Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> Have you got the Toshiba Tecra 8000?  If so, how do you get it into
> suspend mode?

nope the thinkpad 390. 

sorry.

adam.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> Have you got the Toshiba Tecra 8000?  If so, how do you get it into
> suspend mode?

nope the thinkpad 390. 

sorry.

adam.


Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Mark Phillips

> > I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on. I
> > am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.
> 
> fwiw it works just fine for me.  it was a little flakey at first but now
> that i'm running 2.2.12 )and i belive the important part was to enable
> CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y on my kernel build) it works great.  sure is a lot
> faster then shutting down all the time :-)

Have you got the Toshiba Tecra 8000?  If so, how do you get it into
suspend mode?

Thanks,

Mark.



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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Mark Phillips

> > I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on. I
> > am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.
> 
> fwiw it works just fine for me.  it was a little flakey at first but now
> that i'm running 2.2.12 )and i belive the important part was to enable
> CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y on my kernel build) it works great.  sure is a lot
> faster then shutting down all the time :-)

Have you got the Toshiba Tecra 8000?  If so, how do you get it into
suspend mode?

Thanks,

Mark.



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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> ess - Works without problems with alsa ...

damn, i haven't found anyone with the neomagic that's managed to make sound
work well.

> I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on. I
> am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.

fwiw it works just fine for me.  it was a little flakey at first but now
that i'm running 2.2.12 )and i belive the important part was to enable
CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y on my kernel build) it works great.  sure is a lot
faster then shutting down all the time :-)

adam.




Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> ess - Works without problems with alsa ...

damn, i haven't found anyone with the neomagic that's managed to make sound
work well.

> I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on. I
> am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.

fwiw it works just fine for me.  it was a little flakey at first but now
that i'm running 2.2.12 )and i belive the important part was to enable
CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y on my kernel build) it works great.  sure is a lot
faster then shutting down all the time :-)

adam.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 05:21:28PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote:
> 
> which 390 do you have?  the one with the neomagic sound card or the one with
> the ess?  if you have the neomagic one i'd love to know if/how you got sound

ess - Works without problems with alsa ...

> to work.  i've hard marginal sucess, and found nothing to make sound work
> after have suspended one (rebooting for sound is more then it's worth :).

I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on.

I am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.

Flo
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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 05:21:28PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote:
> 
> which 390 do you have?  the one with the neomagic sound card or the one with
> the ess?  if you have the neomagic one i'd love to know if/how you got sound

ess - Works without problems with alsa ...

> to work.  i've hard marginal sucess, and found nothing to make sound work
> after have suspended one (rebooting for sound is more then it's worth :).

I am not trusting in suspending and so called "Hibernation" and so on.

I am shutting down when i stop using the laptop.

Flo
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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Craig Askings
>
>What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
>property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?
>
Ok I hope this is a understandable explanation.

Cardbus is a newer standard that incorporates PCMCIA so that it can be
backwards compatable. Cardbus Sockets can take both PCMICA and Cardbus
cards. However Cardbus cards won't fit in a PCMCIA socket. On the card side
of the standard Cardbus are 32-bit cards that run at 3.3v while PCMCIA is
16bit and 5v.

The easiest way to tell the difference between the cards (I know this is the
case for Xircom cards not sure about other brands):

PCMCIA: Flat silver strip on top of card.
Cardbus: Bronze strip with little raised bumps on top of the card.

Regards,
Craig.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Craig Askings
>
>What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
>property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?
>
Ok I hope this is a understandable explanation.

Cardbus is a newer standard that incorporates PCMCIA so that it can be
backwards compatable. Cardbus Sockets can take both PCMICA and Cardbus
cards. However Cardbus cards won't fit in a PCMCIA socket. On the card side
of the standard Cardbus are 32-bit cards that run at 3.3v while PCMCIA is
16bit and 5v.

The easiest way to tell the difference between the cards (I know this is the
case for Xircom cards not sure about other brands):

PCMCIA: Flat silver strip on top of card.
Cardbus: Bronze strip with little raised bumps on top of the card.

Regards,
Craig.


Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> The pcmcia utils - I had no luck with the 3.0.14 - Instead i debianized
> the 3.1 pcmcia utils and those worked flawlessly ...

hey thanks for that, this is the exact same setup i've got, i'll upgrade!

> Currently running Toshiba Tecra 8000 and an IBM Thinkpad 390 with the
> Cardbus Realport 10/100 + Modem without any problems ...
> 
> I worked around the 3.0.14 pcmcia utils bugs by using the cardctl
> utility and suspending and resuming the cards. Afterwards they were
> detected ok ...

yep same.

which 390 do you have?  the one with the neomagic sound card or the one with
the ess?  if you have the neomagic one i'd love to know if/how you got sound
to work.  i've hard marginal sucess, and found nothing to make sound work
after have suspended one (rebooting for sound is more then it's worth :).

adam.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> The pcmcia utils - I had no luck with the 3.0.14 - Instead i debianized
> the 3.1 pcmcia utils and those worked flawlessly ...

hey thanks for that, this is the exact same setup i've got, i'll upgrade!

> Currently running Toshiba Tecra 8000 and an IBM Thinkpad 390 with the
> Cardbus Realport 10/100 + Modem without any problems ...
> 
> I worked around the 3.0.14 pcmcia utils bugs by using the cardctl
> utility and suspending and resuming the cards. Afterwards they were
> detected ok ...

yep same.

which 390 do you have?  the one with the neomagic sound card or the one with
the ess?  if you have the neomagic one i'd love to know if/how you got sound
to work.  i've hard marginal sucess, and found nothing to make sound work
after have suspended one (rebooting for sound is more then it's worth :).

adam.


Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> Thanks for all the comments!  I've got the modem working, by using
> /dev/ttyS3.

great!

> What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
> property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?

to be honest i'm not exactly sure of all the answers (eg. is it an extension
to pcmcia or an entirely new protocol/standard?).  my laptop has cardbus
pcmcia slots.  my xircom real port is not cardbus compatible.  but you can't
use a cardbus card in a non-cardbus slot.

> My card seems to be working now, but the "hot swap" doesn't work. That
> is, to get the card recognized I need to do a "/etc/init.d/pcmcia
> restart".

don't know sorry.

> Thanks for that!  It's a great tip!!!  How did you find out about that?

no problem.  i think i just stumbled across it one day and made a mental
note to remember it :)

adam.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Adam Shand

> Thanks for all the comments!  I've got the modem working, by using
> /dev/ttyS3.

great!

> What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
> property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?

to be honest i'm not exactly sure of all the answers (eg. is it an extension
to pcmcia or an entirely new protocol/standard?).  my laptop has cardbus
pcmcia slots.  my xircom real port is not cardbus compatible.  but you can't
use a cardbus card in a non-cardbus slot.

> My card seems to be working now, but the "hot swap" doesn't work. That
> is, to get the card recognized I need to do a "/etc/init.d/pcmcia
> restart".

don't know sorry.

> Thanks for that!  It's a great tip!!!  How did you find out about that?

no problem.  i think i just stumbled across it one day and made a mental
note to remember it :)

adam.


Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Mark Phillips

Thanks for all the comments!  I've got the modem working, by using
/dev/ttyS3.

> > I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> > package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> > when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> > to recognise that anything has changed.
> 
> i haven't used mine under the 2.0 kernels (only 2.2) but i believe that they
> are still supported just fine.  a couple things to be aware of though:
> 
>  * if you're pcmcia slots are cardbus you need a fairly recent (more recent
>then is in slink/stabe i believe) pcmcia-cs package in order to be able
>to use it.  either upgrade to potato/unstable or compile you own (but
>make sure it's a current version).

What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?

My card seems to be working now, but the "hot swap" doesn't work.
That is, to get the card recognized I need to do a 
"/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart".

> you can find out which tty your modem is on by:
> 
> heyzeus(larry)$ cat /var/run/stab 

Thanks for that!  It's a great tip!!!  How did you find out about that?

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-27 Thread Mark Phillips

Thanks for all the comments!  I've got the modem working, by using
/dev/ttyS3.

> > I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> > package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> > when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> > to recognise that anything has changed.
> 
> i haven't used mine under the 2.0 kernels (only 2.2) but i believe that they
> are still supported just fine.  a couple things to be aware of though:
> 
>  * if you're pcmcia slots are cardbus you need a fairly recent (more recent
>then is in slink/stabe i believe) pcmcia-cs package in order to be able
>to use it.  either upgrade to potato/unstable or compile you own (but
>make sure it's a current version).

What is "cardbus" / How do I tell whether I have cardbus?  Is this a
property of the Laptop, or the Xircom card, or both?

My card seems to be working now, but the "hot swap" doesn't work.
That is, to get the card recognized I need to do a 
"/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart".

> you can find out which tty your modem is on by:
> 
> heyzeus(larry)$ cat /var/run/stab 

Thanks for that!  It's a great tip!!!  How did you find out about that?

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-26 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 11:49:43PM +, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
> get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.
> 
> I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> to recognise that anything has changed.
> 
> But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause
> the card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When
> I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it
> was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even
> when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.
> 
> Does anyone know what's wrong?

The pcmcia utils - I had no luck with the 3.0.14 - Instead i debianized
the 3.1 pcmcia utils and those worked flawlessly ...

Currently running Toshiba Tecra 8000 and an IBM Thinkpad 390 with
the Cardbus Realport 10/100 + Modem without any problems ...

I worked around the 3.0.14 pcmcia utils bugs by using the 
cardctl utility and suspending and resuming the cards. Afterwards
they were detected ok ...

Flo
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Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-26 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 11:49:43PM +, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
> get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.
> 
> I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> to recognise that anything has changed.
> 
> But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause
> the card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When
> I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it
> was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even
> when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.
> 
> Does anyone know what's wrong?

The pcmcia utils - I had no luck with the 3.0.14 - Instead i debianized
the 3.1 pcmcia utils and those worked flawlessly ...

Currently running Toshiba Tecra 8000 and an IBM Thinkpad 390 with
the Cardbus Realport 10/100 + Modem without any problems ...

I worked around the 3.0.14 pcmcia utils bugs by using the 
cardctl utility and suspending and resuming the cards. Afterwards
they were detected ok ...

Flo
-- 
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  ...  The failure can be random; however, when it does occur, it is
  catastrophic and is repeatable  ... Cisco Field Notice


Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-26 Thread Adam Shand

> I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
> get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.

they are great :)

> I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> to recognise that anything has changed.

i haven't used mine under the 2.0 kernels (only 2.2) but i believe that they
are still supported just fine.  a couple things to be aware of though:

 * if you're pcmcia slots are cardbus you need a fairly recent (more recent
   then is in slink/stabe i believe) pcmcia-cs package in order to be able
   to use it.  either upgrade to potato/unstable or compile you own (but
   make sure it's a current version).

 * some of the realports are cardbus cards and some are just pcmcia cards.
   my pcmcia one works great, but my friends cardbus one doesn't.  he "used
   the source" to get his working but i don't know if they are officially 
   supported yet or not.  if yours is a cardbus make sure you have the most
   recent version and check the supported cards list.

> But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause the
> card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When I use
> pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it was
> because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even when I
> change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.

you can find out which tty your modem is on by:

heyzeus(larry)$ cat /var/run/stab 
Socket 0: empty
Socket 1: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem
1   network xirc2ps_cs  0   eth0
1   serial  serial_cs   0   ttyS3   4   67

> Curious.  Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3

i would think so.  remember that you can exclude certain irq's from being
assinged by the pcmcia drivers by putting lines into /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
like this:

exclude irq 4

hope that helps,

adam.



Re: Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-26 Thread Adam Shand

> I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
> get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.

they are great :)

> I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
> package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
> when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
> to recognise that anything has changed.

i haven't used mine under the 2.0 kernels (only 2.2) but i believe that they
are still supported just fine.  a couple things to be aware of though:

 * if you're pcmcia slots are cardbus you need a fairly recent (more recent
   then is in slink/stabe i believe) pcmcia-cs package in order to be able
   to use it.  either upgrade to potato/unstable or compile you own (but
   make sure it's a current version).

 * some of the realports are cardbus cards and some are just pcmcia cards.
   my pcmcia one works great, but my friends cardbus one doesn't.  he "used
   the source" to get his working but i don't know if they are officially 
   supported yet or not.  if yours is a cardbus make sure you have the most
   recent version and check the supported cards list.

> But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause the
> card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When I use
> pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it was
> because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even when I
> change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.

you can find out which tty your modem is on by:

heyzeus(larry)$ cat /var/run/stab 
Socket 0: empty
Socket 1: Xircom CEM56 Ethernet/Modem
1   network xirc2ps_cs  0   eth0
1   serial  serial_cs   0   ttyS3   4   67

> Curious.  Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3

i would think so.  remember that you can exclude certain irq's from being
assinged by the pcmcia drivers by putting lines into /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
like this:

exclude irq 4

hope that helps,

adam.


Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-25 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi,

I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.

I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
to recognise that anything has changed.

But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause
the card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When
I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it
was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even
when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.

Does anyone know what's wrong?

Here's some info:

Now here's something interesting.  I just went to look at my
/proc/interrupts file and it has changed since I last looked at it!
Previously it was showing IRQ4 as being used for serial, now it has
gone and we have:

 0:   14170060   timer
 1:   7121   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 5:  9   xirc2ps_cs
 7:310   plip1
13:  1   math error
14:  21856 + ide0
15:  0 + ide1

Curious.  Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3

Anyone know?

Thanks,

Mark.



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Xircom RealPort modem(/eth) not working

1999-09-25 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi,

I've recently installed Debian on a Toshiba Tecra 8000.  I'm trying to
get a Xircom RealPort Ethernet + Modem card working.

I've compiled my own kernel (2.0.36) along with my own pcmcia modules
package.  I notice that "hot swap" doesn't seem to work.  That is,
when I push the card in or take the card out, the kernel doesn't seem
to recognise that anything has changed.

But fortunately running "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" seems to cause
the card to be recognised.  I then have tried to use the modem.  When
I use pon, plog waits for expect (OK) but never gets it!  I thought it
was because maybe /dev/ttyS0 was the wrong serial port, but no, even
when I change it to /dev/ttyS1 it doesn't work.

Does anyone know what's wrong?

Here's some info:

Now here's something interesting.  I just went to look at my
/proc/interrupts file and it has changed since I last looked at it!
Previously it was showing IRQ4 as being used for serial, now it has
gone and we have:

 0:   14170060   timer
 1:   7121   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 5:  9   xirc2ps_cs
 7:310   plip1
13:  1   math error
14:  21856 + ide0
15:  0 + ide1

Curious.  Perhaps I should be using /dev/ttyS3

Anyone know?

Thanks,

Mark.



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