Re: mail signature
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 06:34:20AM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: > Sorry, that's a keystroke sequence in vim, my vi clone of choice. As > another respondent suggested, I solve the problem in the editor. If you > don't use vim then you'd want to use a sequence with similar > functionality in your editor of choice: > > G go to the bottom of the file > :rread in at the current cursor position > .si completion for `.signature' >do it! > oh, I get it :) I use jed. I think I agree, reading it in from the editor is probably the best thing. Thanks! Drew
Re: mail signature
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 06:34:20AM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: > Sorry, that's a keystroke sequence in vim, my vi clone of choice. As > another respondent suggested, I solve the problem in the editor. If you > don't use vim then you'd want to use a sequence with similar > functionality in your editor of choice: > > G go to the bottom of the file > :rread in at the current cursor position > .si completion for `.signature' >do it! > oh, I get it :) I use jed. I think I agree, reading it in from the editor is probably the best thing. Thanks! Drew
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 19:01, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> >
> > G:r.si
> >
> > I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often
> > then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your
> > own macro to do it.
>
> Thanks! That sounds good enough.
[snip!]
> Your solution sounds OK! However, I can't get it to work! 'G' doesn't
> respond! I don't know why. 'A' (attach message) works. I can see it in
> the list of options when I press '?' ("get temporary copy of file") I
> could just attach it as a file via 'a', but then it won't be appended
> to the message.
Sorry, that's a keystroke sequence in vim, my vi clone of choice. As
another respondent suggested, I solve the problem in the editor. If you
don't use vim then you'd want to use a sequence with similar
functionality in your editor of choice:
G go to the bottom of the file
:r read in at the current cursor position
.si completion for `.signature'
do it!
Luck,
Pann
--
geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~.
The Choice /V\
http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\
Generation ^^-^^
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 19:01, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> >
> > G:r.si
> >
> > I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often
> > then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your
> > own macro to do it.
>
> Thanks! That sounds good enough.
[snip!]
> Your solution sounds OK! However, I can't get it to work! 'G' doesn't
> respond! I don't know why. 'A' (attach message) works. I can see it in
> the list of options when I press '?' ("get temporary copy of file") I
> could just attach it as a file via 'a', but then it won't be appended
> to the message.
Sorry, that's a keystroke sequence in vim, my vi clone of choice. As
another respondent suggested, I solve the problem in the editor. If you
don't use vim then you'd want to use a sequence with similar
functionality in your editor of choice:
G go to the bottom of the file
:r read in at the current cursor position
.si completion for `.signature'
do it!
Luck,
Pann
--
geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~.
The Choice /V\
http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\
Generation ^^-^^
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 07:01:26PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: > My source hack sort of works. The problem is that the signature is appended > *before* you start composing (so you can actually edit it), so my toggle > idea in the compose menu doesn't really help so much. You could bind a key or keys to set and unset the signature and then toggle it with that. TBH, I'd be more tempted to solve the problem in the editor than in mutt - it seems easier and more appropriate to me. Either that or come up with a signature that's generally applicable, I guess. > > There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to > > this sort of question all the time. > Yeah, I had a look there first in the archives, but they didn't seem to > address this particular aspect. I felt I should ask among my "own" > Debianites before crossing over to them. They're more likely to know than us. It's all about cooperation :-) . > test sig You don't want the sig as an attachment - it sshould be part of the body of the message. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpaNlnKmQz7b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 07:01:26PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: > My source hack sort of works. The problem is that the signature is appended > *before* you start composing (so you can actually edit it), so my toggle > idea in the compose menu doesn't really help so much. You could bind a key or keys to set and unset the signature and then toggle it with that. TBH, I'd be more tempted to solve the problem in the editor than in mutt - it seems easier and more appropriate to me. Either that or come up with a signature that's generally applicable, I guess. > > There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to > > this sort of question all the time. > Yeah, I had a look there first in the archives, but they didn't seem to > address this particular aspect. I felt I should ask among my "own" > Debianites before crossing over to them. They're more likely to know than us. It's all about cooperation :-) . > test sig You don't want the sig as an attachment - it sshould be part of the body of the message. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpiV03IkhuNU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 18:02, Drew Parsons wrote:
> >
> > What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the
> > signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when
> > composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to
> > toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this
> > kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a
> > signature.
>
> G:r.si
>
> I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often
> then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your
> own macro to do it.
Thanks! That sounds good enough.
My source hack sort of works. The problem is that the signature is appended
*before* you start composing (so you can actually edit it), so my toggle
idea in the compose menu doesn't really help so much.
Your solution sounds OK! However, I can't get it to work! 'G' doesn't
respond! I don't know why. 'A' (attach message) works. I can see it in
the list of options when I press '?' ("get temporary copy of file") I could
just attach it as a file via 'a', but then it won't be appended to the message.
>
> There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to
> this sort of question all the time.
>
> http://www.mutt.org/
>
Yeah, I had a look there first in the archives, but they didn't seem to
address this particular aspect. I felt I should ask among my "own"
Debianites before crossing over to them.
Thanks,
Drew
test sig
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 18:02, Drew Parsons wrote:
> >
> > What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the
> > signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when
> > composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to
> > toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this
> > kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a
> > signature.
>
> G:r.si
>
> I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often
> then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your
> own macro to do it.
Thanks! That sounds good enough.
My source hack sort of works. The problem is that the signature is appended
*before* you start composing (so you can actually edit it), so my toggle
idea in the compose menu doesn't really help so much.
Your solution sounds OK! However, I can't get it to work! 'G' doesn't
respond! I don't know why. 'A' (attach message) works. I can see it in
the list of options when I press '?' ("get temporary copy of file") I could
just attach it as a file via 'a', but then it won't be appended to the message.
>
> There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to
> this sort of question all the time.
>
> http://www.mutt.org/
>
Yeah, I had a look there first in the archives, but they didn't seem to
address this particular aspect. I felt I should ask among my "own"
Debianites before crossing over to them.
Thanks,
Drew
test sig
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 18:02, Drew Parsons wrote: > > What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the > signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when > composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to > toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this > kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a > signature. G:r.si I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your own macro to do it. There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to this sort of question all the time. http://www.mutt.org/ Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 18:02, Drew Parsons wrote: > > What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the > signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when > composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to > toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this > kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a > signature. G:r.si I't more than 'S' but not much more and if you're doing it too often then you probably want to set something up in your .muttrc. Or make your own macro to do it. There is a mutt mailing list BTW, with many mutt gurus responding to this sort of question all the time. http://www.mutt.org/ Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: mail signature
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 01:09:51AM +, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 04:07:04PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: > > [Shouldn't this be on debian-user?] [debian-user uses too much bandwidth] > > > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly > > This would probably be easier to answer if you could say what criteria > should be used to determine the nature of the e-mail being sent. If the > client is just supposed to guess, then that's quite hard to do. > > If you can use the e-mail address to determine what you should be doing, > then look at the send-hook option. For example, the following would > default to PGP signing messages sent to recipients in debian.org: > > send-hook . unset pgp_autosign > send-hook debian.org set pgp_autosign > Yes, that method using hooks is somewhat similar to pine's roles that Adam mentioned, changing the configuration depending on who is being written to. That is not what I want. What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a signature. Actually, I've downloaded the source, and it's not at all difficult to add this feature. It seemed the best way of solving the problem. Should I forward it to the mutt maintainer or the upstream authors? Drew
Re: mail signature
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 01:09:51AM +, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 04:07:04PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: > > [Shouldn't this be on debian-user?] [debian-user uses too much bandwidth] > > > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly > > This would probably be easier to answer if you could say what criteria > should be used to determine the nature of the e-mail being sent. If the > client is just supposed to guess, then that's quite hard to do. > > If you can use the e-mail address to determine what you should be doing, > then look at the send-hook option. For example, the following would > default to PGP signing messages sent to recipients in debian.org: > > send-hook . unset pgp_autosign > send-hook debian.org set pgp_autosign > Yes, that method using hooks is somewhat similar to pine's roles that Adam mentioned, changing the configuration depending on who is being written to. That is not what I want. What I want is to be able to arbitrarily decide manually when I want the signature appended. This would be similar to choosing the role in pine when composing a message. Just to be able to press 'S' in the compose menu to toggle between appending the signature or not. It seems strange that this kind of option is not present in mutt, allowing one's whim to append a signature. Actually, I've downloaded the source, and it's not at all difficult to add this feature. It seemed the best way of solving the problem. Should I forward it to the mutt maintainer or the upstream authors? Drew
Re: mail signature
Drew Parsons wrote: > > Does any have experience in the fine control of an email signature? > > What I want to be able to do, basically is to be able to choose myself when > I do and do not want my .signature file to be appended to an email (I > usually only want to do that if I'm writing on official business). Does any > one know of the best way to arrange this? > > Hello, Im away from home so I don't have the exact procedure at hand, but I think it can be done using the hook comands in mutt. Take a look at the documentation in /usr/doc/mutt. As soon as I get back home I could submit more detailed directions. Good Luck, Felipe Sanchez
Re: mail signature
Drew Parsons wrote: > > Does any have experience in the fine control of an email signature? > > What I want to be able to do, basically is to be able to choose myself when > I do and do not want my .signature file to be appended to an email (I > usually only want to do that if I'm writing on official business). Does any > one know of the best way to arrange this? > > Hello, Im away from home so I don't have the exact procedure at hand, but I think it can be done using the hook comands in mutt. Take a look at the documentation in /usr/doc/mutt. As soon as I get back home I could submit more detailed directions. Good Luck, Felipe Sanchez
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 04:07:04PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: [Shouldn't this be on debian-user?] > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly This would probably be easier to answer if you could say what criteria should be used to determine the nature of the e-mail being sent. If the client is just supposed to guess, then that's quite hard to do. If you can use the e-mail address to determine what you should be doing, then look at the send-hook option. For example, the following would default to PGP signing messages sent to recipients in debian.org: send-hook . unset pgp_autosign send-hook debian.org set pgp_autosign -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgp1RSKHTr2db.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail signature
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 04:07:04PM -0800, Drew Parsons wrote: [Shouldn't this be on debian-user?] > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly This would probably be easier to answer if you could say what criteria should be used to determine the nature of the e-mail being sent. If the client is just supposed to guess, then that's quite hard to do. If you can use the e-mail address to determine what you should be doing, then look at the send-hook option. For example, the following would default to PGP signing messages sent to recipients in debian.org: send-hook . unset pgp_autosign send-hook debian.org set pgp_autosign -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpxsnlo5ACMF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail signature
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Drew Parsons wrote: > What I want to be able to do, basically is to be able to choose myself when > I do and do not want my .signature file to be appended to an email (I > usually only want to do that if I'm writing on official business). Does any > one know of the best way to arrange this? > > I believe Netscape has the option of choosing when to use the signature, but > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly > what I want. > > I'll be interested if anyone has got their signature working in this way. > > Drew Pine 4.21 (And a few before this) have the option of defining "Roles." Based on normal sorts of filter criteria, (From, To, Subject and Body) contents, Pine can make replies have different signatures, reply-to addresses, from addresses, and saving behavior. You can also choose a role during a normalk compose. I think this is exactly what you want, except that it is pine, not mutt. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] My wall paper and I are fighting a duel to the death. One or the other of us has to go. -- last words of Oscar Wilde
Re: mail signature
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Drew Parsons wrote: > What I want to be able to do, basically is to be able to choose myself when > I do and do not want my .signature file to be appended to an email (I > usually only want to do that if I'm writing on official business). Does any > one know of the best way to arrange this? > > I believe Netscape has the option of choosing when to use the signature, but > I'm using mutt, which either uses a defined signature, or not. I can define > what file to use for the signature, and therefore could write a little > script to handle it for me, but before I do that I want to know if it's > already been done. I know there are sig programs for generating random > signatures (with varying quotations or whatever), but that's not exactly > what I want. > > I'll be interested if anyone has got their signature working in this way. > > Drew Pine 4.21 (And a few before this) have the option of defining "Roles." Based on normal sorts of filter criteria, (From, To, Subject and Body) contents, Pine can make replies have different signatures, reply-to addresses, from addresses, and saving behavior. You can also choose a role during a normalk compose. I think this is exactly what you want, except that it is pine, not mutt. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] My wall paper and I are fighting a duel to the death. One or the other of us has to go. -- last words of Oscar Wilde
