is too old and does not support mii. I can use ne2k-pci-diag and get the info "Full Duplex Mode" forced. The ne2k-pci module has an option full_duplex=1 to enable FD but no one to disable it. And the documentation says that HD cannot be forced if the EEPROM is configured for FD Mode. Perhaps I should think about reconfiguring the EEPROM, but how? Probably you need MS-DOS and DOS drivers for that which I don't have. Thanks Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 13.25 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > Perhaps I should think about reconfiguring the EEPROM, but how? > Probably you need MS-DOS and DOS drivers for that which I don't > have. For DOS-Tools please check the manufacturer's home-page. DOS is available eg. from http://www.drdos.net/download.htm. cu -- Werner Gruesse aus Egestorf in der Lueneburger Heide http://www.heidefewo.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 10.11 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the > laptop... Hi Christoph, maybe the kernel/driver modules of different kernels use different default values to initialize the NIC. You should never mix HD and FD mode when using a HUB. By default a HUB works with HD only. End of May and first days of june there were threads on the German Users's Debian Mailing list [email protected] about how to set up a Network Interface Card (NIC) with different speed parameters. > My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. This should always be a good a reasonable idea. But it is also a good idea to learn more about your Debian Unix System and it's interaction with your hardware. man mii-diag will be your friend. cu -- Werner Gruesse aus Egestorf in der Lueneburger Heide http://www.heidefewo.de
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Mit, 25 Jun 2003 schrieb Werner Gast: > Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 10.11 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > > Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the > > laptop... > maybe the kernel/driver modules of different kernels use different > default values to initialize the NIC. You should never mix HD and FD > mode when using a HUB. By default a HUB works with HD only. > End of May and first days of june there were threads on the German > Users's Debian Mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] about > how to set up a Network Interface Card (NIC) with different speed > parameters. I will have a look at these threads. > > > My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. > This should always be a good a reasonable idea. But it is also a good > idea to learn more about your Debian Unix System and it's interaction > with your hardware. > man mii-diag will be your friend. I also tried mii-diag but my NIC is too old and does not support mii. I can use ne2k-pci-diag and get the info "Full Duplex Mode" forced. The ne2k-pci module has an option full_duplex=1 to enable FD but no one to disable it. And the documentation says that HD cannot be forced if the EEPROM is configured for FD Mode. Perhaps I should think about reconfiguring the EEPROM, but how? Probably you need MS-DOS and DOS drivers for that which I don't have. Thanks Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Mit, 2003-06-25 um 10.11 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the > laptop... Hi Christoph, maybe the kernel/driver modules of different kernels use different default values to initialize the NIC. You should never mix HD and FD mode when using a HUB. By default a HUB works with HD only. End of May and first days of june there were threads on the German Users's Debian Mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] about how to set up a Network Interface Card (NIC) with different speed parameters. > My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. This should always be a good a reasonable idea. But it is also a good idea to learn more about your Debian Unix System and it's interaction with your hardware. man mii-diag will be your friend. cu -- Werner Gruesse aus Egestorf in der Lueneburger Heide http://www.heidefewo.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Die, 24 Jun 2003 schrieb Hugo Wau: > Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 18.36 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > 100 kB/sec.) Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > in the network) > > if cable and hub are ok. it looks like your pcmcia card tries FD (full > duplex mode). Your 10 MBit connected Desktop interprets FD as > collisions. My Tip: Try to set your Pcmcia Ethernet card to 10 MBit HD > (Half Duplex). The PCMCIA Card is set on HD automatically, as a console message after connecting says. The ne2k-pci card, although, seems to be in FD mode as ne2k-pci-diag says, but cannot be forced to HD mode. Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the laptop... My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. Regards, Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Die, 24 Jun 2003 schrieb Joel HATSCH: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:11:32 +1200 > criggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 > > "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > > 100 kB/sec.) > > > > > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > > in the network) > > had the same problem some long time ago. > solved it by buying a SWITCH (not a hub) as I was told that the > collisions occured when the computers exchanged the "acknowledge" infos > upon receival of packets. don't blame on that, I'm not quite sure it's > true, but hey, since I have the switch it works really great !! > BTW, the switch is also 100MBit and costs around 50euro in Germany > (assuming from your subject: ) Thanks for the hint, I'll try to get a cheap switch on ebay now. And the subject...that's what happens if you translate a mail formerly sent to debian-user-german (no response there) and forget the subject... Best regards Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Die, 24 Jun 2003 schrieb Hugo Wau: > Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 18.36 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > 100 kB/sec.) Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > in the network) > > if cable and hub are ok. it looks like your pcmcia card tries FD (full > duplex mode). Your 10 MBit connected Desktop interprets FD as > collisions. My Tip: Try to set your Pcmcia Ethernet card to 10 MBit HD > (Half Duplex). The PCMCIA Card is set on HD automatically, as a console message after connecting says. The ne2k-pci card, although, seems to be in FD mode as ne2k-pci-diag says, but cannot be forced to HD mode. Nevertheless the problem does not occur when running a 2.4.18 on the laptop... My idea is now to replace the hub with a switch. Regards, Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
* Am Die, 24 Jun 2003 schrieb Joel HATSCH: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:11:32 +1200 > criggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 > > "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > > 100 kB/sec.) > > > > > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > > in the network) > > had the same problem some long time ago. > solved it by buying a SWITCH (not a hub) as I was told that the > collisions occured when the computers exchanged the "acknowledge" infos > upon receival of packets. don't blame on that, I'm not quite sure it's > true, but hey, since I have the switch it works really great !! > BTW, the switch is also 100MBit and costs around 50euro in Germany > (assuming from your subject: ) Thanks for the hint, I'll try to get a cheap switch on ebay now. And the subject...that's what happens if you translate a mail formerly sent to debian-user-german (no response there) and forget the subject... Best regards Christoph -- Christoph Maurer - http://www.christophmaurer.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tux# 194235 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:11:32 +1200 criggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 > "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > 100 kB/sec.) > > > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > in the network) Hi, had the same problem some long time ago. solved it by buying a SWITCH (not a hub) as I was told that the collisions occured when the computers exchanged the "acknowledge" infos upon receival of packets. don't blame on that, I'm not quite sure it's true, but hey, since I have the switch it works really great !! BTW, the switch is also 100MBit and costs around 50euro in Germany (assuming from your subject: ) Joel
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > 100 kB/sec.) > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > in the network) > Copying via NFS is very slow independent from the usage of the > kernel internal pcmcia drivers (module yenta_socket) or the > pcmcia_cs drivers (module i82365). > > But copying via ftp is much faster... Sounds like an NFS config problem. Please do some more testing... use time wget -c http://server/foo to download a large file via HTTP and time it Then do a similar thing via smb if you can - mount a samba share and time cp /samba/file ~ Samba should be the slowest due to overheads. If NFS comes out slower than smb then its a NFS config problem, and I'd suggest swapping from nfs-user-server to nfs-kernel-server or the other way around :-) For me, NFS is significantly faster. Goodluck!
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:11:32 +1200 criggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 > "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > > 100 kB/sec.) > > > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > > in the network) Hi, had the same problem some long time ago. solved it by buying a SWITCH (not a hub) as I was told that the collisions occured when the computers exchanged the "acknowledge" infos upon receival of packets. don't blame on that, I'm not quite sure it's true, but hey, since I have the switch it works really great !! BTW, the switch is also 100MBit and costs around 50euro in Germany (assuming from your subject: ) Joel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 18.36 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > 100 kB/sec.) Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > in the network) Hello Christoph, if cable and hub are ok. it looks like your pcmcia card tries FD (full duplex mode). Your 10 MBit connected Desktop interprets FD as collisions. My Tip: Try to set your Pcmcia Ethernet card to 10 MBit HD (Half Duplex). -- Hugo Wau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:36:29 +0200 "Christoph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > 100 kB/sec.) > Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > in the network) > Copying via NFS is very slow independent from the usage of the > kernel internal pcmcia drivers (module yenta_socket) or the > pcmcia_cs drivers (module i82365). > > But copying via ftp is much faster... Sounds like an NFS config problem. Please do some more testing... use time wget -c http://server/foo to download a large file via HTTP and time it Then do a similar thing via smb if you can - mount a samba share and time cp /samba/file ~ Samba should be the slowest due to overheads. If NFS comes out slower than smb then its a NFS config problem, and I'd suggest swapping from nfs-user-server to nfs-kernel-server or the other way around :-) For me, NFS is significantly faster. Goodluck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probleme mit Netzwerkgeschwindigkeit (PCMCIA/Kernel 2.4.20)
Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 18.36 schrieb Christoph Maurer: > When copying data between my laptop (Acer TM 520) and my desktop > computer lots of collisions occur and the speed is very low (about > 100 kB/sec.) Both computers are running woody with vanilla-kernel 2.4.21. > My desktop computer has a 10Mbit ethernet adapter using the ne2kpci > driver, my laptop uses a D-Link DFE 650 pcmcia card (pcnet_cs > driver). Both are connected via a ethernet hub (no other computers > in the network) Hello Christoph, if cable and hub are ok. it looks like your pcmcia card tries FD (full duplex mode). Your 10 MBit connected Desktop interprets FD as collisions. My Tip: Try to set your Pcmcia Ethernet card to 10 MBit HD (Half Duplex). -- Hugo Wau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
