screen size
Hi guys, I guess this is an FAQ, but here I go anyway. After several tries, I have successfully installed debian on my toshiba setellite laptop. I decided to follow Frans advice and installed 'Sarge'. The problem I have is that it is not using the whole screen. I mean, the screen displayed is too small and I have a black frame around the screen. How can I make it use the whole screen? TIA, -Marvin
screen size
Hi guys, I guess this is an FAQ, but here I go anyway. After several tries, I have successfully installed debian on my toshiba setellite laptop. I decided to follow Frans advice and installed 'Sarge'. The problem I have is that it is not using the whole screen. I mean, the screen displayed is too small and I have a black frame around the screen. How can I make it use the whole screen? TIA, -Marvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
Or whatever the max res the projector supports. Some don't even do 1024x768. According to Albert Dengg, > hi > > do you have the model with the 1400x1050 screen? > if so try to reduce it 1024x768, since most projectors only support > 1024x768...it happend to a friend of mine to... > here you can find config file for dual head mode with sepearate screens > so that you can spezify different resolutions (its for a sis630 with tha > same resolution internal and external, but its well documentet and you > should get the idea how to write one... > http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/XF86Config-4.dual > > I hope it is at least of some help > > yours > Albert > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:02:13 +0200 > Martin Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sorry that I did not specify my model etc. > > > > well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know > > the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. > > any more infos needed? > > > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > > > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is > > > displayed on > > the wall. > > > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > > > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
Or whatever the max res the projector supports. Some don't even do 1024x768. According to Albert Dengg, > hi > > do you have the model with the 1400x1050 screen? > if so try to reduce it 1024x768, since most projectors only support > 1024x768...it happend to a friend of mine to... > here you can find config file for dual head mode with sepearate screens > so that you can spezify different resolutions (its for a sis630 with tha > same resolution internal and external, but its well documentet and you > should get the idea how to write one... > http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/XF86Config-4.dual > > I hope it is at least of some help > > yours > Albert > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:02:13 +0200 > Martin Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sorry that I did not specify my model etc. > > > > well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know > > the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. > > any more infos needed? > > > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > > > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is > > > displayed on > > the wall. > > > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > > > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
hi do you have the model with the 1400x1050 screen? if so try to reduce it 1024x768, since most projectors only support 1024x768...it happend to a friend of mine to... here you can find config file for dual head mode with sepearate screens so that you can spezify different resolutions (its for a sis630 with tha same resolution internal and external, but its well documentet and you should get the idea how to write one... http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/XF86Config-4.dual I hope it is at least of some help yours Albert On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:02:13 +0200 Martin Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry that I did not specify my model etc. > > well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know > the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. > any more infos needed? > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is > > displayed on > the wall. > > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
sorry that I did not specify my model etc. well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. any more infos needed? On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is displayed on the wall. > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size?
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
hi do you have the model with the 1400x1050 screen? if so try to reduce it 1024x768, since most projectors only support 1024x768...it happend to a friend of mine to... here you can find config file for dual head mode with sepearate screens so that you can spezify different resolutions (its for a sis630 with tha same resolution internal and external, but its well documentet and you should get the idea how to write one... http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/XF86Config-4.dual I hope it is at least of some help yours Albert On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:02:13 +0200 Martin Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry that I did not specify my model etc. > > well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know > the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. > any more infos needed? > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is > > displayed on > the wall. > > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: screen size and projector - more infos
sorry that I did not specify my model etc. well I am using a T40 IBM, 14" and various projectors (->uni) - I know the Fn-F7 function which starts displaying the screen via a projector. any more infos needed? On Thursday 16 October 2003 17:44, Martin Wegmann wrote: > when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is displayed on the wall. > It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? > How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
screen size and projector
Hello, when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is displayed. It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? thanks in advance, cheers Martin
screen size and projector
Hello, when using a beamer/projector only a small part of my screen is displayed. It is due to my screen resolution or due to something else? How do I change the displayed (via projector) screen size? thanks in advance, cheers Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
hello... please stick to the list. * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 09:45 +0200]: > > Thanks a stack. I have never run into this prob before but your suggestion > works like a dream. > Is there a setting like that for X-Windows as well? first, try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and step through the configuration. if that does not help: well, i do not have experience in fiddling with modelines, but you might try to edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to extend the entry Modes for your DefaultDepth in subsection Display of the section Screen to include 1400x1050: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "sis" Monitor "LCD" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1400x1050" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection if you have good luck it, it works. if your display starts showing visual noise, shut down X (ctrl-alt-bksp) as fast as possible, this could be dangerous. :) > * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum > resolution > > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks > the > > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but > Debian > > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a > bit > > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > > bottom. > > if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the > parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer > resolution of 1024x768 on the console. cheers, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgpS9Bqasnzd8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
hello... please stick to the list. * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 09:45 +0200]: > > Thanks a stack. I have never run into this prob before but your suggestion > works like a dream. > Is there a setting like that for X-Windows as well? first, try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and step through the configuration. if that does not help: well, i do not have experience in fiddling with modelines, but you might try to edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to extend the entry Modes for your DefaultDepth in subsection Display of the section Screen to include 1400x1050: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "sis" Monitor "LCD" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1400x1050" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection if you have good luck it, it works. if your display starts showing visual noise, shut down X (ctrl-alt-bksp) as fast as possible, this could be dangerous. :) > * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum > resolution > > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks > the > > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but > Debian > > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a > bit > > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > > bottom. > > if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the > parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer > resolution of 1024x768 on the console. cheers, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:50:42PM +0200, Sebastian Henschel wrote: > > * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution > > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the > > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian > > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit > > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > > bottom. > > if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the > parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer > resolution of 1024x768 on the console. > I use vga=828 for the framebuffer settings on my 1400x1050 Thinkpad T21. -- Frank Scott Sutton,London
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:50:42PM +0200, Sebastian Henschel wrote: > > * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution > > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the > > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian > > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit > > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > > bottom. > > if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the > parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer > resolution of 1024x768 on the console. > I use vga=828 for the framebuffer settings on my 1400x1050 Thinkpad T21. -- Frank Scott Sutton,London -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
hello arnold.. * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > bottom. if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer resolution of 1024x768 on the console. hth, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgpMwPurRVpgu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Non-standard laptop screen size
Hi I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the bottom. Has anyone come accross this problem before and if you have did you find a solution. I have also tried to connect the machine to a external monitor with the sam result. Any help is appreciated. Arnold de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-standard laptop screen size
hello arnold.. * Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 14:46 +0200]: > > I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution > it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the > "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried > to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the > resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading > and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always > dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian > doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit > tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the > bottom. if you use the debian default kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 you can pass the parameter "vga=791" at the boot prompt of lilo to activate a framebuffer resolution of 1024x768 on the console. hth, sebastian -- ::: sebastian henschel ::: kodeaffe ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Non-standard laptop screen size
Hi I have a Clevo 630 laptop with a SIS 650 VGA chipset. The maximum resolution it can run is 1400 X 1050. As far as I know this is not one of the "standard" resolutions with the height being the odd one out. I have tried to install debian 3 on it but I have this problem. It seems Linux picks the resolution up of the screen based on the width and when it starts loading and also when it runs in text mode, the bottom third of the text is always dropped off the bottom of the screen. I though of loading X on it but Debian doesn't have drivers for the SIS 650 as a standard and I am finding it a bit tricky guessing what paramator it is asking for when the text is off the bottom. Has anyone come accross this problem before and if you have did you find a solution. I have also tried to connect the machine to a external monitor with the sam result. Any help is appreciated. Arnold de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REPOST: Laptop Screen Size Problems (cont...)
> hi > > I've installed xfree ver 3.3.6-6, still having problems though (original > posting @ bottom of this e-mail). Have included the output from running > 'startx' (thorough "startx &> startxout"). > > I would be very grateful for any assistance ... > > -- > XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System > Configured drivers: > SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1): > ... > ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_savage, s3_virge, AP6422, AT24, > AT3D, s3_svga, ... Here are your possible S3 chip supports within the SVGA server. > (--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Unknown chipset (0x8c12) rev 17, Memory @ 0xf000 > (--) SVGA: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8c12 rev. 11 It spots S3 but doesn't know what kind. > (--) SVGA: chipset: generic Sadly, it picks "generic" (its standard fallback) instead of "s3_svga" the best human guess. But, from your docs for the video card, you should be able to make a much better guess than it, and force the Devices section to contain chipset "s3_svga" ...or whichever. That is, if you insist on using the SVGA builtin instead of XF86_S3 or _S3V as applicable. Best luck! -* Heather Stern * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *-
RE: Laptop Screen Size Problems (cont...)
> hi > > I've installed xfree ver 3.3.6-6, still having problems though. Have > included the output from running 'startx' (thorough "startx &> startxout"). > > Would be grateful for any assistance ... > > XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) > Release Date: January 8 2000 > (--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Unknown chipset (0x8c12) rev 17, Memory @ 0xf000 > (--) SVGA: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8c12 rev. 11 ^^ <--- seems like you have a problem here... > (--) SVGA: chipset: generic ^ <--- this is the server's solution to the previous problem > (**) SVGA: clocks: 25.18 > (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 > (--) SVGA: Using builtin driver modes > (--) SVGA: Builtin Mode: 320x200 > (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 320x204 And these lines are the consequences of the server's solution. > My manual puts sync rates @: Hrz (48.3, 60.0, 68.7) & Vrz (60, 75) ... I'm > only getting a 640x480 res (which sits in a small centred section of the > laptop's screen). Once you'll get XFree86 to recognize your chipset, you won't need (presumably) to worry about these. I suggest you to try XF86_S3V, as it *might* have more support for your card than XF86_SVGA. If it has not, then your only solution is to boot with framebuffer graphics (if your card is VESA 2.0 compliant), and use the XF86_FBDev server. While this leads to unaccelerated graphics, there is a Linux HOWTO which explains how to do it, AFAIK. Anyway, you should drop a mail to the XFree86 developers and mail them this log file, explaining them what graphics hardware you have, and wait for their reply, perhaps they will tell you that it's not a problem and you just have to add whatever configuration line in whatever file I do not know of, either. Goog luck though, raph
REPOST: Laptop Screen Size Problems (cont...)
needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 85.09 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/: unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ 75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Ty pe1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/ X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" (--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Unknown chipset (0x8c12) rev 17, Memory @ 0xf000 (--) SVGA: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8c12 rev. 11 (--) SVGA: chipset: generic (**) SVGA: videoram: 8192k (**) SVGA: clocks: 25.18 (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 (--) SVGA: Using builtin driver modes (--) SVGA: Builtin Mode: 320x200 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 320x204 (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm -m us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" keymap/xfree86 compiled/xfree86.xkm' xinit: connection to X server lost. waiting for X server to shut down My manual puts sync rates @: Hrz (48.3, 60.0, 68.7) & Vrz (60, 75) ... I'm only getting a 640x480 res (which sits in a small centred section of the laptop's screen). thanks Andrew Original Mailing - hi ... yeah I was trying to keep the initial installation as simple as possible as I hadn't installed Debian on a laptop previously (eg. running XF86_SVGA server etc.). Machine video specs follow: 8 MB Video RAM Max Res: SVGA - 1280 * 1024, Char. Matrix 8x16, Freq. Ver: 60Hz, Horiz: 48.3/60.0/68.7 wld like to run it @ supported mode -> 1024x768; Freq. Ver: 60/75Hz, Horiz: 48.3/60.0/68.7 ... is an S3 chipset (Adapter= S3_Inc. Savage /IX w?MV - according to Win98 display properties). thanks Andrew -Original Message- From: Bret Comstock Waldow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:59 PM To: SMITH Paul Cc: Debian-Laptop (E-mail); Andrew McRobert Subject: Re: laptop screen size problem Hello, Explanations and answers are interspersed below: SMITH Paul wrote: > If you select the full resolution of the LCD, it may use the full screen. I > think this is a Toshiba problem. No, this is not a Toshiba problem. The pixels (dots) on the laptop are physical little cells, each with it's own transistors to make it work. The pixels don't get bigger or smaller when you switch to a higher or lower resolution -- just more or less are activated by the display adapter in the computer. That's why the picture becomes larger or smaller. On a CRT monitor (like most desktops), the circuitry adjusts it's scan size to fill the physical screen, regardless of the resolution, so the picture fills the screen... please see below for an explanation of the real problem here... > I've recently installed debian on a laptop here @ work (Toshiba Sat Pro. > 4260) & configured X-Windows. I'm having problems though with the size of > the screen running linux. > > As with most laptops, the original start up screen (say for Win98) runs in a > small centred section of the screen (say 1/3 of the size of the 14" screen, > centred). Win98 then expands into the whole of the screen when its login > page is displayed. This is because Win98 is going to a resolution which fills the screen, likely 1024x768. > However, linux, whether running the CLI or X-Win only displays in this > small, centred, section of the screen. I've tried a number of things to fix > this but haven't had any luck ... any help wld be greatly appreciated. > > My config file follows: > > # File generated by xf86config. [much snipping here...] You don't say what video chip your system has, for now I'll assume it's using the XF86_SVGA server. Look at the lines labelled 'Modes' in the sections below. With the exception of the "The 16-color VGA server" and "The Mono server" sections, all the modes are 640x400 or 640x480. You aren't using either of them -- they
RE: Laptop Screen Size Problems (cont...)
hi I've installed xfree ver 3.3.6-6, still having problems though. Have included the output from running 'startx' (thorough "startx &> startxout"). Would be grateful for any assistance ... XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: January 8 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.14 i586 [ELF] Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1): NV1, STG2000, RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, RIVA ULTRA TNT2, RIVA VANTA, RIVA ULTRA VANTA, RIVA INTEGRATED, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, r128, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620, sis300, sis630, sis540, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, cyber9525, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, cyber9397dvd, blade3d, cyberblade, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, mgag400, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_savage, s3_virge, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160, NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200, ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2100, V2200, p9100, spc8110, i740, i740_pci, i810, i810-dc100, i810e, Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, smi, generic (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/ttyS0, baudrate: 1200 (**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "asdf" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "asdf" (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs vert refresh rate of 86.96 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs vert refresh rate of 85.08 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq
RE: laptop screen size problem
Okay, the fact is, your chipset seems not to be probed/detected/handled properly. Perhaps you could send us a report of the XFree86 startup, that you can make by X -probeonly >xf-log and then send us the xf-log. This would enlighten the bpp problem, and probably the "not supported by this chipset" (is it recognized at all, afterall ?) Best regards raph On Mon, 8 May 2000, Andrew McRobert wrote: > thanks for your help on this. I've installed X 3.3.6 and configured it with > your XF86Config file. I've also tried setting horizsync to 30-70 & 30-40. > > I can get X to run in the small res (640x480) @ 8 bpp (by typing > startx -- -bpp 8) but on any other bpp (inc the default of 16), it won't > run. THe last couple of error messages are: > > SVGA: 16bpp not supported for this chipset > > ** A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved. *** > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > any ideas? tks > > Andrew > > > -Original Message- > From: Elrond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 2:45 AM > To: Andrew McRobert > Cc: Debian-Laptop > Subject: RE: laptop screen size problem > > > > Hi, > Have a look at the attached XF86Config. Read the comments, and try > it once you got XF86 3.3.6 (no proper Savage support before). Be very > careful with HorizSync and VertRefresh in your Monitor section. > > If the first try gives you a garbled screen (or blinking, or > such), first of all try reducing HorizSync to reasonable settings > (30-40). Next, you may try to remove ModeLines which you know not to work > with your board. > > Also, I did not put your "1024x768i" mode in the modes list which is > to be used by the server. Add it if the standard "1024x768" values do > not work. > > Best regards, > raph > > -- > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > Version: 3.1 > GCS/TW/MU d(+) s:- a-- C++ UL++>+$ P+ L+++>+ E- W N o? K? (!)w-- O? M V? > PS+ !PE Y PGP+ t? 5? X++@ R? !tv b+++ DI? D+ G++ e h r(-)% y+ > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: laptop screen size problem
thanks for your help on this. I've installed X 3.3.6 and configured it with your XF86Config file. I've also tried setting horizsync to 30-70 & 30-40. I can get X to run in the small res (640x480) @ 8 bpp (by typing startx -- -bpp 8) but on any other bpp (inc the default of 16), it won't run. THe last couple of error messages are: SVGA: 16bpp not supported for this chipset ** A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved. *** Fatal server error: no screens found any ideas? tks Andrew -Original Message- From: Elrond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 2:45 AM To: Andrew McRobert Cc: Debian-Laptop Subject: RE: laptop screen size problem Hi, Have a look at the attached XF86Config. Read the comments, and try it once you got XF86 3.3.6 (no proper Savage support before). Be very careful with HorizSync and VertRefresh in your Monitor section. If the first try gives you a garbled screen (or blinking, or such), first of all try reducing HorizSync to reasonable settings (30-40). Next, you may try to remove ModeLines which you know not to work with your board. Also, I did not put your "1024x768i" mode in the modes list which is to be used by the server. Add it if the standard "1024x768" values do not work. Best regards, raph -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/TW/MU d(+) s:- a-- C++ UL++>+$ P+ L+++>+ E- W N o? K? (!)w-- O? M V? PS+ !PE Y PGP+ t? 5? X++@ R? !tv b+++ DI? D+ G++ e h r(-)% y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
RE: laptop screen size problem
Hi, Have a look at the attached XF86Config. Read the comments, and try it once you got XF86 3.3.6 (no proper Savage support before). Be very careful with HorizSync and VertRefresh in your Monitor section. If the first try gives you a garbled screen (or blinking, or such), first of all try reducing HorizSync to reasonable settings (30-40). Next, you may try to remove ModeLines which you know not to work with your board. Also, I did not put your "1024x768i" mode in the modes list which is to be used by the server. Add it if the standard "1024x768" values do not work. Best regards, raph -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/TW/MU d(+) s:- a-- C++ UL++>+$ P+ L+++>+ E- W N o? K? (!)w-- O? M V? PS+ !PE Y PGP+ t? 5? X++@ R? !tv b+++ DI? D+ G++ e h r(-)% y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- # This is a generic XF86onfig file which should work with most # recent hardware configuration. Just check the Monitor and # Pointer values before use. # Also, the Identifier/Vendor/Modelname strings may not suit # your configuration, but who cares? this is just information # afterall. Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Keyboard" Protocol"Standard" AutoRepeat 500 5 XkbKeymap "xfree86(us)" # You should check if you really need the following: XkbDisable EndSection Section "Pointer" Protocol"Microsoft" Device "/dev/mouse" Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout50 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "ToshibaLCD" VendorName "Toshiba" ModelName "LCD of TSP4260" # If the following gives too much "Mode ... needs HSync freq. of ...", # and you really need to go *that high* (70khz), change the following # line to "HorizSync 30-70". HorizSync 48.3, 60.0, 68.7 # Note about the previous HorizSync: these 3 values are *extremely* # uncommon for a SVGA screen. It's very likely that you can't even # *think* about plugging a standard external monitor to your laptop # with such a configuration. HorizSync 30-40 is the most common setting of # a multisync adapter, and the LCD of my Thinkpad likes it well. VertRefresh 50-80 # The ModeLines follow. Note that the XFree86 documentation on the # Savage boards say that "ModeLines are ignored, and only the settings # supported by the BIOS will work". But we shall define them anyway, # it doesn't hurt. # This is the mode you've been (manually ?) adding ModeLine "1024x768i" 68.7 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # These are standard xf86 modes Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 Modeline "1024x768"44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace Modeline "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 ModeLine "640x480"31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync Modeline "640x400" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync ModeLine "1152x864"651152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1024x768"651024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync Modeline "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync Modeline "800x600"60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1024x768"751024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync Modeline "1280x1024" 801280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace Modeline "800x600"69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1024x768"851024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 Modeline "1152x864" 921152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895 Modeline "1280x1024" 1101280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908 Modeline "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1152x864" 1351152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 90
Re: laptop screen size problem
Andrew McRobert wrote: > ... yeah I was trying to keep the initial installation as simple as possible > as I hadn't installed Debian on a laptop previously (eg. running XF86_SVGA > server etc.). Machine video specs follow: > > 8 MB Video RAM > Max Res: SVGA - 1280 * 1024, Char. Matrix 8x16, Freq. Ver: 60Hz, Horiz: > 48.3/60.0/68.7 > wld like to run it @ supported mode -> 1024x768; Freq. Ver: 60/75Hz, Horiz: > 48.3/60.0/68.7 > ... is an S3 chipset (Adapter= S3_Inc. Savage /IX w?MV - according to Win98 > display properties). hmmm What configuration tool do you have, and what version of XFree do you have? I have an S3 Virge/MX chipset in my Toshiba. It's fine with XFree 3.3.6. According to the side of my SuSE Linux box the S3 Savage3D and Savage4 are supported, but the Savage is not. (But look below...XFree86.org says the Savage/IX-MV is suported in 3.3.6.) Here's part of a page from the XFree site (http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/Status27.html#27): 3.3.6: - Support (accelerated) for the S3 911, 924, 801, 805, 928, 864, 868, 964, 968, Trio32, Trio64, Trio64V+, Trio64UV+, Aurora64V+, Trio64V2, PLATO/PX is provided by the XF86_S3 server and the XF86_SVGA server with the s3_svga driver. Support (accelerated) for the ViRGE, ViRGE/VX, ViRGE/DX, ViRGE/GX, ViRGE/GX2, ViRGE/MX, ViRGE/MX+ is provided by the XF86_S3V server. Support (accelerated) for those ViRGE chips, as well as the Trio3D and Trio3D/2X is provided by the XF86_SVGA server with the s3v driver. Support (accelerated) for the Savage3D, Savage3D/MV, Savage4, Savage2000, Savage/MX-MV, Savage/MX, Savage/IX-MV and Savage/IX is provided by the XF86_SVGA server with the s3_savage driver (CHECK: is this support Linux-only?). 4.0: Support (accelerated) for the ViRGE, ViRGE/VX, ViRGE/DX, ViRGE/GX, ViRGE/GX2, ViRGE/MX, ViRGE/MX+, Trio3D and Trio3D/2X is provided by the "s3virge" driver. Support for the other S3 chipsets has not yet been ported. Summary: Only the ViRGE and Trio3D chipsets are supported in 4.0. All of the other chipsets are only supported in 3.3.6. -
RE: laptop screen size problem
thanks, I had checked it out before ... it's a bit light on detail Andrew -Original Message- From: Matteo Semplice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 5:12 PM To: Andrew McRobert Subject: Re: laptop screen size problem Hi there. I cannot be of help myself, since I have a much older Toshiba... but I am writing you to suggest 1) checking the Toshiba website (http://www.tce.co.jp/linux): They do not support Linux yet, but give some installation info and technical details for some models. 2) subscribing to the Toshiba-LinuxUsers mailing list (details on the same web page). There are lots of Toshiba experts out there ready to help. matteo - Matteo Semplice Wadham College Oxford OX1 3PN U.K.
RE: laptop screen size problem
hi ... yeah I was trying to keep the initial installation as simple as possible as I hadn't installed Debian on a laptop previously (eg. running XF86_SVGA server etc.). Machine video specs follow: 8 MB Video RAM Max Res: SVGA - 1280 * 1024, Char. Matrix 8x16, Freq. Ver: 60Hz, Horiz: 48.3/60.0/68.7 wld like to run it @ supported mode -> 1024x768; Freq. Ver: 60/75Hz, Horiz: 48.3/60.0/68.7 ... is an S3 chipset (Adapter= S3_Inc. Savage /IX w?MV - according to Win98 display properties). thanks Andrew -Original Message- From: Bret Comstock Waldow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:59 PM To: SMITH Paul Cc: Debian-Laptop (E-mail); Andrew McRobert Subject: Re: laptop screen size problem Hello, Explanations and answers are interspersed below: SMITH Paul wrote: > If you select the full resolution of the LCD, it may use the full screen. I > think this is a Toshiba problem. No, this is not a Toshiba problem. The pixels (dots) on the laptop are physical little cells, each with it's own transistors to make it work. The pixels don't get bigger or smaller when you switch to a higher or lower resolution -- just more or less are activated by the display adapter in the computer. That's why the picture becomes larger or smaller. On a CRT monitor (like most desktops), the circuitry adjusts it's scan size to fill the physical screen, regardless of the resolution, so the picture fills the screen... please see below for an explanation of the real problem here... > I've recently installed debian on a laptop here @ work (Toshiba Sat Pro. > 4260) & configured X-Windows. I'm having problems though with the size of > the screen running linux. > > As with most laptops, the original start up screen (say for Win98) runs in a > small centred section of the screen (say 1/3 of the size of the 14" screen, > centred). Win98 then expands into the whole of the screen when its login > page is displayed. This is because Win98 is going to a resolution which fills the screen, likely 1024x768. > However, linux, whether running the CLI or X-Win only displays in this > small, centred, section of the screen. I've tried a number of things to fix > this but haven't had any luck ... any help wld be greatly appreciated. > > My config file follows: > > # File generated by xf86config. [much snipping here...] You don't say what video chip your system has, for now I'll assume it's using the XF86_SVGA server. Look at the lines labelled 'Modes' in the sections below. With the exception of the "The 16-color VGA server" and "The Mono server" sections, all the modes are 640x400 or 640x480. You aren't using either of them -- they are boilerplate sections generated by the configuration tool. That's why your system always displays a small screen -- it is being told to by the XF86Config file you are using. So, what configuration tool are you using to create your XF86Config file? What is your video chip set? What resolution is your laptop screen capable of? Tell us these things, and someone can probably help you get set up. > # ** > # Screen sections > # ** > > # The Colour SVGA server > > Section "Screen" > Driver "svga" > # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 > #Device "Generic VGA" > Device "temp" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device > Modes "640x400" > ViewPort0 0 > #Virtual1024 768 > # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The 16-color VGA server > > Section "Screen" > Driver "vga16" > Device "Generic VGA" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort0 0 > Virtual 800 600 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The Mono server > &g
Re: laptop screen size problem
Hello, Explanations and answers are interspersed below: SMITH Paul wrote: > If you select the full resolution of the LCD, it may use the full screen. I > think this is a Toshiba problem. No, this is not a Toshiba problem. The pixels (dots) on the laptop are physical little cells, each with it's own transistors to make it work. The pixels don't get bigger or smaller when you switch to a higher or lower resolution -- just more or less are activated by the display adapter in the computer. That's why the picture becomes larger or smaller. On a CRT monitor (like most desktops), the circuitry adjusts it's scan size to fill the physical screen, regardless of the resolution, so the picture fills the screen... please see below for an explanation of the real problem here... > I've recently installed debian on a laptop here @ work (Toshiba Sat Pro. > 4260) & configured X-Windows. I'm having problems though with the size of > the screen running linux. > > As with most laptops, the original start up screen (say for Win98) runs in a > small centred section of the screen (say 1/3 of the size of the 14" screen, > centred). Win98 then expands into the whole of the screen when its login > page is displayed. This is because Win98 is going to a resolution which fills the screen, likely 1024x768. > However, linux, whether running the CLI or X-Win only displays in this > small, centred, section of the screen. I've tried a number of things to fix > this but haven't had any luck ... any help wld be greatly appreciated. > > My config file follows: > > # File generated by xf86config. [much snipping here...] You don't say what video chip your system has, for now I'll assume it's using the XF86_SVGA server. Look at the lines labelled 'Modes' in the sections below. With the exception of the "The 16-color VGA server" and "The Mono server" sections, all the modes are 640x400 or 640x480. You aren't using either of them -- they are boilerplate sections generated by the configuration tool. That's why your system always displays a small screen -- it is being told to by the XF86Config file you are using. So, what configuration tool are you using to create your XF86Config file? What is your video chip set? What resolution is your laptop screen capable of? Tell us these things, and someone can probably help you get set up. > # ** > # Screen sections > # ** > > # The Colour SVGA server > > Section "Screen" > Driver "svga" > # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 > #Device "Generic VGA" > Device "temp" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device > Modes "640x400" > ViewPort0 0 > #Virtual1024 768 > # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The 16-color VGA server > > Section "Screen" > Driver "vga16" > Device "Generic VGA" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort0 0 > Virtual 800 600 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The Mono server > > Section "Screen" > Driver "vga2" > Device "Generic VGA" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort0 0 > Virtual 800 600 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) > > Section "Screen" > Driver "accel" > Device "temp" > Monitor "new" > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "640x400" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 32 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection
RE: laptop screen size problem
Andrew, I have a Sat 2520 CDS which is a passive screen I have found that if i run the graphics at a lower res like 640x480 than the 800x640 screen which the computer runs it will only display in a smaller window. Such as win98 and linux. If you select the full resolution of the LCD, it may use the full screen. I think this is a Toshiba problem. Cheers Paul -- From: Andrew McRobert To: Debian-Laptop (E-mail) Subject: laptop screen size problem Date: Friday, 5 May 2000 16:42 hi all I've recently installed debian on a laptop here @ work (Toshiba Sat Pro. 4260) & configured X-Windows. I'm having problems though with the size of the screen running linux. As with most laptops, the original start up screen (say for Win98) runs in a small centred section of the screen (say 1/3 of the size of the 14" screen, centred). Win98 then expands into the whole of the screen when its login page is displayed. However, linux, whether running the CLI or X-Win only displays in this small, centred, section of the screen. I've tried a number of things to fix this but haven't had any luck ... any help wld be greatly appreciated. My config file follows: # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be # used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported # for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown # here. #ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable # modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x # and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used # only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers. # ** # # Section "Module"
laptop screen size problem
hi all I've recently installed debian on a laptop here @ work (Toshiba Sat Pro. 4260) & configured X-Windows. I'm having problems though with the size of the screen running linux. As with most laptops, the original start up screen (say for Win98) runs in a small centred section of the screen (say 1/3 of the size of the 14" screen, centred). Win98 then expands into the whole of the screen when its login page is displayed. However, linux, whether running the CLI or X-Win only displays in this small, centred, section of the screen. I've tried a number of things to fix this but haven't had any luck ... any help wld be greatly appreciated. My config file follows: # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be # used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported # for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown # here. #ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable # modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x # and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used # only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers. # ** # # Section "Module" # # This loads the module for the Joystick driver # # Load "xf86Jstk.so" # # EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key
Re: laptop screen size
I had an old X server (3.3.2). I got the new one (3.3.6) and everytrhing works fine. Thanks for all the help everyone! Steve
Re: laptop screen size
> I have just almost successfully installed X on my laptop. My last > problem is this: > I have a 1024x768 screen, yet I can only seem to get it to come up as > 320x200. So basically there is a small window in the middle of my screen > that displays X, and the graphics are rather large (it is running at 8bpp > as opposed to 16). This is a classic symptom of using the XF86_SVGA server with an incorrect chipset value. (eg. "generic") A lot of XFCom server drivers are builtin now to the SVGA server so it isn't necessarily completely wrong, but I have found a lot of cases where the automagical configurators won't set the chipset. (the 320x200 is its support for "generic VGA" compatibility in case anyone was wondering.) So, you'll have to ask the SVGA server what chipsets it supports. XF86_SVGA -probeonly 2> dumpout ...should result in a file where you can read (1) about the server's supported names for chipsets, and (2) any other exciting errors it might have for you, so you can solve them next. btw, it's not so much the screen that you have to worry about (as long as horizsync and vertrefresh ranges are close to what yours will accept) - it's the builton video card type you need to know. This is what will hate the poor dotclock modeline. This is what needs the right server to behave itself in good colormodes. etc. > I'm really not sure where to go with this. I've tried xvidtune but that > gets a floating point exception, Well, if it *worked* vidtune would only help you tune the modes you have access to already, so it's not what you need yet. > xf86config gives me these results, and XF86Setup seems to do more damage > than good (I'm sorry that isn't very specific, but I've just fought it > four or five times in a row and I didn't right down the error message > these last two times). XF86Setup itself uses the VGA16 server. Picking through mazes of twisty little ATI chipset names (mostly alike) is a pain in the toot. > I had X running fine with redhat and suse, so I know it is possible, I'm > just not quite sure how. > > Sony vaio N505VE > neomagic card Funny, this should be easy to tag for in the configurators. Looking at my own instance of XF86_SVGA on venus, I don't see "neomagic" as one of the names, otoh... there are a -lot- of entries in the form (two or three letters) (a bunch of numbers) (maybe another letter or two) ... so maybe you also need to know exactly -which- neomagic chip. SuperProbe should be able to tell you, if you aren't afraid to have it try. > SVGA server > 1024x768 screen, should be at 16bpp It can often get even better than that, assuming you have the video RAM to pull it off. You'll still be stuck with a maximum LCD size though. > Thanks for any help in advance - if more info is needed from me please > let me know. > > Steve Hope this helps! -* Heather Stern * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *-
Re: laptop screen size
What is the output of "X -probeonly" ? What resolutions does it recognise ? Brendan Simon. stephan wrote: > Ok - the XF86Setup error is this: > _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect - Can't connect error no 111 > > I get it when it Attempts to start the X server. > hope that helps a bit more > > stephan wrote: > > > I have just almost successfully installed X on my laptop. My last > > problem is this: > > I have a 1024x768 screen, yet I can only seem to get it to come up as > > 320x200. > > So basically there is a small window in the middle of my screen that > > displays X, > > and the graphics are rather large (it is running at 8bpp as opposed to > > 16). I'm really > > not sure where to go with this. I've tried xvidtune but that gets a > > floating point exception, > > xf86config gives me these results, and XF86Setup seems to do more damage > > than good > > (I'm sorry that isn't very specific, but I've just fought it four or > > five times in a row and I > > didn't right down the error message these last two times). I had X > > running fine with redhat > > and suse, so I know it is possible, I'm just not quite sure how. > > > > Sony vaio N505VE > > neomagic card > > SVGA server > > 1024x768 screen, should be at 16bpp > > > > Thanks for any help in advance - if more info is needed from me please > > let me know. > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop screen size
stephan wrote: > I have just almost successfully installed X on my laptop. My last > problem is this: > I have a 1024x768 screen, yet I can only seem to get it to come up as > 320x200. > So basically there is a small window in the middle of my screen that > displays X, > and the graphics are rather large (it is running at 8bpp as opposed to > 16). I'm really > not sure where to go with this. I've tried xvidtune but that gets a > floating point exception, > xf86config gives me these results, and XF86Setup seems to do more damage > than good > (I'm sorry that isn't very specific, but I've just fought it four or > five times in a row and I > didn't right down the error message these last two times). I had X > running fine with redhat > and suse, so I know it is possible, I'm just not quite sure how. > > Sony vaio N505VE > neomagic card > SVGA server > 1024x768 screen, should be at 16bpp ctrl-alt- swaps between the resolutions you have defined. I'm not sure how you press the + sign on a numeric keypad using a notebook. You can try editing you /etc/X11/XF86Config file so that only the 1024x768 modes used. ie. comment out the orginal Modes line #Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" Modes "1024x768" You could try changing the order if you wish to use the other modes. Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" There is also a default mode setting I think. Or was that a default depth setting ? Check the manual pages with "man XF86Config". Brendan Simon.
Re: laptop screen size
Ok - the XF86Setup error is this: _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect - Can't connect error no 111 I get it when it Attempts to start the X server. hope that helps a bit more stephan wrote: > I have just almost successfully installed X on my laptop. My last > problem is this: > I have a 1024x768 screen, yet I can only seem to get it to come up as > 320x200. > So basically there is a small window in the middle of my screen that > displays X, > and the graphics are rather large (it is running at 8bpp as opposed to > 16). I'm really > not sure where to go with this. I've tried xvidtune but that gets a > floating point exception, > xf86config gives me these results, and XF86Setup seems to do more damage > than good > (I'm sorry that isn't very specific, but I've just fought it four or > five times in a row and I > didn't right down the error message these last two times). I had X > running fine with redhat > and suse, so I know it is possible, I'm just not quite sure how. > > Sony vaio N505VE > neomagic card > SVGA server > 1024x768 screen, should be at 16bpp > > Thanks for any help in advance - if more info is needed from me please > let me know. > > Steve > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
laptop screen size
I have just almost successfully installed X on my laptop. My last problem is this: I have a 1024x768 screen, yet I can only seem to get it to come up as 320x200. So basically there is a small window in the middle of my screen that displays X, and the graphics are rather large (it is running at 8bpp as opposed to 16). I'm really not sure where to go with this. I've tried xvidtune but that gets a floating point exception, xf86config gives me these results, and XF86Setup seems to do more damage than good (I'm sorry that isn't very specific, but I've just fought it four or five times in a row and I didn't right down the error message these last two times). I had X running fine with redhat and suse, so I know it is possible, I'm just not quite sure how. Sony vaio N505VE neomagic card SVGA server 1024x768 screen, should be at 16bpp Thanks for any help in advance - if more info is needed from me please let me know. Steve
