Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: > > I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run > fine > except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash > the > machine completely. > many moons ago when I installed Xfree 4.0.0 it too would not suspend properly. The only way I could get the machine to work was to change to a text console before I suspended and then suspend. However when I resumed my laptop X was completely mangled however I could restart it at which point it was fine until the next resume. But I didn't try any of the various 'options' for my graphics card as I didn't know about the existance of such things until more recently. Alex
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: > > I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run > fine > except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash > the > machine completely. > many moons ago when I installed Xfree 4.0.0 it too would not suspend properly. The only way I could get the machine to work was to change to a text console before I suspended and then suspend. However when I resumed my laptop X was completely mangled however I could restart it at which point it was fine until the next resume. But I didn't try any of the various 'options' for my graphics card as I didn't know about the existance of such things until more recently. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
> Hi, have you manage to get X to resume properly? > > I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run fine > except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash the > machine completely. > I got a help message from Alexander Clouter. As he suggested I added a line Option "noaccel" in XF86Config. I am not sure whether it works or not since I haven't tried suspend mode again. And I will avoid suspending before you try it. :) lin __o o _`\<,_ Z (_)/ (_) /> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 1 13:31:23 2000 From: Alexander Clouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:15:09 +0100 Subject: Re: strange melting screen when X starts > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. > This is probably do to some of the X server acceleration functions being activated that then play havac with your machine due to X not knowing about suspend and hibernate. Add to you XF86Config file under the graphics card section --- Option "noaccel" --- and see what that does. There are quite a few acceleration options avaliable for the trident cards (see trident.txt or something similar) that you can play with to try and get more speed or compatibility from X. However usually these can be direct trade-offs and only a trial and error approach method can find whats good and whats not.
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard Xiaolan Ling say > Thanks very much! I made some more progress in the weekend. I can login > as normal user after I deleted the .xsession file in the user's home > dir. I think I made a big mess when I was upgrading X. Hopefully, it > works now and my system hasn't hanged up till now. Hi, have you manage to get X to resume properly? I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run fine except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash the machine completely. Chanop -- ,---. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `---' pgpajyYtD1asF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
> Hi, have you manage to get X to resume properly? > > I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run fine > except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash the > machine completely. > I got a help message from Alexander Clouter. As he suggested I added a line Option "noaccel" in XF86Config. I am not sure whether it works or not since I haven't tried suspend mode again. And I will avoid suspending before you try it. :) lin __o o _`\<,_ Z (_)/ (_) /> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 1 13:31:23 2000 From: Alexander Clouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:15:09 +0100 Subject: Re: strange melting screen when X starts > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. > This is probably do to some of the X server acceleration functions being activated that then play havac with your machine due to X not knowing about suspend and hibernate. Add to you XF86Config file under the graphics card section --- Option "noaccel" --- and see what that does. There are quite a few acceleration options avaliable for the trident cards (see trident.txt or something similar) that you can play with to try and get more speed or compatibility from X. However usually these can be direct trade-offs and only a trial and error approach method can find whats good and whats not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard Xiaolan Ling say > Thanks very much! I made some more progress in the weekend. I can login > as normal user after I deleted the .xsession file in the user's home > dir. I think I made a big mess when I was upgrading X. Hopefully, it > works now and my system hasn't hanged up till now. Hi, have you manage to get X to resume properly? I installed xfree 4.0.1 deb (phase1 ~ alpha package). It seems to run fine except that I could not suspend/stand because when resume X would crash the machine completely. Chanop -- ,---. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `---' PGP signature
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > About the floppy LED problem, I think I'll have to contact my laptop's > manufacturer. Probably it's mad after too many times hard restart. > This seems the only thing you can do. The actual problem sounds like a broken LED or loose wire/contact. > I compiled kernel 2.2.17 in the weekend, but didn't notice that it can > help with my display. I would be very thankful if you can tell me more. > it shouldn't really help with the display as the kernel deals mainly with the running of linux rather than displaying input/output. I would imagine that the actual display code changes very little between kernel revisions. All that newer kernels do are 1) fix any bugs that were discovered in earier kernels 2) add support for new hardware 3) add new protocols I'm sure the list can be flamed/corrected/added to. ;) To improve the display this really all depends upon the version of X you are running. Really all you can do is run the latest stable version (3.3.6) or the latest unstable version (4.0.1). have fun Alex
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > About the floppy LED problem, I think I'll have to contact my laptop's > manufacturer. Probably it's mad after too many times hard restart. > This seems the only thing you can do. The actual problem sounds like a broken LED or loose wire/contact. > I compiled kernel 2.2.17 in the weekend, but didn't notice that it can > help with my display. I would be very thankful if you can tell me more. > it shouldn't really help with the display as the kernel deals mainly with the running of linux rather than displaying input/output. I would imagine that the actual display code changes very little between kernel revisions. All that newer kernels do are 1) fix any bugs that were discovered in earier kernels 2) add support for new hardware 3) add new protocols I'm sure the list can be flamed/corrected/added to. ;) To improve the display this really all depends upon the version of X you are running. Really all you can do is run the latest stable version (3.3.6) or the latest unstable version (4.0.1). have fun Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Thanks very much! I made some more progress in the weekend. I can login as normal user after I deleted the .xsession file in the user's home dir. I think I made a big mess when I was upgrading X. Hopefully, it works now and my system hasn't hanged up till now. About the floppy LED problem, I think I'll have to contact my laptop's manufacturer. Probably it's mad after too many times hard restart. I compiled kernel 2.2.17 in the weekend, but didn't notice that it can help with my display. I would be very thankful if you can tell me more. Lin __o o _`\<,_ Z (_)/ (_) /> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Alexander Clouter wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, name wrote: > > > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > > screen text mode and a nice X? > > > If I was you I would remove the references for your 640x480 screen mode > for X as it's pointless so that X automatically defaults to 800x600. If > you still need 640x480 make it the second mode definition so that X > default to 800x600. Then re-enable your screen expansion and reboot. See > what that does. With screen expansion I hope you have found a nice text > console screen size to use so that when the text is expanded it looks > okay. This involves a kernel recompile and various things. If you need > to know how to do this just ask and I will guide you through this.
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Thanks very much! I made some more progress in the weekend. I can login as normal user after I deleted the .xsession file in the user's home dir. I think I made a big mess when I was upgrading X. Hopefully, it works now and my system hasn't hanged up till now. About the floppy LED problem, I think I'll have to contact my laptop's manufacturer. Probably it's mad after too many times hard restart. I compiled kernel 2.2.17 in the weekend, but didn't notice that it can help with my display. I would be very thankful if you can tell me more. Lin __o o _`\<,_ Z (_)/ (_) /> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Alexander Clouter wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, name wrote: > > > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > > screen text mode and a nice X? > > > If I was you I would remove the references for your 640x480 screen mode > for X as it's pointless so that X automatically defaults to 800x600. If > you still need 640x480 make it the second mode definition so that X > default to 800x600. Then re-enable your screen expansion and reboot. See > what that does. With screen expansion I hope you have found a nice text > console screen size to use so that when the text is expanded it looks > okay. This involves a kernel recompile and various things. If you need > to know how to do this just ask and I will guide you through this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: > > Use framebuffer, you will get full screen console mode at 800x600. > With both 2.2 & 2.4 kernel, I pass vga=0x315 as a kernel parameter via > either grub or lilo. Check lilo/grub/kernel document for more info. BTW, > it > seems that current kernel shipped with potato already use frame buffer > support. > all well and good if you don't mind accepting the performance hit that a SVGA textmode gives you. Alex
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: > > Use framebuffer, you will get full screen console mode at 800x600. > With both 2.2 & 2.4 kernel, I pass vga=0x315 as a kernel parameter via > either grub or lilo. Check lilo/grub/kernel document for more info. BTW, > it > seems that current kernel shipped with potato already use frame buffer > support. > all well and good if you don't mind accepting the performance hit that a SVGA textmode gives you. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard name say > Thanks for everybody's help! > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? Use framebuffer, you will get full screen console mode at 800x600. With both 2.2 & 2.4 kernel, I pass vga=0x315 as a kernel parameter via either grub or lilo. Check lilo/grub/kernel document for more info. BTW, it seems that current kernel shipped with potato already use frame buffer support. > And there are still some other problems. > > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. to kill X with xdm use /etc/init.d/xdm stop. And if you have apm compiled and turned on in the kernel, after suspend, when I use frame buffer, it should come back as normal. > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... Sth is wrong with your login application, in this case xdm. > After upgrade, the mouse didn't work until I found some problem in the > /etc/gpm.conf file. > > And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which > can't be found in 4.0.1. apt-get install xbanner :) ofcourse > The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does > it matter? > > The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which > can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. That was old xdm script shiped with 3.3.2 deb that tried to cope with old xdm behavior that it would restart forever if you have a mess up XF86config file. the /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config was removed around 3.3.3 or 3.3.4. Chanop -- ,. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `' pgpyS3ny41MsL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard name say > Thanks for everybody's help! > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? Use framebuffer, you will get full screen console mode at 800x600. With both 2.2 & 2.4 kernel, I pass vga=0x315 as a kernel parameter via either grub or lilo. Check lilo/grub/kernel document for more info. BTW, it seems that current kernel shipped with potato already use frame buffer support. > And there are still some other problems. > > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. to kill X with xdm use /etc/init.d/xdm stop. And if you have apm compiled and turned on in the kernel, after suspend, when I use frame buffer, it should come back as normal. > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... Sth is wrong with your login application, in this case xdm. > After upgrade, the mouse didn't work until I found some problem in the > /etc/gpm.conf file. > > And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which > can't be found in 4.0.1. apt-get install xbanner :) ofcourse > The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does > it matter? > > The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which > can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. That was old xdm script shiped with 3.3.2 deb that tried to cope with old xdm behavior that it would restart forever if you have a mess up XF86config file. the /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config was removed around 3.3.3 or 3.3.4. Chanop -- ,. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `' PGP signature
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, name wrote: > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? > If I was you I would remove the references for your 640x480 screen mode for X as it's pointless so that X automatically defaults to 800x600. If you still need 640x480 make it the second mode definition so that X default to 800x600. Then re-enable your screen expansion and reboot. See what that does. With screen expansion I hope you have found a nice text console screen size to use so that when the text is expanded it looks okay. This involves a kernel recompile and various things. If you need to know how to do this just ask and I will guide you through this. > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. > This is probably do to some of the X server acceleration functions being activated that then play havac with your machine due to X not knowing about suspend and hibernate. Add to you XF86Config file under the graphics card section --- Option "noaccel" --- and see what that does. There are quite a few acceleration options avaliable for the trident cards (see trident.txt or something similar) that you can play with to try and get more speed or compatibility from X. However usually these can be direct trade-offs and only a trial and error approach method can find whats good and whats not. > 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux > or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an > article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. > I was only able to get sometihng like this on a desktop machine by plugging the floppy drive in the wrong way round ;) > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... > When I upgraded to X 4.0.0 some time ago I did a straight binary write over. This caused me no problems. However instead of xdm I use Login.app as it provides a much nicer login screen :) Just type --- apt-get install Login.app --- and see if that helps if you have apt-get setup. If you don't just find the relevent Login.app deb packages and manually install them. If this doesn't work a possibility is that xdm (or Login.app) is not being run as root and so you may be able to change this by editing /etc/inittab. However I'm not sure. > And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which > can't be found in 4.0.1. > these if I remember can be found in some other tarball from www.xfree86.org or its relevent mirror sites. > The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does > it matter? > ??? The only useful configuration files for X windows for me has been XF86Config and .xsession. I never actually was able to get xserverrc to do anything constructive, however this could just be me :) > The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which > can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. > try Login.app much nicer ;) good luck Alex
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, name wrote: > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? > If I was you I would remove the references for your 640x480 screen mode for X as it's pointless so that X automatically defaults to 800x600. If you still need 640x480 make it the second mode definition so that X default to 800x600. Then re-enable your screen expansion and reboot. See what that does. With screen expansion I hope you have found a nice text console screen size to use so that when the text is expanded it looks okay. This involves a kernel recompile and various things. If you need to know how to do this just ask and I will guide you through this. > 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' > from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. > But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X > by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back > from suspend mode. > This is probably do to some of the X server acceleration functions being activated that then play havac with your machine due to X not knowing about suspend and hibernate. Add to you XF86Config file under the graphics card section --- Option "noaccel" --- and see what that does. There are quite a few acceleration options avaliable for the trident cards (see trident.txt or something similar) that you can play with to try and get more speed or compatibility from X. However usually these can be direct trade-offs and only a trial and error approach method can find whats good and whats not. > 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux > or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an > article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. > I was only able to get sometihng like this on a desktop machine by plugging the floppy drive in the wrong way round ;) > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... > When I upgraded to X 4.0.0 some time ago I did a straight binary write over. This caused me no problems. However instead of xdm I use Login.app as it provides a much nicer login screen :) Just type --- apt-get install Login.app --- and see if that helps if you have apt-get setup. If you don't just find the relevent Login.app deb packages and manually install them. If this doesn't work a possibility is that xdm (or Login.app) is not being run as root and so you may be able to change this by editing /etc/inittab. However I'm not sure. > And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which > can't be found in 4.0.1. > these if I remember can be found in some other tarball from www.xfree86.org or its relevent mirror sites. > The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does > it matter? > ??? The only useful configuration files for X windows for me has been XF86Config and .xsession. I never actually was able to get xserverrc to do anything constructive, however this could just be me :) > The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which > can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. > try Login.app much nicer ;) good luck Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
> Thanks for everybody's help! > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? With the caveat that I don't have a laptop with this problem - you can almost certainly get more text onto the screen by using another vga mode you might be able to use /dev/nvram to spot where the option for that thing is, and then (maybe) tweak it yourself when you need (stuff it in your startx script for example) > And there are still some other problems. > > 1) X can't be killed nicely. Try switch to text console before suspend? > 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux > or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an > article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. If you can recall any unique buzzwords, try them in Google (www.google.com) > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... I haven't used X 4 yet, can't help you out there. * Heather Stern * star@ many places
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
> Thanks for everybody's help! > > I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution > expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting > screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 > small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full > screen text mode and a nice X? With the caveat that I don't have a laptop with this problem - you can almost certainly get more text onto the screen by using another vga mode you might be able to use /dev/nvram to spot where the option for that thing is, and then (maybe) tweak it yourself when you need (stuff it in your startx script for example) > And there are still some other problems. > > 1) X can't be killed nicely. Try switch to text console before suspend? > 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux > or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an > article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. If you can recall any unique buzzwords, try them in Google (www.google.com) > 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something > wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... I haven't used X 4 yet, can't help you out there. * Heather Stern * star@ many places -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Thanks for everybody's help! I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full screen text mode and a nice X? And there are still some other problems. 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back from suspend mode. 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... After upgrade, the mouse didn't work until I found some problem in the /etc/gpm.conf file. And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which can't be found in 4.0.1. The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does it matter? The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. Thanks for everybody's suggestions! Can I have more? :) On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Alexander Clouter wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > > and now it works. But there are still some problems. > > > > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. > > > > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > > in my XF86Config file. > > > sounds like your screen has been horizontally overclocked. This produces > the interesting melting effect you are describing. If you are vertically > overclocked then you get a few vertical strips scattered > around. Sometimes hard reboots are required :( > > To solve this I recommend looking on the internet (deja or google will > do) and find what specs work for your laptop. Doesn't matter if the > configuration options come from x version 4 (unlikely) or an old version, > even 3.3.1 would do. Extract the horizontal and vertical sync values and > place them in your new XF86Config file. restart x and see what that does.
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Thanks for everybody's help! I've done it. I found an option in my BIOS setup called 'resolution expended', and it was enabled by default. I disabled it and the melting screen never show again. But there is a trade off. I can only get 640x480 small screen for text mode now. It's a bit painful. Can I have both full screen text mode and a nice X? And there are still some other problems. 1) X can't be killed nicely. After ctrl-alt-backspace or 'exit' 'restart' from menu, it will get back to the login screen, and the system hangs up. But I can swich to text mode by ctrl-alt-Fx, and can also nicely back to X by alt-F7. And it also hangs up at the xdm login screen after comes back from suspend mode. 3) The floppy LED keeps on from power on to power off, no matter in Linux or Win98. It had never happened before I configed my new XFree86. I saw an article about this problem before. But I can't find it again. 4) I still can't login as a normal user. I guess it's because something wrong with my upgrade from 3.3.2 to 4.0.1. For example... After upgrade, the mouse didn't work until I found some problem in the /etc/gpm.conf file. And some X scripts still look for 'xbanner' 'freetemp' programs which can't be found in 4.0.1. The /etc/xinit/xserverrc is a link to itself, and seems never work. Does it matter? The /etc/init.d/xdm script runs /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config program which can not cope with 4.0.1 XF86Config file. Thanks for everybody's suggestions! Can I have more? :) On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Alexander Clouter wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > > and now it works. But there are still some problems. > > > > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. > > > > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > > in my XF86Config file. > > > sounds like your screen has been horizontally overclocked. This produces > the interesting melting effect you are describing. If you are vertically > overclocked then you get a few vertical strips scattered > around. Sometimes hard reboots are required :( > > To solve this I recommend looking on the internet (deja or google will > do) and find what specs work for your laptop. Doesn't matter if the > configuration options come from x version 4 (unlikely) or an old version, > even 3.3.1 would do. Extract the horizontal and vertical sync values and > place them in your new XF86Config file. restart x and see what that does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > and now it works. But there are still some problems. > > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. > > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > in my XF86Config file. > sounds like your screen has been horizontally overclocked. This produces the interesting melting effect you are describing. If you are vertically overclocked then you get a few vertical strips scattered around. Sometimes hard reboots are required :( To solve this I recommend looking on the internet (deja or google will do) and find what specs work for your laptop. Doesn't matter if the configuration options come from x version 4 (unlikely) or an old version, even 3.3.1 would do. Extract the horizontal and vertical sync values and place them in your new XF86Config file. restart x and see what that does. > 2) After start xdm, I can't login using a normal user account. Only root > is ok. If I login as others, it will give me that colorful screen. And I > have to switch to 800x600. Then I am still not logged in. > is xdm running as root? I'm not sure if this would be the problem however its an initial guess ;) > 3) I can't exit from X properly. In xdm, if I click on the 'exit' in the > pop menu, it will show me the colorful screen again, and more worse, > keyboard and mouse will stop responding. I have to tune off the power > and start again. > hopefully option one will fix this as when you exit x is actually restarted, if I remember, and so your back to as if you ran x for the first time. > Yesterday, I tried to change something in XF86Config, and then start > xdm, the colorful screen became a bit readable. I can see the > login frame, although it's very ugly. I forgot what I changed. Probable > the dot clocks and modeline. > again extract the nitty bitty bits from an internet XF86Config file and see what happens :) good luck Alex
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > and now it works. But there are still some problems. > > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. > > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > in my XF86Config file. > sounds like your screen has been horizontally overclocked. This produces the interesting melting effect you are describing. If you are vertically overclocked then you get a few vertical strips scattered around. Sometimes hard reboots are required :( To solve this I recommend looking on the internet (deja or google will do) and find what specs work for your laptop. Doesn't matter if the configuration options come from x version 4 (unlikely) or an old version, even 3.3.1 would do. Extract the horizontal and vertical sync values and place them in your new XF86Config file. restart x and see what that does. > 2) After start xdm, I can't login using a normal user account. Only root > is ok. If I login as others, it will give me that colorful screen. And I > have to switch to 800x600. Then I am still not logged in. > is xdm running as root? I'm not sure if this would be the problem however its an initial guess ;) > 3) I can't exit from X properly. In xdm, if I click on the 'exit' in the > pop menu, it will show me the colorful screen again, and more worse, > keyboard and mouse will stop responding. I have to tune off the power > and start again. > hopefully option one will fix this as when you exit x is actually restarted, if I remember, and so your back to as if you ran x for the first time. > Yesterday, I tried to change something in XF86Config, and then start > xdm, the colorful screen became a bit readable. I can see the > login frame, although it's very ugly. I forgot what I changed. Probable > the dot clocks and modeline. > again extract the nitty bitty bits from an internet XF86Config file and see what happens :) good luck Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard Xiaolan Ling say > Hi, > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > and now it works. But there are still some problems. I haven't tried Xfree86 4.0.1 on my laptop yet. I'm waiting for the deb package, so the big hassle should be taken out of my hand :) Current 3.3.6-10 .deb is working fine for me, but slow, huh !. > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. Similar to me, I have power slim 600. > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > in my XF86Config file. I usually saw the green/red melting screen when I reboot by, shutdown -r. I have frame buffer support running at 800x600 in the kernel, do you have one? With out it, I couldn't get X to resume from apm properly. The display would be like a garbage. > 2) After start xdm, I can't login using a normal user account. Only root > is ok. If I login as others, it will give me that colorful screen. And I > have to switch to 800x600. Then I am still not logged in. not sure whether this is xdm that comes with your XFree 4.0.1 problem or not. It could be that start up scripts are messed up when you upgrade X. > 3) I can't exit from X properly. In xdm, if I click on the 'exit' in the > pop menu, it will show me the colorful screen again, and more worse, > keyboard and mouse will stop responding. I have to tune off the power > and start again. No idea. > After running xvidtune I got these settings: > > Pixel clock(MHz): 56.30 > HSync(KHz): 53.72 > Sync(Hz): 85.14 > > Hdisplay: 800 > HSync start: 832 > HSync end: 896 > Htotal: 1048 > > Vdisplay: 600 > VSync start: 601 > VSync end: 604 > Vtotal: 631 > > In /var/log/XFree86.0.log file I found > > Trident(0): Setting BIOS MODE 6d > > and after I do ctrl-alt-+ it will change to 6c, do it again, it will > back to 6d. I don't know what that means. Does it matter? > > Yesterday, I tried to change something in XF86Config, and then start > xdm, the colorful screen became a bit readable. I can see the > login frame, although it's very ugly. I forgot what I changed. Probable > the dot clocks and modeline. Xfree86 4.0.1 deb should be out very soon, see X-strike force page, under development corner. Chanop -- ,. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `' pgpalyxUtIeW4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: strange melting screen when X starts
Once upon a time, I heard Xiaolan Ling say > Hi, > > I installed the newest XFree86 4.0.1 on my Debian2.1 laptop recently, > and now it works. But there are still some problems. I haven't tried Xfree86 4.0.1 on my laptop yet. I'm waiting for the deb package, so the big hassle should be taken out of my hand :) Current 3.3.6-10 .deb is working fine for me, but slow, huh !. > My laptop is Twinhead Slimnote VX3, Toshiba 12.1" TFT LCD, 800x600 SVGA, > 2560K VideoRAM, Trident Cyber 9525DVD chip. Similar to me, I have power slim 600. > 1) After start up the X, I always get a unreadable colorful screen. It > melts from the edges to the center of the screen. After doing ctrl-alt-+ > to switch to 800x600 or 640x480 mode, it will be ok. I don't know where > this colorful screen comes from, since I only have 800x600 and 640x480 > in my XF86Config file. I usually saw the green/red melting screen when I reboot by, shutdown -r. I have frame buffer support running at 800x600 in the kernel, do you have one? With out it, I couldn't get X to resume from apm properly. The display would be like a garbage. > 2) After start xdm, I can't login using a normal user account. Only root > is ok. If I login as others, it will give me that colorful screen. And I > have to switch to 800x600. Then I am still not logged in. not sure whether this is xdm that comes with your XFree 4.0.1 problem or not. It could be that start up scripts are messed up when you upgrade X. > 3) I can't exit from X properly. In xdm, if I click on the 'exit' in the > pop menu, it will show me the colorful screen again, and more worse, > keyboard and mouse will stop responding. I have to tune off the power > and start again. No idea. > After running xvidtune I got these settings: > > Pixel clock(MHz): 56.30 > HSync(KHz): 53.72 > Sync(Hz): 85.14 > > Hdisplay: 800 > HSync start: 832 > HSync end: 896 > Htotal: 1048 > > Vdisplay: 600 > VSync start: 601 > VSync end: 604 > Vtotal: 631 > > In /var/log/XFree86.0.log file I found > > Trident(0): Setting BIOS MODE 6d > > and after I do ctrl-alt-+ it will change to 6c, do it again, it will > back to 6d. I don't know what that means. Does it matter? > > Yesterday, I tried to change something in XF86Config, and then start > xdm, the colorful screen became a bit readable. I can see the > login frame, although it's very ugly. I forgot what I changed. Probable > the dot clocks and modeline. Xfree86 4.0.1 deb should be out very soon, see X-strike force page, under development corner. Chanop -- ,. | Just Debian ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `' PGP signature
